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Turn 101 - Axis Turn
3rd September 1941


The second anniversary of the war (although not according to Rafe McCauley).

The Axis too limited themselves to bombardments this turn and its punishing for the poor ******* defending Tobruk - none more so than the Australian 15th Battalion that simply evaporates during its 5th barrage of the turn.

The only non-Tobruk action was in the Halfaya Pass where the Italians decided to try and subdue any thoughts of counter-attack by the British. The bombardment was carried out by the Savona Division's 12th Artillery Regt, but all they got for their trouble and pain, was a rented room in Whalley Range... er sorry that was a line from a Smiths track; I meant to say, all they got for their trouble and pain was a few 75mm guns and other odds and ends decommissioned.

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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


As seen above the woe in Tobruk continues. Now that there are no distractions around Tobruk, the Axis can properly concentrate on reducing the fortress - this can be shown from the unpleasant stats below (and this doesn't even include the Australians which of course makes these stats even worse).....

Between turn 97 and turn 99 the Allies lost 33 Rifle Squads, in turn 100 it was 22 but last turn in was 63. And that is the good news...

.... the garrison is almost devoid of AA - 88 pieces at the start of turn 97 and this is now just 19, while anti-tank pieces number just 6.

To add to the fun, the 1st Polish Brigade have decided to reorganise.

Anyone got any good news?
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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


With Tobruk under such intense pressure I order the Royal Navy to sea once again. They are tasked with escorting a convoy carrying a company of the 23rd Australian Battalion to Tobruk. They will take the convoy as far as Sollum and then take up bombardment positions. The convoy will then (hopefully) carry on as far as Tobruk.

The order can only be given because every fighter squadron (except the Beaufighters) is operational.

The plan goes well initially but as before the Axis air forces intercept the task force northwest of Sidi Barrani. 55 Axis fighters escort 16 of the deadly Ju-87. However, 68 CW fighter are flying CAP and catch the enemy. The CW lose 8 fighters (1 destroyed) but the Axis lose 26 (12 destroyed, including 7 Ju-87). HMS Queen Elizabeth is lightly damaged.

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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


The task force continues on to its bombardment location, but before it reaches it, the ships come under renewed attack. 31 Italian fighters escort the 4 remaining Ju-87 - but they are again bounced by the CAP - which has been increased to 84 fighters. 4 Allied fighters are disabled, but they succeed in stopping the attack on the RN and in the process dispatch 6 fighters (2 destroyed) and the remainder of the Ju-87. Note: the Loss Report says these were disabled, while the Full Report states they were evaporated?

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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


The small Australian contingent arrives in Tobruk. It's not the reinforcements the garrison was hoping for, but as Tesco say, every little helps.

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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


With Recce still at 0% I send scouts out to try and find out what the enemy has southwest of Sollum......

Sadly work calls and I have to continue later...

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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


The task force continues on to its bombardment location, but before it reaches it, the ships come under renewed attack. 31 Italian fighters escort the 4 remaining Ju-87 - but they are again bounced by the CAP - which has been increased to 84 fighters. 4 Allied fighters are disabled, but they succeed in stopping the attack on the RN and in the process dispatch 6 fighters (2 destroyed) and the remainder of the Ju-87. Note: the Loss Report says these were disabled, while the Full Report states they were evaporated?

Evaporated means the unit took so many losses that it was disbanded and any remaining equipment was tagged as damaged and sent back to the replacement inventory.

Likely you damaged between 1 and 3 Ju-87's directly in combat (although all 4 is possible) and then TOAW decided the unit had taken too many losses, evaporated it and added the remaining aircraft to the damaged column as well.
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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


The task force continues on to its bombardment location, but before it reaches it, the ships come under renewed attack. 31 Italian fighters escort the 4 remaining Ju-87 - but they are again bounced by the CAP - which has been increased to 84 fighters. 4 Allied fighters are disabled, but they succeed in stopping the attack on the RN and in the process dispatch 6 fighters (2 destroyed) and the remainder of the Ju-87. Note: the Loss Report says these were disabled, while the Full Report states they were evaporated?

Evaporated means the unit took so many losses that it was disbanded and any remaining equipment was tagged as damaged and sent back to the replacement inventory.

Likely you damaged between 1 and 3 Ju-87's directly in combat (although all 4 is possible) and then TOAW decided the unit had taken too many losses, evaporated it and added the remaining aircraft to the damaged column as well.
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Turn 101
3rd September 1941


This game is soooo tense!

Not knowing how long a turn I'd have I decided to keep the Royal Navy at sea until my nerves could stand it no longer. I ordered bombardments out of Tobruk, off the coast east of Sollum and from the Halfaya Pass.

Given the absolute pounding being dished out to the defenders of Tobruk it was nice to be able to reciprocate, at least in part.

The only issue was that I've taken Sollum but I'm not sure the forces there are strong enough to hold the town.....(note: the attack does not show on the report below as it was taken pre-combat on Round 7).

Axis losses (I can't be certain on size but these are my educated guesses from what I can see).
Bn. of 16th Regt.
2 x Bns. of 20th Regt.
Bn. of 61st Regt.
Cpy. of Bersaglieri
Cpy. of 27th Bn.
200th Pioneer Bn.
33rd PJ Bn.
102nd AA Regt.
102nd AT Bn.
42nd GaF Art Regt.
RECAM Art Regt.

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On the subject of bombardment and the Royal Navy getting a bit of payback against the axis Airforce, your battleships should have the range to bombard the enemy air units (use airfield attack) at Sidi Azeiz if they're still there next turn; artillery of any sort against planes on the ground tends to go really badly for the flyboys.
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ORIGINAL: DanNeely

On the subject of bombardment and the Royal Navy getting a bit of payback against the axis Airforce, your battleships should have the range to bombard the enemy air units (use airfield attack) at Sidi Azeiz if they're still there next turn; artillery of any sort against planes on the ground tends to go really badly for the flyboys.
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Next turn? Maybe. I don't know how many Ju-87 the enemy has, but regardless of their number, I can't put the RN to sea without adequate air cover. This turn I had 11 fighter squadrons available (and they were close to where the likely action was) and so felt able to risk sailing a task force. Whether I can sail next turn will depend first and foremost on what state my fighter units are in.

As for the airfields, yes its a good point, and I did some airfield bombardment earlier in the game west of Tobruk (very satisfying [:)]) but at the moment I don't have battleships - I have just the one with two repairing. Well actually I have none, depending on whether I wish to sail with minor damage (and Queen Elizabeth was lightly damaged in the last attack).

So in summary, yes I need to utilise the navy - and attacking aircraft is good - but I can't afford to go all guns blazing and risk their destruction at this stage. Given the casualty numbers being seen what is certain is that Tobruk will be captured sooner rather than later - I will need these ships for the defence of the Nile Delta no doubt.....
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Turn 102 - Axis Turn
6th September 1941


Another punishing turn for the defenders of Tobruk.

....and from what I can see devoncop is bringing in more artillery!!

1. Once again one of my recce units (a company from the 4th South African Armoured Car Bn.) that couldn't disengage properly is surrounded, destroyed and the attackers then run back to their lines.

2, 4, 8, 11, 12, 14, 17 - attacks against the southwestern strongpoint. These are all artillery attacks. The Maori battalion went from 50 rifle squads to evaporated in two turns..... I also lost the Kopanski Machine Gun Battalion that I couldn't move last turn because the Polish Brigade were reorganising.....

3, 5, 9, 16 - attacks against the eastern strongpoint. The fifth attack was an air strike by 124 bombers, escorted by 253 fighters. 37 Allied fighters fly to assist the defenders and suffer 12 losses (2 destroyed), while the Axis lose 23 (7 destroyed) and the bombing attack is not pressed home. Axis persistence is rewarded better in the third attack which is carried out by 62 fighters and 19 bombers. For the loss of 18 aircraft (8 destroyed), the Axis dish out 21 losses (8 destroyed) on the Allies - although once again the bombing mission was stopped.

6. - an attack on RAF Dekheila, west of Alexandria by 21 Italian bombers. 15 of the bombers are lost (1 destroyed) and there is no damage to the airfield or the aircraft based there.

7, 10, 13 - three air strikes on RAF Buq Buq. The first wave sees 21 bombers escorted by 106 fighters attack and 23 are lost (4 destroyed) after meeting 60 fighters and 22 Blenheims (which were based there). 16 Allied aircraft are lost (4 destroyed). In the second attack 9 bombers and 36 fighters are employed, losing 10 (3 destroyed) after running up against 59 Allied fighters who lose 5 aircraft.

15 - an artillery barrage against the western strongpoint.

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Turn 102
6th September 1941


So what does that all mean for my defenders of Tobruk and the air forces?

Well its been another punishing turn and the numbers of aircraft available this turn - 8 out of 20 squadrons are available.... There will be no RN activity.

The Tobruk situation continues to deteriorate with only 73% of T+OE for the rifle squads and almost all heavy weapons destroyed.
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On the subject of bombardment and the Royal Navy getting a bit of payback against the axis Airforce, your battleships should have the range to bombard the enemy air units (use airfield attack) at Sidi Azeiz if they're still there next turn; artillery of any sort against planes on the ground tends to go really badly for the flyboys.
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Next turn? Maybe. I don't know how many Ju-87 the enemy has, but regardless of their number, I can't put the RN to sea without adequate air cover. This turn I had 11 fighter squadrons available (and they were close to where the likely action was) and so felt able to risk sailing a task force. Whether I can sail next turn will depend first and foremost on what state my fighter units are in.

As for the airfields, yes its a good point, and I did some airfield bombardment earlier in the game west of Tobruk (very satisfying [:)]) but at the moment I don't have battleships - I have just the one with two repairing. Well actually I have none, depending on whether I wish to sail with minor damage (and Queen Elizabeth was lightly damaged in the last attack).

So in summary, yes I need to utilise the navy - and attacking aircraft is good - but I can't afford to go all guns blazing and risk their destruction at this stage. Given the casualty numbers being seen what is certain is that Tobruk will be captured sooner rather than later - I will need these ships for the defence of the Nile Delta no doubt.....

Do you have any heavy cruisers? I think they've got the range as well even if your lighter ships don't - unless the enemy are using air fields even closer to shore.
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On the subject of bombardment and the Royal Navy getting a bit of payback against the axis Airforce, your battleships should have the range to bombard the enemy air units (use airfield attack) at Sidi Azeiz if they're still there next turn; artillery of any sort against planes on the ground tends to go really badly for the flyboys.
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Next turn? Maybe. I don't know how many Ju-87 the enemy has, but regardless of their number, I can't put the RN to sea without adequate air cover. This turn I had 11 fighter squadrons available (and they were close to where the likely action was) and so felt able to risk sailing a task force. Whether I can sail next turn will depend first and foremost on what state my fighter units are in.

As for the airfields, yes its a good point, and I did some airfield bombardment earlier in the game west of Tobruk (very satisfying [:)]) but at the moment I don't have battleships - I have just the one with two repairing. Well actually I have none, depending on whether I wish to sail with minor damage (and Queen Elizabeth was lightly damaged in the last attack).

So in summary, yes I need to utilise the navy - and attacking aircraft is good - but I can't afford to go all guns blazing and risk their destruction at this stage. Given the casualty numbers being seen what is certain is that Tobruk will be captured sooner rather than later - I will need these ships for the defence of the Nile Delta no doubt.....

Do you have any heavy cruisers? I think they've got the range as well even if your lighter ships don't - unless the enemy are using air fields even closer to shore.
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No, the RN only has HMS York in this game (and were a rarity in the Med for the RN) and she's been withdrawn. Given what happened to my lighter ship previously, there is no way they are going to sea alone.
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Turn 102
6th September 1941


The turn was something of a downer for the CW. Only two rounds were possible before a proficiency check was failed....

The only good news is the the HQ of the Cirene Division was destroyed west of Sollum. Sadly that is where the good news begins and ends...

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Next turn? Maybe. I don't know how many Ju-87 the enemy has, but regardless of their number, I can't put the RN to sea without adequate air cover. This turn I had 11 fighter squadrons available (and they were close to where the likely action was) and so felt able to risk sailing a task force. Whether I can sail next turn will depend first and foremost on what state my fighter units are in.

As for the airfields, yes its a good point, and I did some airfield bombardment earlier in the game west of Tobruk (very satisfying [:)]) but at the moment I don't have battleships - I have just the one with two repairing. Well actually I have none, depending on whether I wish to sail with minor damage (and Queen Elizabeth was lightly damaged in the last attack).

So in summary, yes I need to utilise the navy - and attacking aircraft is good - but I can't afford to go all guns blazing and risk their destruction at this stage. Given the casualty numbers being seen what is certain is that Tobruk will be captured sooner rather than later - I will need these ships for the defence of the Nile Delta no doubt.....

Do you have any heavy cruisers? I think they've got the range as well even if your lighter ships don't - unless the enemy are using air fields even closer to shore.
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No, the RN only has HMS York in this game (and were a rarity in the Med for the RN) and she's been withdrawn. Given what happened to my lighter ship previously, there is no way they are going to sea alone.
Um, what was that quote about '3 years to build a ship, 300 to build a tradition'? [8D]
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Do you have any heavy cruisers? I think they've got the range as well even if your lighter ships don't - unless the enemy are using air fields even closer to shore.
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No, the RN only has HMS York in this game (and were a rarity in the Med for the RN) and she's been withdrawn. Given what happened to my lighter ship previously, there is no way they are going to sea alone.
Um, what was that quote about '3 years to build a ship, 300 to build a tradition'? [8D]
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Despite all evidence to the contrary when helping the army after balls up after military balls up, the senior service were not actually a kamikaze outfit [:)].
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Turn 103 - Axis Turn
10th September 1941


Axis focus is entirely on Tobruk this turn. Eight bombardments; six against the Southwestern Graveyard and the other two directed against the Western.

Massive losses in the air are sustained by my fighters which is just so annoying. a) at least one squadron defies orders again and flies when on rest, and b) I don't want my remaining aircraft defending this area anyway but it seems I have no control over that. Unless I'm doing something wrong - and apart from pulling my aircraft back to the Delta I can't think what that may be - then this remains a frustrating aspect of the game. 37 fighters take to the air and 30 are lost (6 destroyed) including an entire Hurricane squadron. These units don't stop the bombing and only cost the Axis 21 losses (6 destroyed).

38 fighters then fly to try and stop the next attack and lose 13 (3 destroyed) - although they can't stop the bombing. At least in this instance I cause losses of 36 Axis aircraft (14 destroyed).

The remaining bombardments hurt badly and yet another Kiwi battalion evaporates.

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Turn 103
10th September 1941


Decisions, decisions....

The news from the air is not too bad, thanks to a reinforcement I can still field 20 squadrons, of which I can make 16 operational. One squadron is reorganising and three are resting, but all 5 bomber squadrons and 8 fighter squadrons are on call.

The news from Tobruk is tres tres b******s. Another infantry battalion was evaporated, leaving just 423 squads - 63% of T+OE [:(].

I can only press on and hope for the best.
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