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RE: With Sensai Berle
MAPS! When the hell did they ever give Marines maps? They generally just point in a direction ( I failed the compass course twice) and say" go that way for 2 days, or till ammo is exhausted, then we will get back with you."
I was in arty, and we had a XO ( VMI grad) that was real gung -ho. We made a move during an operation in Germany, with lots of NATO types, that had us passing the lead tanks and infantry. It is not a good sign to an arty man, when you start passing the grunts. Needless to say the CO was not happy when he finally raised us on the radio from the proper position, and found us 15km out of pocket. The XO played it off as an emergency direct fire mission on bunkers when we passed the grunts again going the other way.
Just point...we get closer.
Semper Fi
I was in arty, and we had a XO ( VMI grad) that was real gung -ho. We made a move during an operation in Germany, with lots of NATO types, that had us passing the lead tanks and infantry. It is not a good sign to an arty man, when you start passing the grunts. Needless to say the CO was not happy when he finally raised us on the radio from the proper position, and found us 15km out of pocket. The XO played it off as an emergency direct fire mission on bunkers when we passed the grunts again going the other way.
Just point...we get closer.
Semper Fi
One of the serious problems in planning the fight against American doctrine.... is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine
RE: With Sensai Berle
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
This whole Willie Nelson dream sequence has got me wondering about landing at Rossel Brand Is.(secret code name invented by Admiral Lord Sprior) with 95 bombers at Rabaul and it being within Zero with drop tank range.
I am wondering I should drop these boys off at Horn Is. or Terapo instead. Terapo has an airfield and has only 500 or so troops with an assault value of 12 and no fortification. Even with heavy disruption, a USMC Regt should be able to take them in one attack. Terapo would still be within Zero range of Rabaul and Madang is only 4 hexes away with a level 5 airfield (no aircraft?..but that could change). Horn Is. has a level 2 field but unknown defences. Holding Horn would permit movement of forces through the Torres Strait. Horn Is is also out of range of Zeroes from Rabaul. Either spot would be a distraction from the main effort in the West.
I have a feeling the CO of 21st Marine Regt. might be a bit ticked off....not having the right maps and all.
If you're thinking about Horn island, are there any plans for Merauke just to the north? Are the WJD present there? Holding the two of them gives a nice little umbrella to keep the pesky varmints off, especially if they're traipsing down from Hollandia.
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Right, so that's one vote for "maps, we don't need no steenkeeng maps"
Interestingly, a B-25 in polished aluminum just flew over my house with a chase plane. Don't see that every day.
Interestingly, a B-25 in polished aluminum just flew over my house with a chase plane. Don't see that every day.

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RE: With Sensai Berle
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This whole Willie Nelson dream sequence has got me wondering about landing at Rossel Brand Is.(secret code name invented by Admiral Lord Sprior) with 95 bombers at Rabaul and it being within Zero with drop tank range.
I am wondering I should drop these boys off at Horn Is. or Terapo instead. Terapo has an airfield and has only 500 or so troops with an assault value of 12 and no fortification. Even with heavy disruption, a USMC Regt should be able to take them in one attack. Terapo would still be within Zero range of Rabaul and Madang is only 4 hexes away with a level 5 airfield (no aircraft?..but that could change). Horn Is. has a level 2 field but unknown defences. Holding Horn would permit movement of forces through the Torres Strait. Horn Is is also out of range of Zeroes from Rabaul. Either spot would be a distraction from the main effort in the West.
I have a feeling the CO of 21st Marine Regt. might be a bit ticked off....not having the right maps and all.
If you're thinking about Horn island, are there any plans for Merauke just to the north? Are the WJD present there? Holding the two of them gives a nice little umbrella to keep the pesky varmints off, especially if they're traipsing down from Hollandia.
We have no recon of Merauke but, as I recall, it was captured with a single SNLF unit. It's still a level one airfield.

RE: With Sensai Berle
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Ossian
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
This whole Willie Nelson dream sequence has got me wondering about landing at Rossel Brand Is.(secret code name invented by Admiral Lord Sprior) with 95 bombers at Rabaul and it being within Zero with drop tank range.
I am wondering I should drop these boys off at Horn Is. or Terapo instead. Terapo has an airfield and has only 500 or so troops with an assault value of 12 and no fortification. Even with heavy disruption, a USMC Regt should be able to take them in one attack. Terapo would still be within Zero range of Rabaul and Madang is only 4 hexes away with a level 5 airfield (no aircraft?..but that could change). Horn Is. has a level 2 field but unknown defences. Holding Horn would permit movement of forces through the Torres Strait. Horn Is is also out of range of Zeroes from Rabaul. Either spot would be a distraction from the main effort in the West.
I have a feeling the CO of 21st Marine Regt. might be a bit ticked off....not having the right maps and all.
If you're thinking about Horn island, are there any plans for Merauke just to the north? Are the WJD present there? Holding the two of them gives a nice little umbrella to keep the pesky varmints off, especially if they're traipsing down from Hollandia.
We have no recon of Merauke but, as I recall, it was captured with a single SNLF unit. It's still a level one airfield.
It might be a good move to go to Terapo instead but one thing you should bear in mind is the port infrastructure. Terapo is a 0 SPS port, hence the most it can ever be built up to is a size 3 port. If it currently is only a size 0 port you will have considerable difficulties in keeping it supplied, particularly if you have no other Allied bases in Papua New Guinea to send supply overland to Terapo.
Alfred
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RE: With Sensai Berle
Torres Strait and Arafua Sea. Right now, Darwin is a very strong position. It is out of reach of our B-17's at Alice. The LB-30's could reach but they are too fragile. The B-24 can just make it. I suppose we could collect all our B-24's at Alice and try to shut down Darwin field. There is no hope of getting enough supply to Tennant Creek.


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There is also the minor political issue of the theoretical dividing line between SWPAC and SouPAC which, as I recall, was either the Coral Sea or somewhere in the Solomons [:)]

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JJ has sniffed out the likely direction of our effort and has massively reinforced Rabaul with fighters and (probably) Netties. Also, the loss of recon support at Nedeni means we have not had recon at Lunga for 3 d. The risk/reward ratio is tilting into the unfavorable range. We cant afford one or two carriers being damaged or sunk right before the SOW operation.
Consequently, I am giving up on Rossell Is. for now and will send the 21st Marine Regt either to Horn Is. or Merauke.
Remind me, Horn Is. is a non-Atoll with a capacity limit or it is an Atoll with no capacity limit?

Consequently, I am giving up on Rossell Is. for now and will send the 21st Marine Regt either to Horn Is. or Merauke.
Remind me, Horn Is. is a non-Atoll with a capacity limit or it is an Atoll with no capacity limit?

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Horn Island is:
(a) not an atoll
(b) has a 60k troop capacity
Hence there will be no auto shock attack on landing at Horn Island.
Alfred
Edit: Horn Island IS an atoll. See posts 4505 and 4507
(a) not an atoll
(b) has a 60k troop capacity
Hence there will be no auto shock attack on landing at Horn Island.
Alfred
Edit: Horn Island IS an atoll. See posts 4505 and 4507
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RE: Login Nirvana
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Consequently, I am giving up on Rossell Is. for now and will send the 21st Marine Regt either to Horn Is. or Merauke.
Remind me, Horn Is. is a non-Atoll with a capacity limit or it is an Atoll with no capacity limit?
Wow! That psychoanalysis of dreams stuff seems to have worked! Good decision!
Horn Island has a port capacity of 1 (buildable to 4); air capacity of 3 (buildable to 6). Like he said, not an atoll.
With only 600 WJDs on site, the Marines could run an entertaining field-ex there for a turn or two, and then loll about, drinking captured JJ beer and verbally abusing the Seabees working to expand the port and airfield in the hot equatorial sun [:D]
Once occupied your fighters would be perfectly positioned to attrit all those unescorted Betties from Rabaul who might want to come visit, and let some Dauntlesses practice on any shipping that dares to run the Torres Strait on the Darwin/Port Moresby supply chain run.
Thus screwing up JJ's logistics for the upcoming pivotal battle in Oz. [;)]
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I was pretty much already going to give up on Rossel after I saw all the fighters and 2/3 of the bombers skip out of Noumea and, presumably, move to Rabaul and Lunga.
Then I had a dream last night (and I almost never remember my dreams, maybe once a year and this is two dreams in a couple of days) where I bought a Beretta handgun, all black. It was a thing of beauty. Then, when I woke up in the morning (in the dream) it was all disassembled and there were all these tiny O-rings lying about among the metal parts. So I am frantically trying to put the thing back together and there is no way to make all the O-rings fit. As far as I know there are no O-rings in a Berreta hand gun, but I did not need no steenkeeng Jungian or Freudian analysis.
New weapon acquired (4 USN carrier taffys)
The thing is FUBAR (the operation goes FUBAR)
O-ring failures (does that remind you of anything?)
Then I had a dream last night (and I almost never remember my dreams, maybe once a year and this is two dreams in a couple of days) where I bought a Beretta handgun, all black. It was a thing of beauty. Then, when I woke up in the morning (in the dream) it was all disassembled and there were all these tiny O-rings lying about among the metal parts. So I am frantically trying to put the thing back together and there is no way to make all the O-rings fit. As far as I know there are no O-rings in a Berreta hand gun, but I did not need no steenkeeng Jungian or Freudian analysis.
New weapon acquired (4 USN carrier taffys)
The thing is FUBAR (the operation goes FUBAR)
O-ring failures (does that remind you of anything?)

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I've seen many O-ring failures, some more spectacular than others.
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@ sprior: this O-ring of which you speak...is it common issue amongst RN sailors on shore leave in Singapore for example?ORIGINAL: sprior
I've seen many O-ring failures, some more spectacular than others.

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Ugh. That's SO much like a clinical psychologist. Ascribing whatever successes or good decisions in the future to psychoanalysis of today.ORIGINAL: Moondawggie
Wow! That psychoanalysis of dreams stuff seems to have worked! Good decision!
I'm reminded of a bit from an ex-animated series called "The Critic" from a few years back. Rainier Wolfcastle (a thinly veiled knockoff of A. Schwarzenneger) was being interviewed and shown in a clip from his latest movie. As was to be expected, it was over the top violent, with gratuitous sex and poor punmanship.
When the clip was over, the interviewer sat for a moment, stunned by the gratuitous drivel he had just seen. Finally, he asked Rainier Wolfcastle-incredulously-"How do you sleep at night?"
I imagine, Moondawggie, that you can relate to Rainier Wolfcastle's response: "On top of a mountain of money, surrounded by beautiful women." [:'(]

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Ugh. That's SO much like a clinical psychologist. Ascribing whatever successes or good decisions in the future to psychoanalysis of today.ORIGINAL: Moondawggie
Wow! That psychoanalysis of dreams stuff seems to have worked! Good decision!
I'm reminded of a bit from an ex-animated series called "The Critic" from a few years back. Rainier Wolfcastle (a thinly veiled knockoff of A. Schwarzenneger) was being interviewed and shown in a clip from his latest movie. As was to be expected, it was over the top violent, with gratuitous sex and poor punmanship.
When the clip was over, the interviewer sat for a moment, stunned by the gratuitous drivel he had just seen. Finally, he asked Rainier Wolfcastle-incredulously-"How do you sleep at night?"
I imagine, Moondawggie, that you can relate to Rainier Wolfcastle's response: "On top of a mountain of money, surrounded by beautiful women." [:'(]
Loved that cartoon.
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i didn't realize he had hopped over from the Simpsons... although some of "The Critic" characters have showed up on the Simpsons on occasion. [:)]ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Ugh. That's SO much like a clinical psychologist. Ascribing whatever successes or good decisions in the future to psychoanalysis of today.ORIGINAL: Moondawggie
Wow! That psychoanalysis of dreams stuff seems to have worked! Good decision!
I'm reminded of a bit from an ex-animated series called "The Critic" from a few years back. Rainier Wolfcastle (a thinly veiled knockoff of A. Schwarzenneger) was being interviewed and shown in a clip from his latest movie. As was to be expected, it was over the top violent, with gratuitous sex and poor punmanship.
When the clip was over, the interviewer sat for a moment, stunned by the gratuitous drivel he had just seen. Finally, he asked Rainier Wolfcastle-incredulously-"How do you sleep at night?"
I imagine, Moondawggie, that you can relate to Rainier Wolfcastle's response: "On top of a mountain of money, surrounded by beautiful women." [:'(]
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JJ populated Port Moresby with Nells, Nicks and Zeroes but they were caught on the ground. Madang(NW of Lae)is now groaning with the weight of 60+ bombers. Recon shows no fighters so I tasked the LB-30's now at Charters Towers and some B-24's moved to Townsville to hit the field. The B-17's at Townsville and 2 squadrosn of B-25's at Cairns will hit PM again.
Heavy bombers raided Noumea, encounterd only one fighter on cap and did quite a bit of damage to transports, support vessels adn one sub at Noumea.
The first ground assault will go in at Nadi today.

Heavy bombers raided Noumea, encounterd only one fighter on cap and did quite a bit of damage to transports, support vessels adn one sub at Noumea.
The first ground assault will go in at Nadi today.

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So, how are Milo and The Hairy One doing?? [&:]
i have a question: Milo's lawyers are Dewey, Cheatham and Howe... are his financial advisors Ilgott and Gaines? [:'(]
i have a question: Milo's lawyers are Dewey, Cheatham and Howe... are his financial advisors Ilgott and Gaines? [:'(]
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I thought is was the firm of Burnham and Runn? [:'(]
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Almost as fine as the proposed merger (never culminated) between Merrill-Lynch and Drexal-Burnham... firm was to be called Lynch and Burnham.







