The Power of Inexperience / GreyJoy(A)-Rader(J)

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Flugtag Papua New Guinea!

[JohnDillworth]

Instead I have decided to found a "cult" I call it "Joyism" We worship all that is Greyjoy...

And the symbol of joyism is the 4EB on the ground to keep it safe?

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

Instead I have decided to found a "cult" I call it "Joyism" We worship all that is Greyjoy...

And the symbol of joyism is the 4EB on the ground to keep it safe?

ahahahah, com'on, be patient...just few days and you'll see our beloved 4Es fly in the sky

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Bullwinkle,

I re-iterate.... I didn't say, to use your phrase, that the beta change is a "yawn".

Rsponded to in the main forum.

[JohnDillworth]

ahahahah, com'on, be patient...just few days and you'll see our beloved 4Es fly in the sky

[:D]Sorry, I thought the question mark would make this seem OK. I just love cargo cults so I had to make the joke. You're fine. I kind of agree with your caution. Even if you have 650 bombers a couple of bad air battles might put you past your replacement rate. That being said, if your are not going to use your bombers here where would you use them. Anyway, I'm sure this groups knows all about cargo cults. For those that don't, it pretty fascinating stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

[GreyJoy]

No need to be sorry John! i got it and was kidding too[;)]
 
A question for you experten out there.... do you think for what concerns strat bombing the terrain and/or forts do play any difference in the overall result of the bombing?
i know they make difference in ground or airstrip bombings, but i'm not sure if they do in Strat bombing...
 
planning planning planning.... today will be slow cause Rader is pretty busy....so i'm spending lot of time in planning the next strat bombing campaign...changing leaders, changing HQs... dirty work some may call it

[JohnDillworth]

do you think for what concerns strat bombing the terrain and/or forts do play any difference in the overall result of the bombing?

Not that I am aware of. AAA is nasty to large bombers in large concentrations. The high altitude will help, but you are still going to get increased operational losses as many bombers get damaged and don't fly again. A thought. Nemo told you to hurry up before he got lots of fighters home. Too late for that. However, Raeder probably has not gotten all the AAA back from India and elsewhere. They are on the way, but you will get a AAA "discount" while that stuff is in transit

[JeffroK]

I'm not sure that forts or terrain is relevant, you need to attack the most worthwhile targets that your air force can reach and afford.

You now seem to have given rader plenty of time to get his AAA and fighters in place, isnt it about time to start using that island you captured?

[JohnDillworth]

You now seem to have given rader plenty of time to get his AAA and fighters in place

not so sure. Fighters yes, but he had plenty of AA in India and the SW pacific that GJ knows of and I bet the DEI had lots. It's close to getting home, but probably not all there yet. Also, only the really heave stuff is useful for high altitude bombers. I'm not expert on Japanese AA, but if I were in GJ position I would research the heavy AA units and find their maximum effective altitude. Some of it can't be avoided, but one can make educated choices

[GreyJoy]

Ok guys...you wanted blood and mass destruction? epic struggles and Gods' battles?

Well, you're gonna have it next turn.
 
MAEBASHI is targetted.
More than 1500 enemy fighters based in a range of 2 hexes.
We're gonna have 200 P-47s sweeping from Hakkodate, 100 P-38s on LRCAP from Hakkodate (still lvl 8 AF so i had to keep the numbers down[:(] in order to avoid air stacking limits), more 340 planes sweeping from Sapporo, 100 planes escorting from Sapporo (which is overstacked) and 600 4Es taking off from Bihoro.
 
3 HQs present (Bihoro, Sapporo and Hakkodate).
 
Targets? A/C factories at Maebashi...more than 700 fighters are produced there monthly
 
It's gonna be a hell of a battle....
 
And i'm sweating at the idea of how many pilots i'm gonna lose....[:o][:o][:o]
 
but, as you all know...i have to
 
Flak should be low... Maebashi is the only base with less than 100 guns present...
 
finger crossed....
 
I fear i'm facing for the first time the dreaded KI-83....[X(]

[GreyJoy]

...can't wait.....my legs are shaking.....
 
ready to take some 100 screenshots!

[GreyJoy]

May 17, 18 1944

mmmmmm............ results are mixed.

Our fighters did outstanding...while our 4Es scored very few hits...[:(] and, despite all my efforts, coordination remains terrible.... when they arrived well grouped they managed to remain safe...but lots of them arrived scattered...and the LRCAP was overwhelmed after few passages so most of my liberators arrived without any escort...

650 bombers in two days scored less than 50 points of damages to his factories...a howfull result if you ask me

KB popped up near Palmyra, sinking an xAKL, while another CV division is stationing near Sydney....[&:]
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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18
A6M5 Zero x 179
A6M5c Zero x 22
J2M3 Jack x 33
N1K1-J George x 119
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 187
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 53
Ki-84a Frank x 27
Ki-100-I Tony x 148



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 74
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 17
A6M5 Zero x 176
A6M5c Zero x 14
J2M3 Jack x 43
N1K1-J George x 110
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 174
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 52
Ki-84a Frank x 16
Ki-100-I Tony x 129



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 59
F4U-1 Corsair x 51
F4U-1A Corsair x 51


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 23
A6M5 Zero x 158
A6M5c Zero x 9
J2M3 Jack x 39
N1K1-J George x 83
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 130
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 42
Ki-84a Frank x 15
Ki-100-I Tony x 79



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 40
F4U-1 Corsair x 20
F4U-1A Corsair x 60


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18
A6M5 Zero x 132
A6M5c Zero x 9
J2M3 Jack x 27
N1K1-J George x 68
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 98
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 37
Ki-84a Frank x 12
Ki-100-I Tony x 54



Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 16
Liberator B.VI x 28
Liberator GR.III x 16
B-24D1 Liberator x 54
B-24J Liberator x 275
P-38J Lightning x 64
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 48


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.III: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed



A6M2 Sen Baku factory hits 11
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar factory hits 6
Ki-83 factory hits 4
Ki-83 factory hits 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick factory hits 2
A7M2 Sam factory hits 2
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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 13
A6M5 Zero x 110
A6M5c Zero x 7
J2M3 Jack x 22
N1K1-J George x 64
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 87
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 33
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-100-I Tony x 48



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9
P-38J Lightning x 36
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed



A7M2 Sam factory hits 1
Ki-44-IIc Tojo factory hits 2

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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 12
A6M5 Zero x 98
A6M5c Zero x 5
J2M3 Jack x 20
N1K1-J George x 61
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 76
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 29
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-100-I Tony x 45



Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.VI x 16
P-38J Lightning x 46
F4U-1 Corsair x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 12
A6M5 Zero x 93
A6M5c Zero x 5
J2M3 Jack x 19
N1K1-J George x 58
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 75
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-100-I Tony x 43



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 17
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 138


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 11
A6M5 Zero x 87
A6M5c Zero x 5
J2M3 Jack x 18
N1K1-J George x 54
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 66
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-100-I Tony x 38



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 18
P-38J Lightning x 33


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed



Ki-84a Frank factory hits 1


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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
A6M5 Zero x 75
A6M5c Zero x 5
J2M3 Jack x 16
N1K1-J George x 52
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 54
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 10
Ki-100-I Tony x 38



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
P-38J Lightning x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed



Ki-45 KAIa Nick factory hits 1



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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7
A6M5 Zero x 50
A6M5c Zero x 3
J2M3 Jack x 14
N1K1-J George x 43
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 44
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 17
Ki-84a Frank x 8
Ki-100-I Tony x 27



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 38
P-51B Mustang x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses



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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 43
A6M5c Zero x 3
J2M3 Jack x 10
N1K1-J George x 37
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 38
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 16
Ki-84a Frank x 7
Ki-100-I Tony x 24



Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 80


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses




Now i'm waiting for the turn to count my losses before coming to any conclusion....

[GreyJoy]

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[GreyJoy]

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[GreyJoy]

One thing is sure....the groups who suffered the most are those who were on LRCAP (P-38s)....and they didn't provide any substantial help to the 4Es....
 
While our P-47s did really a great job....my guess? we lost at least 150 planes and some 100 pilots....Japan, just looking at the reply, should have lost something like 300 fighters...to say the least...
 
Hopefully my recon will give me a good idea of our bombing results... 150/200 planes isn't really sustainable if it's the cost for 30 factory points...

[GreyJoy]

Anyway i think i can draw the first assumption from what i've seen here.... Japanese defences, even when so dense and brutal, can be broken and penetrated by our fighters. What i need now is to figure out how to avoid the coordination problem...i need my sweeps to arrive togheder and before the bombers. And i need my bombers to remain togheder
 
B29s are still grouping....won't throw them away before i can manage to get a decent punch

[GreyJoy]

And this is what we had the second day....

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 18, 44

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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
A6M5 Zero x 171
A6M5c Zero x 19
J2M3 Jack x 21
N1K1-J George x 212
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 238
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 32
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 59
Ki-84a Frank x 74
Ki-100-I Tony x 121


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 47
F4U-1A Corsair x 48


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
A6M5 Zero x 143
A6M5c Zero x 14
J2M3 Jack x 15
N1K1-J George x 171
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 189
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 27
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 53
Ki-84a Frank x 61
Ki-100-I Tony x 93



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18
F4U-1 Corsair x 30
F4U-1A Corsair x 54


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 4
A6M5 Zero x 109
A6M5c Zero x 9
J2M3 Jack x 9
N1K1-J George x 117
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 125
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 40
Ki-84a Frank x 41
Ki-100-I Tony x 61



Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 15
Liberator B.VI x 26
Liberator GR.III x 12
Liberator GR.VI x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 54
B-24J Liberator x 256
P-38J Lightning x 16
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 59


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed



A6M2 Sen Baku factory hits 1
A7M2 Sam factory hits 2
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar factory hits 1
Ki-83 factory hits 3
Ki-84a Frank factory hits 1
N1K1-J George factory hits 2


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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
A6M5 Zero x 96
A6M5c Zero x 8
J2M3 Jack x 8
N1K1-J George x 100
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 110
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 35
Ki-84a Frank x 31
Ki-100-I Tony x 46



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 4
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 207


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 7 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
A6M5 Zero x 85
A6M5c Zero x 7
J2M3 Jack x 8
N1K1-J George x 85
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 94
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 32
Ki-84a Frank x 22
Ki-100-I Tony x 38



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 36
P-38J Lightning x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed



Ki-45 KAIa Nick factory hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
A6M5 Zero x 80
A6M5c Zero x 6
J2M3 Jack x 8
N1K1-J George x 84
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 85
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 29
Ki-84a Frank x 21
Ki-100-I Tony x 35



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged



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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
A6M5 Zero x 72
A6M5c Zero x 6
J2M3 Jack x 8
N1K1-J George x 82
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 78
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 29
Ki-84a Frank x 18
Ki-100-I Tony x 34



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 35
P-51B Mustang x 21


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
A6M5 Zero x 66
A6M5c Zero x 6
J2M3 Jack x 7
N1K1-J George x 77
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 70
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 25
Ki-84a Frank x 17
Ki-100-I Tony x 32



Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 33


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
A6M5 Zero x 58
A6M5c Zero x 6
J2M3 Jack x 6
N1K1-J George x 73
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 65
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 25
Ki-84a Frank x 14
Ki-100-I Tony x 26



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

[kfsgo]

Well, you're going to have to shoot down the ones already built sooner or later...might as well get some bombing in while you're doing it, eh?

[GreyJoy]

Better than what it seemed

But still i have drained up completely my P-38 pool....the LRCAP doesn't work for me, sorry guys

[GreyJoy]

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