The Power of Inexperience / GreyJoy(A)-Rader(J)

[princep01]

Ser Greyjoy. When you awake on the morrow, I ask you to think on this: Why hurry any attack on the enemy's greatest bastion (Honshu). Enjoy the soften up process. You should be all too familar with that and you have witnessed the effects of a nice, drawn out torment before the ultimate taking. Savor this moment and do not rush headlong, American style, to end the enemy's suffering. Think of all the pain and suffering they have inflicted on you...all the lamentations at home, all the industrial might consumed on building the sinews of war. The LYBs started the fracas, now hold them in a headlock and plummel them most throughly before the coup de grace.

Practice General Nemo's advice and rain fire and explosive from the sky on the homes of your enemies. Watch them melt to gray ash and charred timbers. No need to rush into another landing on what will be heavily defended shores. We are well aware that the bombing campaign has finite limits on how close it can bring you to final victory. However, you have just begun this rain of metal from an aluminum sky of Allied aircraft. Allow them to do their jobs. Let your ground pounders rest, refit and enjoy a few months of relative safety from the storm. Sink his navy, destroy his abilty to challenge you in the air and then bring forth the might of Allied ground /sea/air combat onto the heads of an already defeated foe.

Victory is ours, Ser Greyjoy. Carpe Diem and enjoy the ride through the forum with the laurel wreath upon your brow.

[jmalter]

hi GJ,

wrt strat-bombing runs, ime there will always be a few 4E elements that don't ever form up w/ the main raid, they'll dribble in after & take some losses.
this is 'expected behavior', there's nothing you can do about it. but you can adjust your 4E sqn rest-%age to maximize bombers on ops while giving damaged airframes time to repair, while keeping fatigue low. in the face of hvy opposition, well-supplied 4E strat-bombers can only hope to maintain a 50/50 ops/rest rate at best.

& i see your sweeps coming in at various altitudes, ain't it better to try to combine them at equal altitudes? that is, fighters based at a given range from their target (+/- 1 hex) should be assigned to the same altitude.

[paullus99]

Japan gets lots of ground reinforcements during the 1944 / 1945 time frame - plus waiting will allow Rader to not only dig in, but bring in additional forces from other areas of the map. Many Japanese LCUs are crap at this point, but still, put enough of them in bad terrain with forts and they will be tough to dislodge.

There is no reason GJ can't do a few things at once - continue to rain death and destruction from the skies, plus capture a few key areas of Honshu as well.

[princep01]

Paullus, I must respectfully disagree.

I would observe the following: First the LYBs have already fortified Honshu rather heavily. Second, there is already a substantial ground presence there. Third, the Allied juggernaut is not a static beast. It too will grow in power during 44-45. It will grow much faster both quantitatively and in quality Fourth: It is mid 44; while the LYBs will also grow, it will not be 1945 before Honshu is industrially a smoking ruin. The girl's basketball team will have little trouble bringing the nation down in 4 months...although they might invite a Marine to escort them thru the rubble. Fifth, why take much risk at all at this point. Rader must expose his CVs to battle within the next few months. The Allied navy only grows relatively more powerful every month. Soon, and probably within the next 3 months, Ser Greyjoy will seek out KB and put it to an end in an uneven battle.

My advise is to prep your invasion force well, sink or seriously attrite the KB, bomb the LYBs into the stone age and then send in the "girls".

"Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war"

princep Bolton

[jeffk3510]

ORIGINAL: princep01

Paullus, I must respectfully disagree.

I would observe the following: First the LYBs have already fortified Honshu rather heavily. Second, there is already a substantial ground presence there. Third, the Allied juggernaut is not a static beast. It too will grow in power during 44-45. It will grow much faster both quantitatively and in quality Fourth: It is mid 44; while the LYBs will also grow, it will not be 1945 before Honshu is industrially a smoking ruin. The girl's basketball team will have little trouble bringing the nation down in 4 months...although they might invite a Marine to escort them thru the rubble. Fifth, why take much risk at all at this point. Rader must expose his CVs to battle within the next few months. The Allied navy only grows relatively more powerful every month. Soon, and probably within the next 3 months, Ser Greyjoy will seek out KB and put it to an end in an uneven battle.

My advise is to prep your invasion force well, sink or seriously attrite the KB, bomb the LYBs into the stone age and then send in the "girls".

"Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war"

princep Bolton

It is actually..."Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war" [;)]

[Cap Mandrake]

I am pretty sure everywhere in Honshu is going to be crawling with LYB's. At least, if you land at Akita, make sure you take lots of doggie bones.

[jeffk3510]

My best friend growing up had an Akita named Cuda...awesome dog.

[GreyJoy]

Guys, i understand your concerns about a landing right in front of the Emperor's palace door....believe me: i fully feel the same concerns.
 
At the same time i know i don't wanna simply sit back and bomb. Not only because i think i cannot win this war simply by strat bombing, but also because my opponent, this AAR and you all contributors deserve a game that thrills and suprises untill the very end.
We will roll the dice again very soon.
 
It's a game after all and we all wanna have fun.
 
So we're gonna land at Honshu. i'm not saying we're landing tomorrow but not even in 1945. Somewhere in the next few months we'll be able to do so.
 
Jun 6, 7 1944
 
We tried a 50 B24Js night raid at Maebashi targetting the a/c factories there (100% moonlight).
The raid was a failure. Despite the good weather the night CAP was stiff and we didn't achieve a single hit...losing 6 bombers.
 
In SOPAC we sunk some 3 more PBs that were trying to save the Russell Garisson...really don't understand this behaviour of Rader...[&:]
 
In one week we'll start to load the 3 reinforced divisions that will be invading Paramushiro and Onnekotan Jiima.
 
Tomorrow we'll strat bomb again his Frank Production near Tokyo, while our 2Es will attack Aikia AF, while some minor naval raids will be made at Sadogashima.
 
Enemy subs spotted near Addak, Seattle and Uruppu....
 
 

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: jmalter

hi GJ,

wrt strat-bombing runs, ime there will always be a few 4E elements that don't ever form up w/ the main raid, they'll dribble in after & take some losses.
this is 'expected behavior', there's nothing you can do about it. but you can adjust your 4E sqn rest-%age to maximize bombers on ops while giving damaged airframes time to repair, while keeping fatigue low. in the face of hvy opposition, well-supplied 4E strat-bombers can only hope to maintain a 50/50 ops/rest rate at best.

& i see your sweeps coming in at various altitudes, ain't it better to try to combine them at equal altitudes? that is, fighters based at a given range from their target (+/- 1 hex) should be assigned to the same altitude.

hi mate.

All my P-47s are at 36k feet, while P-38s and Corsairs are at 31k...this is due to our HRs that fix the max altitude for fighters at their second best mnvr band.
So i would expect to see a decent mass of P-47s togheder, followed by a mass of Corsairs and P-38s...unfortunately it's not going to happen[:o]

[Cribtop]

GJ, this is totally shooting from the hip rather than anything I've thought out, but would there be value to using Paramushiro Jima as a logistics hub? Dump supplies and fuel there for distribution in theater and thus minimize danger to your SLoC and convoys?

[BPRE]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Anyway...i keep on having HEAVY synch problems...my replay is always waayyy out...[:(] can't find a way to solve this problem...

Hi GreyJoy,

Saw your comment about your synch problems. I'm involved in a PBEM in WitP and it after a turn with synch problems we synchronized our music/sound settings. After I changed one of mine and reran the Combat replay (I'm Allied too) we were in synch again.

Since AE might depend on the same mechanism as WitP it might be worth trying if you haven't already.

Regards
BPRE

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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In SOPAC we sunk some 3 more PBs that were trying to save the Russell Garisson...really don't understand this behaviour of Rader...[&:]

He forgot the Emperor's portrait and has to go back and fetch it....

[soticrandy]

Regarding his actions in the SoPac

Could he be trying to marsikova, or whatever, you by drawing your attention away from the main show?

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: soticrandy

Regarding his actions in the SoPac

Could he be trying to marsikova, or whatever, you by drawing your attention away from the main show?

I'm with crsutton ... somebody forgot the special autographed version with the registered seal of authenticity from the Franklin mint .. [:D]

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

It's a game after all and we all wanna have fun.

So we're gonna land at Honshu. i'm not saying we're landing tomorrow but not even in 1945. Somewhere in the next few months we'll be able to do so.

Just wanted to congratulate you on the decision to keep the game exciting.

I would like to recommend an alternate history novel I read many years ago as a primer to your invasion. Can't remember much detail or even if it was a good or bad book, but it IS appropriate to the subject matter at hand:

http://www.amazon.com/Burning-Mountain- ... 015114978X

[ny59giants]

In SOPAC we sunk some 3 more PBs that were trying to save the Russell Garisson...really don't understand this behaviour of Rader.

The fragment with the most Support squads is the parent unit. If the parent unit is still on the island, then he cannot rebuild the fragment until he gets enough Support within that unit. Fragment are not allow any rebuilding. So, he is trying to get enough of the Support squads from the unit on Russell to allow the fragment to change over to the parent unit when he recombines the fragments that he has already pulled out.

[cwDeici]

ORIGINAL: pat.casey

ORIGINAL: cwDeici

ORIGINAL: JeffK

As a counter to Nemo's push for an out and out offensive against aircraft factories.

Some of those airfields with " a 1000 fighters" look ripe for an attack, maybe an occasional diversion to smash an airbase might find it easier to smash fighters on the ground which may allow your bombers an easier run next day which in turn might see factories hit harder.

At a minimum it keeps rader wondering, there might be some well stocked airbases in a base without/very little industry which he hasnt covered properly.

Is this realistic? Did the US prosecute the war poorly, for it to have ended in 45?


Also, if Rader wants to make silly moves with his navy it should at least be to risk them in a strike against allied carriers (which I'm sure are very well protected and a bad idea to attack). It's -EV too, but a series of naval miracles are probably the most likely shot at survival.

Its Scenario 2, so its not supposed to be realistic, its a ++Japanese scenario.
Additionally, they're playing with PDU on and Japanese production on, both of which let a human player use hindsight to produce only the most effective Japanese airframes in high volume, concentrate research on only the "good stuff" and shift industrial production around to optimize the airforce.

The US, on the other hand, gets the historica in-theatre aircraft arrivals regardless of the situation on the map.

Thanks, I didn't know the specifics of why Scenario 2 was easier for Japan.
Actually though, what I meant was that I was wondering why it took America until 1945 to win with scenario 1, when many Japanese players find difficulty even with Scenario 2.

At the same time i know i don't wanna simply sit back and bomb. Not only because i think i cannot win this war simply by strat bombing...

I think everything I've heard a lot of people say strongly suggests you can win the game by strat bombing, but hell, I'm ALL for sieging Tokyo! RAWR!

[GreyJoy]

Another tiring partyin night....sorry my friends but i cannot update tonight...just to let you know that We wiped out 2 more Franks factories and we've start to load the first Eastern Kuriles invasion fleet...
 
Sorry...can't write more tonight...but hell was a funny night!!!
 
See u on the morrow
 
Night[:)]

[pws1225]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Another tiring partyin night....sorry my friends but i cannot update tonight...just to let you know that We wiped out 2 more Franks factories and we've start to load the first Eastern Kuriles invasion fleet...

Sorry...can't write more tonight...but hell was a funny night!!!

See u on the morrow

Night[:)]

Ha! Long live shubbery!

[JeffroK]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Another tiring partyin night....sorry my friends but i cannot update tonight...just to let you know that We wiped out 2 more Franks factories and we've start to load the first Eastern Kuriles invasion fleet...

Sorry...can't write more tonight...but hell was a funny night!!!

See u on the morrow

Night[:)]

Never apologise for having a real life.

Most of the old farts here will have forgotten what is was like to be young, thats the effect of drugs and booze from the 70's

Have fun.