Aztez (Allies) vs Erstad (Japan)

[Rob Brennan UK]

OOH ! His adjusted defence just dropped dramatically. i wonder if 1 or more units is low on supply ?

OUCH on the japanese CV's .. 2 day turns are hard enough so i can only imagine the issues with 3 day turns [;)]

[aztez]

Turn received or at least an combat report of it.
 
Well, to put it short I pretty much kicked the Imperial navy's butt at Wake Island. He tried to move the KB and some elements of the BB forces there and my CV pilots made short work of them.
 
I did offer Dave a redo of turn. There is no bugs involved though but I kind of felt sorry for him losing his main naval assets. He will sleep over it and we shall see what he thinks.
 
3 day turns are easy to deal with. If you make an mistake than it will multiply x 3 times.
 
I wohn't post any combat reports of the developments yet until we know whether to redo turn or not.

[aztez]

Here is the summary combat from previous turn around Wake Island. Remember I did offer Dave an redo if he wanted. No bugs or anything but I felt it was a gentlemans thing to do.
 
To be honest though I'am way behind any allied schedule on this one. I cannot go atoll hopping in South since I cannot support those kind of offensives. I'am aiming for more direct route towards Japan via Wake --> ... and via Aleutians.
 
Last turn action would help me to get something going IF we will not do an redo. It wohn't be a complete redo since I did already loose +60 tranport ships in Wake and also have suffered from huge distrubtions. Also Dave could have wihtrawn his navy but chose not to.
 
Enough of this. This is how the things went.
 
 
First allied CV pilots found an enemy surface combat TF near Wake Island...
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 82,64
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 17
F6F Hellcat x 103
Hellcat II x 26
Corsair IV x 6
SB2C Helldiver x 97
Barracuda x 52
TBF Avenger x 9
TBM Avenger x 130
Avenger II x 13
 
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 4 damaged
Barracuda: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
CA Furutaka, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Yubari, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Kitakami, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Kumano, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Makinami
 
...than came the disorganized enemy waves which were easily wiped out!
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 83,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 8
B5N Kate x 18
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 45
F6F Hellcat x 290
Hellcat II x 51
Corsair IV x 12
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 8 destroyed
B5N Kate: 13 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,64
 
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 19
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 45
F6F Hellcat x 290
Hellcat II x 51
Corsair IV x 12
 
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 19 destroyed
 
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 5
B5N Kate x 18
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 45
F6F Hellcat x 290
Hellcat II x 51
Corsair IV x 12
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
B5N Kate: 18 destroyed
 
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
A6M3 Zero x 6
A6M5 Zeke x 21
D3A Val x 58
D4Y Judy x 38
A6M3a Zero x 55
B5N Kate x 54
B6N Jill x 28
E7K2 Alf x 9
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 45
F6F Hellcat x 290
Hellcat II x 51
Corsair IV x 12
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 6 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 21 destroyed
D3A Val: 47 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 33 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 55 destroyed
B5N Kate: 46 destroyed
B6N Jill: 28 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 9 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 29 destroyed, 11 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,64
 
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 26
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 22
F6F Hellcat x 128
Hellcat II x 24
Corsair IV x 6
 
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 19 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,64
 
Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 18
A6M3a Zero x 13
B5N Kate x 14
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 22
F6F Hellcat x 143
Hellcat II x 24
Corsair IV x 6
 
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 17 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 13 destroyed
B5N Kate: 14 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 11 destroyed, 3 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 83,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
A6M3 Zero x 5
A6M5 Zeke x 24
D3A Val x 14
D4Y Judy x 4
A6M3a Zero x 31
B5N Kate x 13
B6N Jill x 2
E7K2 Alf x 5
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 44
F6F Hellcat x 239
Hellcat II x 50
Corsair IV x 11
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 5 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed
D3A Val: 10 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 4 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 31 destroyed
B5N Kate: 8 destroyed
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 5 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 16 destroyed, 9 damaged
 
 
...next day allied pilots struck againt deathstar formation KB!
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 79,62
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
A6M3 Zero x 12
A6M5 Zeke x 44
A6M3a Zero x 20
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
F6F Hellcat x 103
Hellcat II x 26
Corsair IV x 6
SB2C Helldiver x 157
Barracuda x 52
TBF Avenger x 9
TBM Avenger x 158
Avenger II x 13
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 12 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 44 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 15 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 37 destroyed, 12 damaged
Hellcat II: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 9 damaged
Barracuda: 7 damaged
TBF Avenger: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Avenger II: 1 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
CV Hiyo, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Haguro, Bomb hits 2
CV Junyo, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 9,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire
CA Nachi
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 79,62
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 8
F6F Hellcat x 10
SB2C Helldiver x 17
TBM Avenger x 16
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 3 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 3,  on fire
BB Nagato,  on fire
 
 
...than Japanese airforce tried to counterstrike!
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 79,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M3a Zero x 27
G3M Nell x 11
G4M1 Betty x 11
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 47
F6F Hellcat x 266
Hellcat II x 51
Corsair IV x 13
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 23 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 21 destroyed
G3M Nell: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 79,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
A6M3 Zero x 4
A6M5 Zeke x 15
D3A Val x 19
D4Y Judy x 2
A6M3a Zero x 16
B5N Kate x 23
B6N Jill x 3
E7K2 Alf x 4
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 47
F6F Hellcat x 260
Hellcat II x 51
Corsair IV x 13
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 15 destroyed
D3A Val: 18 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 16 destroyed
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
B6N Jill: 3 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 4 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 17 destroyed, 8 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged
 
 
...the second allied strike wave of the day!
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 79,62
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 21
F6F Hellcat x 97
Hellcat II x 22
Corsair IV x 5
SB2C Helldiver x 142
Barracuda x 43
TBF Avenger x 7
TBM Avenger x 167
Avenger II x 12
 
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed, 11 damaged
Avenger II: 2 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
CVE Shinyo, Torpedo hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
CVE Kaiyo, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 15,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Aoba
CS Chiyoda
CL Noshiro
 
...next day allied continue their strikes againts enemy fleet!
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 79,62
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
F6F Hellcat x 22
SB2C Helldiver x 32
TBM Avenger x 43
 
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
CS Mizuho, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Kishinami
CS Chitose, Bomb hits 1,  heavy damage
DD Naganami, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Tamanami
CS Chiyoda
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 79,62
 
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6
F6F Hellcat x 69
Hellcat II x 18
Corsair IV x 6
SB2C Helldiver x 100
Barracuda x 52
TBF Avenger x 5
TBM Avenger x 82
Avenger II x 13
 
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Tamanami
CL Noshiro, Torpedo hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
CS Chiyoda, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Kishinami, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Yukikaze
DD Naganami, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Natsushio
 

Well it paid off when I chose to be aggressive. This was kind of an "Midway" for the enemy. Personally I would like to continue but have wait on Dave's take on things. (We will complete this PBEM eitherway)
 
The ground combat continued with no significant gains for allied side. Next turn allied troops will not shock assault. Instead they will bombard.
 
The US BB's did make an succesfull bombardment of Wake last turn.
 
The bad news from last turn was that Japanese submarine did put 2 torpedos to BB Colorado. No news what the damage is but propably will take her out of action for good while.
 
 
 

[aztez]

Here is the screenshot from the battle...

[Rob Brennan UK]

Has Japan got any combat ships left after that ? [:D]

Will certainly make your direct route a lot more easier knowing that
the japanese don't have a carrier force anymore.

Grats ! If you don't re-do it. and even if you do then KB is juat a target to be sunk later rather than a threat.

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK

Has Japan got any combat ships left after that ? [:D]

Will certainly make your direct route a lot more easier knowing that
the japanese don't have a carrier force anymore.

Grats ! If you don't re-do it. and even if you do then KB is juat a target to be sunk later rather than a threat.

Thanks! [:)] I do not have turn yet just combat replays so I cannot confirm what ships are already confirmed sunk.

However it looks like KB was reduced in numbers. Take those CV's away and Japan still has some CV strenght but.

Also we have decieded to continue forward with the game without an redo of the turn. [:)]

[aztez]

Here are two screenshots from enemy capital ships confirmed sunk...

[aztez]

....and the 2nd screenshot.

[Rob Brennan UK]

Still quite a bit of the IJN left then .. only 2 BB's sunk so far [:-][:-].. tsk tsk [:D]

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK

Still quite a bit of the IJN left then .. only 2 BB's sunk so far [:-][:-].. tsk tsk [:D]

True. Looking at the combat reports though --> at least BB Yamashiro and BB Nagato were hit hard too.

I'am actually sending my CV's after any crippled Japanese ships. Hopefully I can bag some juicy targets next turn! [;)]

[Sneer]

why jap cap was so low ?

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Sneer

why jap cap was so low ?

I really don't know. We have an houserule that most Carriers should be on 50% CAP and some can be left in LRCAP. So, basically I have no clue why his CAP was low.

Propably had to do with earlier turns assaults againts my transport fleets at Wake since Dave did loose quite few planes there than.

My CV's were fresh and every single one of them were drawn into this operation.

[Sneer]

it was huge jap error
jap cap at this moment should be 200+ and even 300+ during such operation

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Sneer

it was huge jap error
jap cap at this moment should be 200+ and even 300+ during such operation

I do agree totally. Dave did score many hits on my transports (sunk more than 60) earlier turns and should have left it with that. Instead he stayed for another turn and paid for it dearly. Had he withdrawn towards Marcus Island he still would have his KB intact.

When planning this Wake invasion I was actually 99.99% certain that he would commit KB so there was really no suprise when his CV's showed up.

[AmiralLaurent]

You lost more than 60 transports off Wake ? KB should have gone away after such slaughter but that was probably another case of 'everything is going OK until now, I will continue one more day'. And then KA-BOOM!!!

Jap CVs should definetly have left, but I admit having done such errors myself, so no hard criticism intended.

At least the KB died sinking Allied ships (even transports) it can't achieve much in 1944.

[aztez]

Yes, I did loose more 60 ships. [:(] It is not easy to provide CAP when playing on with 3 day turns. Actually quite hard to organize good an solid timetables for naval invasions. Ships do move with so diffrent speed that they might get drifted too much apart.
 
Personally, Dave is very tough opponent. He has kicked my butt big time in this one. As you said AmiralLaurent he should have withdrawn and not get too "greedy".
 
Yeah, those CV's died in an somewhat succesfull offensive operation. (Those lost transports will hurt for sometime)
 
...and Akagi, Zuikaku and co. and unaccounter! [:-] Also those monsters Yamamoto and Musashi are still somewhere lurking.

[general billy]

If he sunk LCU's on those transports, it would have been succesful. But in this case I think its a pretty bad outcome.

[aztez]

First off nice to see new readers. [:)] That will always boost to upgrade these AAR's more frequently.
 
You are right general billy I did not loose huge amount of troops with those AP's/AK's BUT what I did loose was huge amount of supplies which is causing some problems to my troops at the moment.
 
I do not have next yet due to having email problems yesterday so I cannot comment whether my CV's found more enemy targets in the area.

[Rob Brennan UK]

Supplies are easliy remedied compared to repairing a units TOE .. 60 ships though [8|].. yikes

At least you got the place which is what matters .. where are you prepping them for now . or keeping the wake prepping for mopping up the japanese ?

[Ron Saueracker]

It's totally impossible to control anything on multiple day turns as there is no mechanism in the game/interface unfortunately. [:(]