Naval and Defense News

[kevinkins]

Anyone know why the device on top is not round?

https://www.defensenews.com/global/euro ... rd%20Brief

[Rebel Yell]

I would assume that since it's AESA it doesn't have to rotate.

[kevinkins]

Thanks.

[BeirutDude]

My understanding is the AEW aircraft have gotten beyond having to have a rotating sensor and not having moving parts = less maintenance and less prone to breakdown. I suspect you're giving up sensing forward and aft, with only broadside beams. the New Boeing 737 AEW aircraft have a similar configuration and Turkey is buying them. Seems like the E-2, E-3, A-50U breed of AEW aircraft are less in vogue for smaller powers. I personally suspect you won't see the USAF/USN, Russian Air Force or PLAAF totally go this route (but bet they pick up some) because it limits 360 degree surveillance, but if your threat axis is limited the fixed sensors are a way to go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_AEW%26C

[jtoatoktoe]

The FREMM has won the FFG(x) for the U.S. Navy

Good choice, its the one I wanted.

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/30/fincantieri-wins-795m-contract-for-navy-frigate-program?fbclid=IwAR041RUC-2a08uEf2eaDuR6HiAhou7m_PvO7gx17woiQBsZoq_1UullhsjI

[ultradave]

ORIGINAL: jtoatoktoe

The FREMM has won the FFG(x) for the U.S. Navy

Good choice, its the one I wanted.

https://news.usni.org/2020/04/30/fincantieri-wins-795m-contract-for-navy-frigate-program?fbclid=IwAR041RUC-2a08uEf2eaDuR6HiAhou7m_PvO7gx17woiQBsZoq_1UullhsjI

Me too. Happy to hear that. I think that's a good choice.

[T Rav]

Regarding the HIND/FENCER engagement and, showing my age a bit. It used to be whenever an A-10 shot down and F-15, the F-15 pilot had to buy the A-10 pilot's choice of beverage... Didn't happen often, but did happen.

T Rav

[BeirutDude]

This is interesting, IF TRUE One of the premises of "The Missiles of October, Part Deux, 2020" scenario was the introduction of S-400 and SS-26 Stone or “Iskander” missiles to Cuba, seems we COULD be half way there!

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2020/02/0 ... s-borders/

[kevinkins]

https://news.yahoo.com/19-dead-iran-war ... 49229.html

[kevinkins]

https://news.usni.org/2020/05/12/navy-m ... rd%20Brief

[FTBSS]

When you consider the Fremm "frigate" in FFGX configuration will have 32 VLS launcher and 16 NSM launchers a 21 Ram point defense missile system. Its displacement will be in the 7k ton range have space for 2 air assets, and 2 rib launches. It is more Destroyer than Frigate.

This is more like a Burke III light (only missing the aft VLS)

[Blast33]

Saudi Arabia wants a lot of missiles:

The Boeing Co., St. Louis, Missouri, is awarded a $1,971,754,089 firm-fixed-price contract to provide non-recurring engineering associated with the Stand-off Land Attack Missile – Expanded Response (SLAM ER) obsolescence redesign effort as well as the production and delivery of 650 SLAM ER missiles in support of the government of Saudi Arabia. Work is expected to be complete by December 2028

And 402 Harpoon Block II missiles and support equipment for the government of Saudi Arabia.
Work is expected to be complete by December 2026.
Link:



Question:
Is the information in a post like this, also incorporated to the database section or is it better to file an extra message there to notify the developers?

[BeirutDude]

Images of the Iranian Naval support vessel hit by a Noor Missile.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... irculation

[comsubpac]

The German yards Lürssen and German Naval Yards are joining together.

Lürssen intends to establish a long-term cooperation in naval shipbuilding with German
Naval Yards Kiel. The existing military and naval surface shipbuilding activities are to be
contributed into a joint company and led by Bremen-based Lürssen Group. The objective of
the combination is to improve the structure of the German shipbuilding industry and to
bolster its efficiency and sustainability. This week, the two shareholding families have
successfully laid the foundation for a definitive contractual agreement for the joint
company. The proposed combination remains subject to approval by the relevant merger
control authorities.

https://www.germannaval.com/fileadmin/u ... ilding.pdf

[kevinkins]

New technology using lasers:

https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/cutting-ed ... ng-lasers/

[stilesw]

When you consider the Fremm "frigate" in FFGX configuration will have 32 VLS launcher and 16 NSM launchers a 21 Ram point defense missile system. Its displacement will be in the 7k ton range have space for 2 air assets, and 2 rib launches. It is more Destroyer than Frigate.
This is more like a Burke III light (only missing the aft VLS)

Patrick,
Already logged.
-WS

[FTBSS]

ORIGINAL: stilesw

When you consider the Fremm "frigate" in FFGX configuration will have 32 VLS launcher and 16 NSM launchers a 21 Ram point defense missile system. Its displacement will be in the 7k ton range have space for 2 air assets, and 2 rib launches. It is more Destroyer than Frigate.
This is more like a Burke III light (only missing the aft VLS)

Patrick,
Already logged.
-WS

LOL, I know this is not the DB3000 thread, this was more a generic this new "frigate" is closer to a destroyer than a frigate in both size and capability. I also read that there is room to grow the VLS to a 48 cell launcher.

[stilesw]

LOL, I know this is not the DB3000 thread, this was more a generic this new "frigate" is closer to a destroyer than a frigate in both size and capability. I also read that there is room to grow the VLS to a 48 cell launcher.

I've always found it interesting that today's "Destroyers" are as big as, and more capable than WWII Cruisers. I wager that most folks with no military background, especially Naval, have no concept of the differences.

Of course a similar scaling factor exists for USAF units. A single F-15 can carry an ordnance load of about 16,000lbs vs a B-17's 17,600lb but with a 1-2 person crew vs 10. About the same ranges 2,400mi vs 2,000 but at 65,000ft vs 36,000ft and 1,875mph (afterburner) vs 287mph.

For the Army just compare the Patton tank to the M1A1 Abrams.

The times are indeed changing!

-WS

[kevinkins]

https://defensemaven.io/warriormaven/fu ... 6ZpQCsfFaA

[BrianinMinnie]

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... d83eb7ec04

So gang is there any reason why the US shouldn't create an Arsenal B-21, which could silently orbit behind a strike package armed with 2 dozen AIM-260's, the canceled AIM-152 AAAM's or maybe the super duper upcoming LREW missile, on some type of rotary internal launchers to swat unwary bad guy aircraft then closeup and retire behind a loyal wing man Jamming screen?