Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!!
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RE: Oh crap its for real
Yup I havent committed tomorrow one more day then I go in.
on the screenshot above you will see my fleets current postion in the bottom edge of the map they are moving west to be ready to commit in 48 hours and also cover if he turns to Tasmania.
So we need to wait and see.
Halsey is at sea fleet command of the Carriers and Somerville the battle line
on the screenshot above you will see my fleets current postion in the bottom edge of the map they are moving west to be ready to commit in 48 hours and also cover if he turns to Tasmania.
So we need to wait and see.
Halsey is at sea fleet command of the Carriers and Somerville the battle line
- castor troy
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RE: Oh crap its for real
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
The purpose in sending my cariers into battle win lose or draw is simple - kill his carrier aircraft
I would totally disagree here, Andy. Nothing "easier" to replace aircraft and highly skilled pilots for the Japanese. There are enough examples of PBEM players producing 500 frontline aircraft per month and as I´ve mentioned earlier about my Allied pilot pool drowning in 70skilled pilots of all types, the same can be more or less true for the Japanese if PzB is also spending halve an hour on pilot training every couple of turns. Losing a CV yourselve for taking out his ac isn´t a good trade IMO. Killing his ships is as ships can´t be replaced by any side. Also harder to replace aircraft for the Allied until 44.
I´ve more or less whiped out KB´s strike aircraft in my PBEM over Sydney when they ran twice a turn into 300 fighters on Cap. This was nice, some of my ships took minor to moderate damage with none sunk. His carriers came away untouched as I didn´t launch a strike. But other than to say it was nice it won´t help me. Sure, lot´s of 80 skilled pilots gone but if my opponent is doing things right he has long replaced all of them with 70 (or better) skilled pilots.
In the long run, only sinking his ships counts IMO. I´m pretty sure that Japanese PBEM players will do the same as they did in WITP, they will outproduce the Allied with their first line aircraft until long into 44 when really big numbers of replacements arrive. So killing ships is the only way to go IMO.
RE: Oh crap its for real
True strategically but he cannot replenish his aircraft while at Sea all I need to do is trash the aircraft he has on hand and his fleet is mine.
He has no base in range to transfer aircraft to his fleet
So taking his CAG's apart even for a couple of days will win the war.
Damaged aircraft almost work as well I just need his Carriers out of the fight for 72 hours and my SCTF;'s will crucify him
Andy
He has no base in range to transfer aircraft to his fleet
So taking his CAG's apart even for a couple of days will win the war.
Damaged aircraft almost work as well I just need his Carriers out of the fight for 72 hours and my SCTF;'s will crucify him
Andy
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Castor sorry if its not clear I am pretty certain I have a decisive superiority in SC power especially if I am hitting stationary TF's unloading it wil be a massacre [:D][:D]
All my carriers need to achieve is take his out of the fight until they can replensih
All my carriers need to achieve is take his out of the fight until they can replensih
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RE: Oh crap its for real
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Castor sorry if its not clear I am pretty certain I have a decisive superiority in SC power especially if I am hitting stationary TF's unloading it wil be a massacre [:D][:D]
All my carriers need to achieve is take his out of the fight until they can replensih
yeah, agreed here. If your trashing his carriers´ air arm then there´s nothing stopping you from trashing his invasion TFs with your surface fleet. My statement on the aircraft vs carriers was more generelly speaking, therefore the example from my game. Even though I was able to trash KB´s aircraft, a month later it will be nearly the same as it was before I guess as there should be either enough planes/pilots in the pool or within his land based daitais. Being at the worst place for an invasion like PzB of course leads to some trouble. Can´t really see how he could think it would be a good idea to land in the North, North East, West and then South too.
RE: Oh crap its for real
Oh I aint counting my chickens yet I have barely got a Div at two of the landing sites if he keeps going south or has brought along 12 Divs i could still be in trouble.
7 or 8 I think I can slow down long enough for my reinforcments to arrive 11 or 12 would be difficult
He is probably playing the man rather than the ball trying to get me into a panicked retreat
I havent really made a stand in this game yet and fought it out to the finish - I did it v String at Ceylon but maybe he is trying to bounce me out out of Perth/Rockhampton. (If thats his objective it will probably suceed - I have had to shorten my front in the East to strengthen the south)
Overall not sure
7 or 8 I think I can slow down long enough for my reinforcments to arrive 11 or 12 would be difficult
He is probably playing the man rather than the ball trying to get me into a panicked retreat
I havent really made a stand in this game yet and fought it out to the finish - I did it v String at Ceylon but maybe he is trying to bounce me out out of Perth/Rockhampton. (If thats his objective it will probably suceed - I have had to shorten my front in the East to strengthen the south)
Overall not sure
- khyberbill
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RE: Oh crap its for real
Win lose or draw if I remove KB as a fighting force even if its at the cost of my own carriers his transports are dead meat to my SCTF's he cannot have the edge over me in SCTF's not this far from home - he cannot have the gas to keep them moving.
I understand your logic and interesting in that it is both a strategic goal- the destruction of transports and tactical - stop/crush the invasion.
Good luck
"Its a dog eat dog world Sammy and I am wearing Milkbone underwear" -Norm.
RE: Oh crap its for real
If you are going after the KB your aim should be to kill the ships, not the a/c and pilots.
The Japs get loads of restricted training sqds to put replacements in, and you can train a pilot up to 70 exp in a specific skill in a couple of months. I have already rebuilt my KB sqds several times and they did the business in my PBEM in Nov 43.........
Having said that, if I was in your position I would go for it. Even only a couple of 1000lb bomb hits could doom a CV considering he has a long trip to the nearest decent sized port.
The Japs get loads of restricted training sqds to put replacements in, and you can train a pilot up to 70 exp in a specific skill in a couple of months. I have already rebuilt my KB sqds several times and they did the business in my PBEM in Nov 43.........
Having said that, if I was in your position I would go for it. Even only a couple of 1000lb bomb hits could doom a CV considering he has a long trip to the nearest decent sized port.
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Nope I want the aircraft if I kill his aircraft or at least neutralise them my SCTF's can harry and destroy his entire force with impunity
Birdfarms would be good dont get me wrong but emtying them of strike aircraft is my number 1 objective as it will force them to abandon the beachhead and bug out to replenish leaving my LBA and surface assets to do their work
It all comes down to he has an edge in Carrier Air but its marginal
I have an edge in in SC (I hope !!! this is all speculation but I cannot believe he has brought his battlewagons south as well)
I need to know which base he is going to hit then I can respond
The real problem is I am sitting pressing Send/Recieve every 5 minutes waiting on the turn !!!!
Birdfarms would be good dont get me wrong but emtying them of strike aircraft is my number 1 objective as it will force them to abandon the beachhead and bug out to replenish leaving my LBA and surface assets to do their work
It all comes down to he has an edge in Carrier Air but its marginal
I have an edge in in SC (I hope !!! this is all speculation but I cannot believe he has brought his battlewagons south as well)
I need to know which base he is going to hit then I can respond
The real problem is I am sitting pressing Send/Recieve every 5 minutes waiting on the turn !!!!
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There is an old adage never interrupt an enemy when they are in the process of making a mistake. Maybe I let the cat out of the bag yesterday he is taking sooo long over this next turn I am out of fingernails...
He isnt good enough to twig that he should bug out .... is he ???
Or is he good enough that despite what I have there he can take me have I got it wrong Could he have the full IJN Battleline along somehow and have them fuelled and ready plus 12 + Divs
I could actually be facing a stronger SC Force....
Arrrrgghhhh I HATE waiting !!!
I am now into re guessing whats going on for the 50th time.......I am going round in circles I need beer
He isnt good enough to twig that he should bug out .... is he ???
Or is he good enough that despite what I have there he can take me have I got it wrong Could he have the full IJN Battleline along somehow and have them fuelled and ready plus 12 + Divs
I could actually be facing a stronger SC Force....
Arrrrgghhhh I HATE waiting !!!
I am now into re guessing whats going on for the 50th time.......I am going round in circles I need beer
RE: Oh crap its for real
This couldnt be a massive bluff could it ? I pulled most of my search assets off the East Coast to up my coverage in this area he couldnt be really hitting me at Sydney and i have totally missed it ???
Did I mention I hate waiting....
Did I mention I hate waiting....
- khyberbill
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Or a sip of Bowmore!I am going round in circles I need beer
"Its a dog eat dog world Sammy and I am wearing Milkbone underwear" -Norm.
RE: Oh crap its for real
Actually I havent seen any mini KB Sqns yet either off Perth or off Adeialde could it be a double bluff and he is hitting me on the Brisbane/Sydney coast while my attention is on Adeialde
Even one Div accross my LOC at say newcastle or Bribane could cut off a full Corps in the north...
Even one Div accross my LOC at say newcastle or Bribane could cut off a full Corps in the north...
RE: Oh crap its for real
Isle of Jura 25 year old in the cupboard but its saved for a special occasion - I have a 20 year old Talisker somewhere that would go down well just now...
RE: Oh crap its for real
Andy,
With his multiple large TFs in the area your air strikes may be dispersed. If you are going after his air wing I would consider defencive stance with maxed cap for a day one encounter.
With his multiple large TFs in the area your air strikes may be dispersed. If you are going after his air wing I would consider defencive stance with maxed cap for a day one encounter.

RE: Oh crap its for real
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Arrrrgghhhh I HATE waiting !!!
Maybe this will help:

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RE: Oh crap its for real
I think the turn is with PzB - Andy is just having kittens finding out what has happened. Need I add that I am not getting turns while he (PzB) unravels what Andy has concocted... it's all about me [8|]

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- khyberbill
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RE: Oh crap its for real
I have a 20 year old Talisker somewhere that would go down well just now...
Nice, I have a 20 yr old Caol Ila waiting for retirement as well as a 16 yr old Tomintoul (in case I can't wait). Just finishing a 15 yr old Glenlivet that my sister gave me for Christmas (2008).
"Its a dog eat dog world Sammy and I am wearing Milkbone underwear" -Norm.
RE: Oh crap its for real
It looks like the whole world is holding breath.
I am not getting my turns too....
I am not playing vs Andy nor PzB...
[8|]
I am not getting my turns too....
I am not playing vs Andy nor PzB...
[8|]

RE: Oh crap its for real
[:D][:D][:D] sorry I am heading out for a few beers no sign of PZB so maybe not a turn tonight if one comes in and I am sober enough I will post it later.
Thansk for the tick tock.....
Thansk for the tick tock.....




