STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - no devoncop please

[warspite1]

Turn 148
4th December 1943

The partisan position. One band of guerillas has taken Como in the north. The road into Milan from the west is controlled by the partisans and one group are operating in the western suburbs of the city itself. A third unit is approaching the southern suburbs.

On partisan band is in trouble. The unit previously attacked is now being assailed by a panzer formation near Tortana.

[warspite1]

Turn 149
5th December 1943

I'm going to need to get moving. There were 12 bombardments and while the individual % were no greater than 8% - these losses are really starting to mount up.

In the north devoncop is getting to grips with the partisan situation and dealing with the problem in the way that Germans of the period tended to do...... reasoned debate, a fair hearing and good all-round civilised behaviour is not the order of the day....

Damn, I must have badly mis-judged my second round because suddenly all rounds are finished. That leaves a Canadian Brigade in trouble.....

[warspite1]

Turn 150
6th December 1943

The Canadians survived the attack that the Germans launch. The Partisans continue to take losses while being forced back. Steady losses are maintained by German bombardment of British and US positions.

The Germans reinforce Torino, where one of my partisan units was on their way too.

There was hard fighting around Naples-Avallino and in the centre. Losses were generally worse for the Germans but tanks loses were significantly worse for the CW and field artillery for the Germans.

Central Naples falls to British units, while the Canadians make progress east of Avallino.

[DanNeely]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: DanNeely

are you sure that's actually out of supply? It's showing some equipment as damaged, not destroyed. AFAIK if OOS all losses are destroyed.

warspite1

No the question was - how is this unit in supply? It is totally surrounded by enemy units, there are no towns to draw any supply from, the unit is hemmed in by rivers with no bridges, there are no tracks - much less roads - that lead to anywhere that are not cut-off. Just seems very strange.

Based on the screenshot shown, it's only surrounded on 5 hexes. The 3 you occupy and the 2 adjacent to it. The 6th to the rear is open, and supply can be traced through non-occupied/non-ZOCed hexes, unless you have a solid wall of occupied/ZOCed hexes to block it, which doesn't appear to be the case from any of your zoomed out shots. Based on the screenshots I'd guess its probably getting 1 or 2 supply points/turn; and if over extended rules are turned on will end up in trouble and start withering away after a few turns anyway. IIRC just being overextended dumps equipment into the replacement pool vs the dead pool for out of supply.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: DanNeely

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: DanNeely

are you sure that's actually out of supply? It's showing some equipment as damaged, not destroyed. AFAIK if OOS all losses are destroyed.

warspite1

No the question was - how is this unit in supply? It is totally surrounded by enemy units, there are no towns to draw any supply from, the unit is hemmed in by rivers with no bridges, there are no tracks - much less roads - that lead to anywhere that are not cut-off. Just seems very strange.

Based on the screenshot shown, it's only surrounded on 5 hexes. The 3 you occupy and the 2 adjacent to it. The 6th to the rear is open, and supply can be traced through non-occupied/non-ZOCed hexes, unless you have a solid wall of occupied/ZOCed hexes to block it, which doesn't appear to be the case from any of your zoomed out shots. Based on the screenshots I'd guess its probably getting 1 or 2 supply points/turn; and if over extended rules are turned on will end up in trouble and start withering away after a few turns anyway. IIRC just being overextended dumps equipment into the replacement pool vs the dead pool for out of supply.

warspite1

Yeah, I just think intuitively, it seems wrong but hey ho, it is what it is.

[warspite1]

Turn 151
7th December 1943

There is evidence that the German forces are starting to thin out around Naples and to the east. Not a wholesale retreat by any means but I detect some forces heading for Rome.

But sufficient enemy forces stay to cause major casualties to my Commonwealth infantry - this is becoming a serious problem....circa 150 rifle squads lost that turn....

[warspite1]

Turn 151
7th December 1943

PARTIZAN!!

[warspite1]

Turn 151
7th December 1943

The CW forces - despite grievous losses - push on to finish the job in Naples. The 9th New Zealand Brigade force a gap to the east of the city. Unfortunately there is support only from a battalion of British infantry. Let's hope for the Kiwis sake that the main attack to the south works....

[warspite1]

Turn 151
7th December 1943

Damn, the attack was a success - but the turn ended before I had the chance to get a screenshot of progress by US forces to the north east of Naples. Like at real life D-Day, while the British are engaging the main German units, the US forces are working the angle. I'll provide detail next turn but I am happy with the progress the infantry divisions (with tank reserves from 5th Army) are making here. If the Germans contest Naples too much longer they may find themselves surrounded (subject of course to what the Germans have available in Rome and environs.....).

[warspite1]

Turn 152
8th December 1943

The German bombardments are limited to just two this turn - thank goodness.


As promised, a look at the US formations pushing on Benevento - I've managed to consolidate four infantry divisions east of the town. That perennial bug bear - supply - is a constant problem however....

[warspite1]

Turn 153
9th December 1943

An interesting turn. The southern group of partisans have taken losses and are in real danger of being wiped out.

Annoyingly another German straggler has broken free and is operating behind the lines.....

The Germans launched 6 bombardments - all against the CW - and caused reasonable casualties.

In response the CW have cleared the northern suburbs of Naples.

[larryfulkerson]

The southern group of partisans have taken losses and are in real danger of being wiped out.

It just dawns on me that Ian and I didn't have any partisans to deal with and I'm wondering if you're playing
an old version of the scenario or what. Is there a T.O. to activate them or something?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

The southern group of partisans have taken losses and are in real danger of being wiped out.

It just dawns on me that Ian and I didn't have any partisans to deal with and I'm wondering if you're playing
an old version of the scenario or what. Is there a T.O. to activate them or something?

warspite1

We're using the version that came with the game - sadly I don't have the understanding of computers to be able to muck about with mods and stuff so I am limited to what comes with the game [:(]

I wasn't really paying attention to the partisans but I certainly didn't need to employ theatre options or anything; they just turned up over time in the far north. I did notice a few times in the reinforcements schedule 'Partisans' and the word Rome - but I've never received any in Rome as far as I'm aware (and I'm sure I would have seen them get destroyed if they had).

[warspite1]

Turn 154
10th December 1943

I have the Polish Divsion - Huzzah! [:)] - They are Blue not Red - Hurrooo [:(]

[warspite1]

Turn 154
10th December 1943

This is good news. The partisans are costing the Germans increasing amounts of manpower - and some of their attacks are quite costly too....


This is attack no.1

[warspite1]

Turn 154
10th December 1943

The irritating Germans continue to get in behind my lines, interdicting road and rail comms [&:]

[warspite1]

Turn 154
10th December 1943

The start of Round 2 and the thin screen that devoncop placed north of Naples has been broken....

I am unable to surround the units to the west and they are able to retreat from two engagements. The unit north of Avallino also manages to survive.

I am able to start bringing up fighters to airfields in the Salerno area and will do the same around Naples as soon as a) the last of the Germans are evicted and b) the rail line has been repaired, maximising supply.

[warspite1]

Turn 155
11th December 1943

No damage or casualties to the CW/US forces this turn, but the partisan brigades have taken something of a hammering. If possible I will seek to withdraw into the mountains.....


Note the Full Strength nos. are for each unit, the depleted unit nos. are the total of each split unit.

[warspite1]

Turn 156
12th December 1943

The sneaky devoncop has got some serious units in behind US VI Corps. These units have gone from being an irritating pain in the wotsits to a serious problem.... German forces are also appearing west of Capua and attacked.

I need to organise my CW forces - they've all got a little spread out in the general melee and pursuit. I also have no choice now but to employ what remains of the 82nd Airborne in the front line.

[warspite1]

Turn 156
12th December 1943

Before moving any units I check the reinforcement schedule and am greeted with the unwelcome news that the 7th Armoured Division are being withdrawn - good job I checked, but I should have had a handle on this sooner.

As for the turn itself, there was a lot of movement of units into new positions - but not too much action. The focus is on clearing the ever increasingly troublesome straggler units, while not taking the mickey against the Germans. I don't know what they've got still to come, but I do not whatever it is, they will hurt if one isn't careful.