Between the Storms

[John 3rd]

John (JWE/Symon): Do you have any thoughts as per Juan's recommendations?

[ny59giants]

To Allied players: What do you think about the American supply situation early in the war?? I damaged their industry by about 50% across the board to have them need to ramp up their industry. A month into my game vs Cribtop, the USA still doesn't have significant surplus in supplies yet. There was the small industries that were repaired in the 30 days or less and then there will be another sizable chunk that will be done in 60 days or less. After this happens, their supply situation should be much more manageable.

My question for future versions of BTS, should the industry be damaged at 66% vs just 50% or is it OK as is??

[John 3rd]

Good question Michael. I'd like some commentary to that before we wrap this update.

[btd64]

Gents,
Industry damage at 50% seems ok. 66% may even be ok. After all, This is a game of challenges, and slow build up makes it more of a challenge. More realistic, I think so. In late 1940, If I remember correctly, war time industry was moving but not even near full speed....GP

[Reg]

Hi John,

Have you ever considered the concept of slipping aircraft arrival dates so R&D is needed to allow new types to arrive at anything like the historical timelines?? Development of aircraft types not given priority would languish which is not the case under stock.

It will certainly add another layer to Japanese planning.

[John 3rd]

I think this makes sense to me. Scale the Americans back a bit further to better reflect what it truly was like.

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: Reg

Hi John,

Have you ever considered the concept of slipping aircraft arrival dates so R&D is needed to allow new types to arrive at anything like the historical timelines?? Development of aircraft types not given priority would languish which is not the case under stock.

It will certainly add another layer to Japanese planning.

LIKE that but don't have a clue as to how it would be done...

[Reg]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

ORIGINAL: Reg

Hi John,

Have you ever considered the concept of slipping aircraft arrival dates so R&D is needed to allow new types to arrive at anything like the historical timelines?? Development of aircraft types not given priority would languish which is not the case under stock.

It will certainly add another layer to Japanese planning.

LIKE that but don't have a clue as to how it would be done...

There is a Start Month and Year for each aircraft type in the editor. Just add a couple of months to this date. Possibly a bit less for early war and bit more for late war types...

You might need some input from someone more familiar with how much aircraft can be accelerated before you pick a delay figure...

[HansBolter]

Heads up on a few possible BTS glitches. I'm running 1.6.

The two Aussie brigades that start in Malaya usually combine with the Lark, Gull and Sparrow battalions to create the 8th Division.

BTS shows them combining to create the 20th Brigade. I'm a little concerned that I'm gonna get shorted another Allied division here.

Also, the Aussie militia brigades somehow skyrocketed in PP cost to release. They are over 1k PP.

They used to be about 450 PP. It is cheaper to buy out a US divisional regiment at about 650 PP to ship to Port Moresby than it is to free up a militia brigade.

Is this WAD?

[John 3rd]

Any other issues/comments? I plan to do the update tonight and send the files to Michael so he can work on the US Economy.

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Heads up on a few possible BTS glitches. I'm running 1.6.

The two Aussie brigades that start in Malaya usually combine with the Lark, Gull and Sparrow battalions to create the 8th Division.

BTS shows them combining to create the 20th Brigade. I'm a little concerned that I'm gonna get shorted another Allied division here.

Also, the Aussie militia brigades somehow skyrocketed in PP cost to release. They are over 1k PP.

They used to be about 450 PP. It is cheaper to buy out a US divisional regiment at about 650 PP to ship to Port Moresby than it is to free up a militia brigade.

Is this WAD?

The Aussies are completely re-tooled by Symon/JWE. This is his ball of wax to work with. There is certainly a stronger Brigade presence in the Aussie OOB.

[Frolix8]

In BTS v1.6 there also is a propossible problem with Torres Strait Bn (5943) which has TOE 2719 at start which has a delay of (4207) then upgrades to 2720 on (4305) then 2721 on (4305). In the TOE it is down as a US Army unit.

[btd64]

ORIGINAL: Frolix8

In BTS v1.6 there also is a propossible problem with Torres Strait Bn (5943) which has TOE 2719 at start which has a delay of (4207) then upgrades to 2720 on (4305) then 2721 on (4305). In the TOE it is down as a US Army unit.

John, I looked at this unit in v1.6 and in game it says Aussie unit. Also if Frolix8 has the right version, the unit name should be Torres Str lt inf. Still can't get into the editor so I couldn't check the oob. But the Papuan Inf Bat at PM shows 30 inf sections, but no inf numbers and no assault strength....GP

[John 3rd]

OK. Thanks guys. This gives me plenty of places to look and FIX.

Am gonna watch the ROYALS game and work on this as well. Once done, Michael gets it for changes to USA economy.

He and I talked about China and we agreed to raise the garrison requirements by 400 on the Chinese side, 400 on the Japanese side, and 500 in Manchuria. This should continue to SLOW DOWN the BS that is China.

[Kitakami]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd
<snip> Once done, Michael gets it for changes to USA economy.
He and I talked about China and we agreed to raise the garrison requirements by 400 on the Chinese side, 400 on the Japanese side, and 500 in Manchuria. This should continue to SLOW DOWN the BS that is China.

One thing to be taken into consideration in China is the VPs that can be lost when not meeting the garrison requirements. O am not saying you do not tweak them, just that you need to be careful.

My 2 cents

[DOCUP]

The two Aussie BDE's in Malaya can recombine into a single BDE or you can keep them as two with the same numbers.&nbsp; Your Choice.&nbsp; I am still looking at BTS 1.5, so things might of been changed.&nbsp; The Marine CD units are stuck with their 5in CD guns until 43.&nbsp; In stock there was an immediate upgrade to 155mm 1918 GPFs. The problem is I don't see any production of 5in CD guns.&nbsp; I could of missed it but didn't see it.&nbsp;
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China: Is there a way to restricting some of the Jap units in&nbsp;Manchuria&nbsp;until mid 42 or something.&nbsp; From what I am reading its the Manchurian units that is tipping the balance of China and the deep thrust into India or Aussie land?&nbsp; Just asking here.&nbsp; Please don't shoot me.

[John 3rd]

This is why I am raising the Garrison Requirements in Manchuria. Should help a bit but we can only do so much.

DOCUP: What is the ID number of those 5" CD guns?

[DOCUP]

1141

[John 3rd]

Thanks!

[Symon]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Heads up on a few possible BTS glitches. I'm running 1.6.

The two Aussie brigades that start in Malaya usually combine with the Lark, Gull and Sparrow battalions to create the 8th Division.

BTS shows them combining to create the 20th Brigade. I'm a little concerned that I'm gonna get shorted another Allied division here.

Also, the Aussie militia brigades somehow skyrocketed in PP cost to release. They are over 1k PP.

They used to be about 450 PP. It is cheaper to buy out a US divisional regiment at about 650 PP to ship to Port Moresby than it is to free up a militia brigade.

Is this WAD?

The Aussies are completely re-tooled by Symon/JWE. This is his ball of wax to work with. There is certainly a stronger Brigade presence in the Aussie OOB.

One of these is a 'burp'. 22nd and 27th Brigades (slots 6639 and 6644, respectively) should not recombine. Replaced the old 8th Div with 23rd Brig for the 'Birds" to recombine into but neglected to remove the primary unit dependency from 22nd and 27th Brigades. Sorry about that. Please, John 3rd, replace 5981 as primary unit with a '0' for these. Thanks.

The other is WAD. Intended to make it politically expensive to deploy Australian militia units. They had to jump through lots of hoops to obtain out-of-country deployability. Hopefully, only those that actually did will get the opportunity.

Ciao. JWE