1.04.10 Fulkerson vs KLilly

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RE: 1.04.36 Fulkerson vs KLilly T5

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It's good to see you back in the saddle again.

My first comment is admittedly a negative one- you really could have won that last game against KLilly. IMO he made a major mistake in stopping too soon in '41 which allowed you to build up your forces over the winter. You had plenty of men and industry, but his summer '42 offensive absolutely killed you. The good news is that really need not happen again, and even if KLilly is going to play better this round, so will you. Putting aside the X's and O's my best suggestion is after you get the turn from him, post what you want but in cases where you have questions don't start playing until you've had a chance to post the stuff on the board so people have an opportunity to give you feedback.

Regarding gameplay, your Achilles Heel seems to be recognizing the threat of being pocketed and not reacting quickly or effectively enough. Effectively enough means specifically making sure you have the reserves ready. When I asked you in Pelton's game where your reserves were, you referred to units on the edge of the map. Needless to say, if your house is on fire and the nearest fire station is 20 miles away, you're in trouble. Think about creating at least one reserve army and also what it should be equipped with in terms of combat and support units, where it should be located, and where means in all cases on a rail line ready for immediate transport to the danger zone. Once you have that figured out, just duplicate the thought process based for how many armies you feel comfortable putting in reserve, and keeping off the front line.

On your deployments- try and keep a good amount of your tank strength in the south. The terrain in the north isn't good tank country and the MPs needed for a deliberate attack makes it much easier to get them into combat where the terrain is more open. I kept looking towards the end of the last game trying to figure out what those tank corps near Moscow would be doing, and in the end it was nothing. In Summer '42 you want them to be in a position of blunting his advance where possible.

Talk about your army Support Units. Are you putting RR construction and sappers in those, particularly where you need fortifications? Until we see a patch that nerfs them, forts are far and away the Sovet's best survival tool come '42.

Watch that you don't over commit against the Finns if/when Leningrad goes. You did a lot better the second time around and probably realized that you don't need a million men there, just enough to tie them down. There isn't enough stuff up north that will cause him to emphasize that area.

Lastly, and you have already done better with this- no letting the enemy into valuable empty cities that are unguarded. I think keeping one reserve army in and immediately around Moscow solves one potential issue.

Good luck and take it to him!
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RE: 1.04.30 Fulkerson vs KLilly T114

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Well you hung in there a lot longer then many would have.

/Salute

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A result that you don't see much of. Way to hang in there mate [;)]
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RE: 1.04.36 Fulkerson vs KLilly T4

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So um.......here's the front lines as of turn 4. Kevin is pushing really hard to get Leningrad and I'm hard pressed to find enough guys to
form a proper front line between him and Finland. He's going to get into Pskov really easily I'm predicting. I have received a lot of fresh
troops but the problem is that they are fresh and empty ( CV = 0, depleted ). So they would be less than optimal for the front lines right
now. I'm thinking of letting them rest for at least one turn to get some kind of usable CV so that at least they will serve as hex occupiers.
Those who occupy hexes. You know.



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RE: 1.04.36 Fulkerson vs KLilly T4

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I've found that I can use the Commanders Report to adjust the airbases and get a periscope view of how they are doing by clickiing on the Units tab and eliminating everything except the Air Bases by using the labels at the bottom and then clicking on "AC" to get the number of aircraft in that airbase I get an increasing count with those airbases with no planes at the top.

When I find an airbase with no planes I usually move it close to the front lines ( not so as to be in danger ) and assign some low quality level bomber (DB-3B) as bait and lots and lots of fighters ( if I can find enough ) so that whenever he bombs that airbase the fighters will hopefully, cause suitable losses to the Axis attackers. Actually, I'd rather use the U-2VS planes for bait role. I have them set to night missions too.

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RE: 1.04.36 Fulkerson vs KLilly T4

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I almost forgot to include the OOB and losses for this turn ( for the playtesters to have some data ). Here's the OOB:

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Here's the ground losses:

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Here's the air losses:

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Here's the state of Soviet production:

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RE: 1.04.36 Fulkerson vs KLilly T4

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I'm always amazed that Kiev seems to readily fall in July in so many AARs when the SW Front was the strongest of the fronts and the southern forces of the Axis were the weakest part between AGC and AGS.
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RE: 1.04.36 Fulkerson vs KLilly T4

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None of my Front HQ's are overloaded except for SouthWestern. I'm going to try to see if I can't balance things a little better. Move some Armies around or something.

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Here's the SU's typical to what I like my HQ's to look like ( except without the second HVY Mortar unit. )

I think I have seen the RR Construction dudes gravitate to the Front HQ even though I have the Corps HQ locked. Anybody else see that too?

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RE: 1.04.36 Fulkerson vs KLilly T4

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Here's the situation near Riga. I'm pulling back slowly, always trying to clog up his avenue of approach, trying to glomm onto his Panzers
with my throw-away units and SEC dudes. I'm getting a lot of Rout results when he attacks........I guess that's due to the low morale of my
dudes at this stage of the game.

I'm railing in more guys but I'm thinking he may be in Pskov before I can form a good front line. Also, I've got troops from two fronts mixed
up ( yellow = Northwest Front, orange = Leningrad Front ), but that's only because of the emergency in progress. I'll strive to un-mix
them when I get a chance.

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Here's the situation near Smolensk. There's not much I can do for this area until I can rail some more troops here. There's not much
holding Kevin back in this area and it's these guys are going to have to fall back over and over until I can form a good line here.

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RE: 1.04.30 Fulkerson vs KLilly T107

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You need to pull back quickly in the South, that's just a disaster waiting to happen down there.
For turn 4 the North is actually looking quite strong, it does need reorganising though.I think you're defending too much West-East here when you should be defending more North-South.Don't worry too much if they head up North into Estonia, you can build formidable defences around Narva which will require a large chunk of 18th army to crack by which time most of the Summer will be over anyway.
You need stronger defences around his armour NW of Gomel.Part of the evacuated Southwest front could be railed up there to strengthen that sector.
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Here's what it looks like near Mogilev / Gomel. I'm running backwards trying to scrape enough guys together to form a line but with all
the rout results I've been getting troops are dissappearing here and there. I'm hoping to get some more fresh troops for the next several
turns so I might be able to build a line here before Moscow is lost. That and Tula.

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ORIGINAL: timmyab
(1) You need to pull back quickly in the South, that's just a disaster waiting to happen down there.
(2) For turn 4 the North is actually looking quite strong, it does need reorganising though.
(3) I think you're defending too much West-East here when you should be defending more North-South.
(4) Don't worry too much if they head up North into Estonia, you can build formidable defences around Narva which will require a large chunk of 18th army to crack by which time most of the Summer will be over anyway.
(5) You need stronger defences around his armour NW of Gomel.
(6) Part of the evacuated Southwest front could be railed up there to strengthen that sector.
6 really good ideas. Muchas Gracias my friend. Or however you spell it.
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Here's that disaster in the south........and I'm afraid it may already be too late to save most of those guys. I can only rail so many at a
time and the disaster that's going to happen in the next few turns is gonna cost a lot of troops. I expect a really really big pocket
sometime soon.

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RE: 1.04.30 Fulkerson vs KLilly T107

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All is not lost in the South.you just need to massively strengthen the shoulder SW of Kiev and South of Zhitomir with plenty of deep defences and everything in the far West can run like hell.Any units with low MPs can form a rear gaurd based in the Stalin line forts North and NW of Proskurov.No need to evacuate the Southern front just yet I don't think
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About 1300 planes are still in the National Reserve ( of about 5700+ planes ) mostly because I don't have enough front line fighters to protect whatever bombers might be at an airbase. I'd really rather not expose my bombers to attacks without at least one fighter group at the base. So I'm leaving them in the National Reserve until the total Axis fighter numbers drop a lot. I expect to have an Axis fighter problem for the next 10 turns or so and then it'll be safe for bomber deployment maybe.

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Right now I've got enough AP's to transition the most experienced air groups into the latest fighter model plane so that the combination will be optimal. So I'm trying to get the high-experienced dudes from I-153's into Mig-3's and Lagg-3's instead. And after all the I-153's are converted I'm going to think more about converting all the I-16 types into Lagg-3's and Mig-3's (in that order ).

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