THE THREAD!!!

[Grollub]

Good morning friends.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Grollub

Good morning friends.

Good morning, Viking dude, et. al.

[Chickenboy]

Cuppa joe. Gettin' a turn done. [8D]

[Mike Solli]

Morning guys. I'm still working on getting this damn Windows 7 to work. I'm currently downloading the network adapter driver, which is missing. Can anyone talk me through installing it? I have no idea how you guys do this kind of stuff all day. [&:]

[Redsunrizing]

Hello Mike, go to Device Manager, right click your device with the yellow exclamation mark in the front and select Update Driver Software; then click Search automatically for updated driver software.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Morning guys. I'm still working on getting this damn Windows 7 to work. I'm currently downloading the network adapter driver, which is missing. Can anyone talk me through installing it? I have no idea how you guys do this kind of stuff all day. [&:]

Mike, I could help you with PC (I work with those fro 20+ years now and have assembled and repaired hundreds of them if not thousands) but you, apparently, have Mac... you should ask Nik...


What you can do is (if I understood Nik correctly):

#1
Place Mac OS-X in DVD Drive

#2
Try to update the driver via "Manage" -> "Device Manager" but tell the Windows to first search the DVD (with Mac OS-X)



Leo "Apollo11"

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: Mynok

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: Nikademus




Insert the disk, the setup routine should auto run. If it doesnt you'll need to find the bootcamp setup file. If you used Bootcamp wizard to install windows on the mac double click the bootclick icon. Or you can manually update the drivers using windows device manager.

Windows sucks! The only reason for it is AE. finally got bootcamp to run. Still no internet or monitor (other than the default) though. It say the network adapter driver is missing, whatever the hell that is. I'll try using the device manager now. Sheesh.

Dude. Listen, just browse the CD. There's a boot camp directory. Double click it. There is a setup exe in there. Run it. This is not hard.

I tried that Mynok. It says "Bootcamp x64 is unsupported on this computer model." Does this mean I should install 32 bit Windows 7?

[USSAmerica]

Good morning - Tithe. [&o][&o][&o]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: Mynok

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli




Windows sucks! The only reason for it is AE. finally got bootcamp to run. Still no internet or monitor (other than the default) though. It say the network adapter driver is missing, whatever the hell that is. I'll try using the device manager now. Sheesh.

Dude. Listen, just browse the CD. There's a boot camp directory. Double click it. There is a setup exe in there. Run it. This is not hard.

I tried that Mynok. It says "Bootcamp x64 is unsupported on this computer model." Does this mean I should install 32 bit Windows 7?

Hey Mike, I don't know, so this is just a guess, but you might need to try to run that from the Mac OS instead of from Windows. It sounds like Windows inside bootcamp basically sits on top of Mac OS, and if the Mac OS can't tell Bootcamp which driver to use properly then it could cause your issue.

Whew! I just exhausted my complete store of Mac OS knowledge. [:D]

[Mike Solli]

Windows 7 gets installed from a program call Boot Camp Assistant on the Mac side. Once it's installed, you go into Windows and open the Mac OS disk where there's a PC program called Boot Camp that installs the drivers. That's where I'm running into problems.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Windows 7 gets installed from a program call Boot Camp Assistant on the Mac side. Once it's installed, you go into Windows and open the Mac OS disk where there's a PC program called Boot Camp that installs the drivers. That's where I'm running into problems.

Mike, as I asked above:

Are those drivers visible (i.e. separate files on that Mac OS-X DVD) or they are installed via BootCamp EXE program exclusively?

Also what Mac OS-X version you have (i.e. how old is it)?


Leo "Apollo11"

[Mike Solli]

I think the drivers are visible (don't quote me on that though). I'm using the most recent OS - 10.7.2.

[Mike Solli]

I just found out from Apple that I have to use the 32 bit Windows 7. Ok, I can do that. [:D]

[Mynok]

That's very strange. What type of Mac do you have?

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

I just found out from Apple that I have to use the 32 bit Windows 7. Ok, I can do that. [:D]

Why is that Mike?

No drivers for 64 bit Windows 7 version in Mac BootCamp?

BTW, you will have 3.2+ GB of RAM when suing Windows 7 32 bit (i.e. you will loose 700+ MBs - that that is not big deal since no programs actually use that much RAM anyway apart from specialized ones or the virtualization that I, for example, use regularly)...

Also, I always suggest Windows 7 32 bit to anyone with <= 4 GB RAM - less problems with 32 bit drivers compared to 64 bit Windows 7 drivers! [:)]


Leo "Apollo11"

[Nikademus]

its not because of the type of mac. Mac's after all are Intel based PC's on the inside just like any other. Apple however has a death grip on the DRIVERS for the specific hardware components used in their PC's, like the Airport wireless device or for keyboard specific functions. It is possible to get 'some' of these drivers independantly but it's a pain in the ass. I finally got the airport device to work via a Broadcomm driver for windows (back before i had a copy of Snow Leopard) and got the Nvidia graphics to work, but couldn't get the sound or keyboard drivers until i bought OS X.

As of OS-X "Lion", Apple no longer provides drivers for any Windows other than Win7 (XP users will need a copy of Snow Leopard or older) Hadn't heard about the 64 bit issue vs. 32 bit issue but then again the version of Win7 on my Core2 Duo "era" Mac uses the 32 bit version of 7 so it passed under my radar.

This isn't Microsoft's fault. Apple specifically markets it's Bootcamp feature as a selling point to put more Mac's on people's laps. But they control it very tightly just as Steve Jobs taught em. In the legal-ese for example it says specifically that it's ILLEGAL to load OS-X on any non Apple PC and if you do they will not give you any support.

Always amazed me that Microsoft is made to look so Big Business but Apple is just as much Big Business but manages to portray itself as the people's hero at the same time. You can thank Jobs for that too. I believe the "PC vs. Mac" commercials were his brainchild.

[USSAmerica]

Nik, I agree with your opinion of Jobs.&nbsp; He and Gates did mostly the same things, but Jobs always got more "cool points" and he was a master of taking advantage of that when marketing.

[Chickenboy]

Also remember that Gates is the sole reason for Apple's ongoing existence. If Microsoft wouldn't have floated them a major loan in the late 1990s, Apple would have gone under. Jobs went so far as to call Gates a "marvelous human being" for furthering this loan request, IIRC.

How Jobs gets any cool points for running a company into the ground and then beggaring a competitor for a loan is beyond me. When Microsoft ruled the galaxy, they should have thought again about bringing the jackboot down on their competitor's throat when they had the chance. Antitrust lawsuits notwithstanding. Only through Gates' mercy was Jobs / Apple able to realize their opportunity.

I realize this isn't a very popular opinion, but bidness is bidness. [8D]

[Chickenboy]

Whoever said that Canadians were all 'warm and fuzzy'? [:D]

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/vi ... -fight.cnn

[JWE]

Back in my days in SoCal, I had the opportunity to meet both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.

Notwithstanding what their companies do, and how they are perceived, I really liked Steve Jobs. He was like a homey. We went to lunch and he had a beer (an Anchor Steam, iirc) and a ceasar salad and he didn't give a rats what we had. He was a wonderful conversationalist and he listened. As a person, I liked him a lot.
[ed] yeah, ok, he was hard socialist, but he was an honest one and was always willing to converse (and have a beer) with someone worth talking to.

Gates was a dump. Spent all his time trying to show how important he was. Did not enjoy my time with him; he would never make eye contact, and would always try to trump any conversation that was going on. As a person, I wanted to wash after being with him.
[ed] yeah, ok, he is hard socialist, but he is a dishonest one. He talks to none. He cares about nothing.

But then, all things considered, I have a Microsoft System on my 'puter, and MS applications. It's because my clients use them and I gotta go with the flow. Soon as things can get unified, I'm more than willing to urinate on little Bill.