Admirals Edition Naval Thread II

m10bob · Post by **m10bob** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:17 am

Can the original Langley be used as a replenishment CVL ?

Panther Bait · Post by **Panther Bait** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:16 pm

On top of whether there is good data or not, another problem with trying to include "one in a million" shots is that it presumes that the game engine has at least one million possible outcomes for the action in question.  That means tracking things out to 0.000001.  I am guessing that a lot of games don't do that.  "One in a thousand" type events are probably a lot more realistic for a game engine to try and track.
 
Mike

CV Zuikaku · Post by **CV Zuikaku** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:28 pm

Ship's surface radars... do they give any benefit to ship when in combat (eg. better fire control) ?

Yamato hugger · Post by **Yamato hugger** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:46 pm

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Can the original Langley be used as a replenishment CVL ?

No. This is a pic of her after conversion in 1937. Would be damn hard to get enough speed to get off THAT flight deck [:D]

JWE · Post by **JWE** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:00 pm

ORIGINAL: CV Zuikaku
Ship's surface radars... do they give any benefit to ship when in combat (eg. better fire control) ?

No, but better detection, and better opening engagement ranges.

herwin · Post by **herwin** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:41 pm

ORIGINAL: JWE

ORIGINAL: CV Zuikaku
Ship's surface radars... do they give any benefit to ship when in combat (eg. better fire control) ?
No, but better detection, and better opening engagement ranges.

Yes, but it was the improvement in accuracy that really counted IRL. That was the reason battleships and cruisers carried spotting aircraft (worth about 25% improvement in pHit), and battle fleet commanders preferred to have an aircraft carrier around--not so much to provide spotters as to provide air superiority over the gunfire duel to eliminate the enemy's spotters. Surface search radar didn't help here, you needed a combination of visual and radar fire control for the best results (about 50% improvement in pHit).

My PhD research had to address these issues.

m10bob · Post by **m10bob** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:43 pm

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Can the original Langley be used as a replenishment CVL ?

No. This is a pic of her after conversion in 1937. Would be damn hard to get enough speed to get off THAT flight deck [:D]

OOPS!....Forgot that minor detail![:D]

m10bob · Post by **m10bob** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:15 am

This ship is sister to John Wayne's yacht, YMS 328..They served in the Aleutians..

Did any of this class make the cut?

herwin · Post by **herwin** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:23 am

ORIGINAL: m10bob

This ship is sister to John Wayne's yacht, YMS 328..They served in the Aleutians..

Did any of this class make the cut?

Grandfather knew him--they had adjoining berths in Newport. I don't remember it looking like that...

m10bob · Post by **m10bob** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:50 am

ORIGINAL: herwin

ORIGINAL: m10bob

This ship is sister to John Wayne's yacht, YMS 328..They served in the Aleutians..

Did any of this class make the cut?

Grandfather knew him--they had adjoining berths in Newport. I don't remember it looking like that...

His was vastly "civilianized"..

herwin · Post by **herwin** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:55 pm

Yes, I remember it looking like that.

Don Bowen · Post by **Don Bowen** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:44 pm

ORIGINAL: m10bob

This ship is sister to John Wayne's yacht, YMS 328..They served in the Aleutians..

Did any of this class make the cut?

Yes. Both YMS and BYMS are in.

m10bob · Post by **m10bob** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:24 pm

Good Gosh Don....I have asked several questions this week ref inclusions and every single one was answered "YES".....The fact these "little ships" are included provides newer detail for sea missions, etc..

Dili · Post by **Dili** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:12 pm

A ship can be set to be retired from scenario and then came back again? if so then if it was sunk in first period i suppose it will not come back?

JWE · Post by **JWE** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:01 pm

Captain Jack Sparrow might be able to pull that off. Otherwise ...

satx32065 · Post by **satx32065** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:19 am

Is it to late for Jack Sparrow to be one of the ship commanders?

Dili · Post by **Dili** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:12 am

Everything is (im)possible in AE.

CV Zuikaku · Post by **CV Zuikaku** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:58 am

ORIGINAL: Dili

Everything is (im)possible in AE.

Yes, especially for one and only reason: we'll never see AE! [:(]
It's only a good joke! It does not exist! [:@]

Sardaukar · Post by **Sardaukar** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:44 pm

Question about strafing ships... Has anyone checked what sort of damage you can inflict on merchants etc. unarmoured ships by strafing them (100ft Naval attack, I think). Skip bombing worked just fine even in vanilla, but I thought strafing was not doing much damage. Based on "Fire in the Sky" by Eric M. Bergerud, Beaufighters and B-25 "Strafers" were very effective against almost all shipping except armoured warships, using strafing attacks (obviously, they also used bombs).

How about rockets? Do we see rocket-armed fighter-bombers doing anti-ship attacks and such?

Chad Harrison · Post by **Chad Harrison** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:16 pm

I would be curious on this also, both the aircraft cannon effect against merchant/light shipping, and rockets.

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