PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel

[trollelite]

It seemed soviets are not as strong as those in small scenario "august storm"....

[PzB74]

A few enemy transports are left in the Sea of Japan with 1 APD having sailed into Vladivostok.
What can 1 APD bring there - supplies?? Can't sea the value of this...just nutters altogether.

Still can't get any of my ac to fly recon or strike mission against Soviet troops. Starting to fear
a bug...Soviet planes fly, that's for sure!

Some Soviet units are simple rifle divisions and not corps. Are they all supposed to upgrade?
If so, it could be foolish to use them prior to conversion?

I'm considering to gather 250 Shindens in one base instead of dispersing them.
So give me some good advice now, where should I put them?

Okinawas?
Home Island base?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/04/45

Air Combat

Air attack of Borneo!

Day Air attack on TF at 38,63

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Empire Rowan, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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These are against suicide transports in Sea of Japan.

Day Air attack on TF at 70,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK China Victory, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 69,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Henry L. Abott, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 69,35

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 17
G4M2 Betty x 6
P1Y Frances x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Ransom A. Moore, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

One last time our garrison at Lingayen repulses an enemy shock attack with heavy losses
to the attacker! [&o]

Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 134330 troops, 1218 guns, 400 vehicles, Assault Value = 2578

Defending force 46272 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 854

Allied max assault: 4450 - adjusted assault: 2177

Japanese max defense: 581 - adjusted defense: 557

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
699 casualties reported
Guns lost 20

Allied ground losses:
3082 casualties reported
Guns lost 85
Vehicles lost 14
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Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 23752 troops, 77 guns, 368 vehicles, Assault Value = 529

Defending force 7963 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 73

Allied max assault: 900 - adjusted assault: 397

Japanese max defense: 55 - adjusted defense: 21

Allied assault odds: 18 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
421 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
232 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 2
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[Kereguelen]

ORIGINAL: PzB

Some Soviet units are simple rifle divisions and not corps. Are they all supposed to upgrade?
If so, it could be foolish to use them prior to conversion?

Not every Soviet rifle divisions does upgrade, the intention of the upgrade is to give the Soviets the rifle corps (and mechanized and tank corps) that were historically available for the 'Autumn Storm' campaign in 1945. All upgrades should have happened in June 1945.

[PzB74]

Then I guess the Red Army should be at full strength!

Again, no recon or ground strike throughout Manchukuo against Red forces.
Seems like a bug to me. If this is the case the entire defensives bottom falls out.
By refusing me the only effective counter-measures there isn't much left for me to do.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/05/45

Surface Combat

Engaged 2 enemy ships in Sea of Japan with pooor results..

Night Time Surface Combat at 66,35

Japanese Ships
PC Ikino
PC Otsu
PC Urumi
PC Murotsu

Allied Ships
APD Harry L. Corl
AK Robert Neighbors
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Air Combat

A few strikes south of Borneo with mediocre torpedo bombers.

Day Air attack on TF at 37,61

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Alshain
AK Robin Wentley
AK Vermont
AK Cape Lookout, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 37,61

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Kailua, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 37,61

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Sheliak, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Lingayen falls after causing a lot of enemy casualties!

Ground combat at 64,23

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 89022 troops, 925 guns, 232 vehicles, Assault Value = 2285

Defending force 429 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Allied max assault: 5002 - adjusted assault: 6763

Japanese max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 6763 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Arshaan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 159871 troops, 2053 guns, 3720 vehicles, Assault Value = 5612

Defending force 66052 troops, 705 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 1288

Japanese ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29841 troops, 271 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 770

Defending force 3964 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Lingayen

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 131049 troops, 1109 guns, 380 vehicles, Assault Value = 2324

Defending force 44224 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 787

Allied max assault: 3654 - adjusted assault: 1915

Japanese max defense: 573 - adjusted defense: 391

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Lingayen base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
1038 casualties reported
Guns lost 23

Allied ground losses:
1324 casualties reported
Guns lost 29
Vehicles lost 4
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Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7250 troops, 196 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 644

Defending force 75907 troops, 147 guns, 114 vehicles, Assault Value = 1298

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 23828 troops, 77 guns, 371 vehicles, Assault Value = 530

Defending force 7112 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 71

Allied max assault: 900 - adjusted assault: 206

Japanese max defense: 51 - adjusted defense: 25

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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[PzB74]

Still not a single recon or bombing attack against Soviet bases. I'm very concerned now.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/06/45

Surface Combat

Sent some PCs into Vlad to intercept the remaining Allied suicide ships.
A bit better results this time!

Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33

Japanese Ships
PC PC-83, Shell hits 1
PC PC-104
PC PC-202
PC PC-204, Shell hits 2, on fire
PC PC-227

Allied Ships
APD Harry L. Corl, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Robert Neighbors
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Air Combat

Hundreds of incompetent Red AF bombers goes after our patrols.

Day Air attack on TF at 65,34

Allied aircraft
La-7 x 9
Yak-3 x 11
P-63A x 3
IL-2m3 Shturmovik x 12
Tu-2S x 18

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PC Ikino
PC Urumi
PC Murotsu
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Day Air attack on TF, near Vladivostok at 65,33

Allied aircraft
La-7 x 15
Yak-3 x 34
P-63A x 15
Tu-2S x 33

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PC PC-83
PC PC-204, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-227
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Some CAP over this TF. 200+ bombers hit only 3 PCs. Shturmoviks are the only
capable naval attack ac. No danger to send capital ships her!

Day Air attack on TF at 64,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 11

Allied aircraft
La-7 x 24
Yak-3 x 43
P-63A x 14
IL-2m3 Shturmovik x 33
Pe-2 x 91
Tu-2S x 97

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
La-7: 1 destroyed
Yak-3: 1 destroyed
P-63A: 2 destroyed
IL-2m3 Shturmovik: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PC PC-213
PC PC-200
PC PC-223
PC PC-124, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-80, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-198, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-89
PC PC-102
PC PC-196
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Ground Combat

Should be a major battle at Arshaan soon. Mountain terrain, 9 forts.
We have no tanks here. Holding back my armored reserve.

Ground combat at Arshaan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 159735 troops, 2046 guns, 3718 vehicles, Assault Value = 5610

Defending force 111158 troops, 1227 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 2255

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported
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Another couple of outposts fall.

Ground combat at Tsitsihar

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 89061 troops, 925 guns, 230 vehicles, Assault Value = 2290

Defending force 1701 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Allied max assault: 2978 - adjusted assault: 2016

Japanese max defense: 37 - adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 106 to 1 (fort level 8)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tsitsihar base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
206 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Sunwu

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 50252 troops, 743 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 1134

Defending force 1342 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Allied max assault: 2472 - adjusted assault: 1914

Japanese max defense: 20 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 1914 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied forces CAPTURE Sunwu base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
379 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
98 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Andy has no plan to reduce our troops in Bataan. Only left a small covering force.

Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7250 troops, 196 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 648

Defending force 76542 troops, 156 guns, 115 vehicles, Assault Value = 1329

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
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Allies are still suffering at Trimcomalee.

Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 23893 troops, 74 guns, 371 vehicles, Assault Value = 528

Defending force 6700 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 68

Allied max assault: 900 - adjusted assault: 303

Japanese max defense: 47 - adjusted defense: 15

Allied assault odds: 20 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
129 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 2
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Continuing to pursue remains of Chinese units into Red hinterland.

Ground combat at 59,22

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7375 troops, 84 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 155

Defending force 2392 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66

Japanese max assault: 163 - adjusted assault: 171

Allied max defense: 42 - adjusted defense: 10

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Red Air Force on Naval Attack

There are a lot of Red Army ac, but they don't inflict much damage.

[trollelite]

Good done, PZB!! I need some laugh, and Andy and his red army is VERY COMPETENT in that, at least...[:D]

[Rob Brennan UK]

Still not a single recon or bombing attack against Soviet bases. I'm very concerned now.

Why not post this oddity in the bugs/support forum , might help [&:]

[PzB74]

Today I tried sweeps over Okha from Shikka as well as bombing and recon units.
Didn't work either. No recon or air strikes on any other Soviet bases either despite clear weather.

I can send a turn to anyone who would like to make tests.
If I can't use my AF against the Red Army, Manchukuo is lost for sure.

Well, at least we managed to secure Okha-Sakalin today and add 400 oil and 300 resources to the Empire [8D]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/07/45

Surface Combat

More enemy ships sneak into Vlad. We hit a DE.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33

Japanese Ships
PC PC-104
PC PC-202, Shell hits 1, on fire
PC PC-227

Allied Ships
DE Gillette, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Robert Neighbors
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Air Combat

A few air strikes from Borneo:

Day Air attack on TF at 38,51

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 4

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 4 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 39,72

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK San Vincente
AK Cape Faro, Bomb hits 1
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Day Air attack on TF at 39,69

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Aurelia
AK Vermont
AK Tate, Bomb hits 1, on fire
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Ground Combat

I marched a division and a base force to Ohka. Despite some fatigue they managed
to capture the base together with the 1st Yokosuka SNLF Para unit.

Ground combat at Ohka - Sakalin

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 26437 troops, 254 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 553

Defending force 2574 troops, 14 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Japanese max assault: 439 - adjusted assault: 119

Allied max defense: 18 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Ohka - Sakalin base !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Li-2: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
3032 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 2
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Ground combat at Arshaan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 159683 troops, 2048 guns, 3716 vehicles, Assault Value = 5612

Defending force 111161 troops, 1229 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 2252

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43026 troops, 329 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 792

Defending force 3842 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Allied max assault: 732 - adjusted assault: 588

Japanese max defense: 37 - adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 147 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
697 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 23935 troops, 76 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 527

Defending force 6420 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 67

Allied max assault: 898 - adjusted assault: 507

Japanese max defense: 45 - adjusted defense: 17

Allied assault odds: 29 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
429 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 4
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Okha-Sakalin captured

[PzB74]

Here's a preview of what's on the cards for tomorrow;

Everyone pls say a prayer for good weather and coordination [&o]

[Gen.Hoepner]

Com'on com'on com'on!!!!!!
 
BANZAI!!!!
 
The HOLY WIND WILL SMILE UPON YOU!!!!

[PzB74]

Your enthusiastic Banzai brought results Hoepner, 2!!! Ohkas impacted after 150 failures!
Not only did they hit, they both slammed into a brand new Essex carrier [8D]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/08/45

Surface Combat

We continue to intercept enemy shipping in Vladivostok;

Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33

Japanese Ships
PC Ikino
PC Otsu
PC Urumi
PC Murotsu

Allied Ships
AK Robert Neighbors, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage
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Sub/ASW Attacks

I-46 has had its front torp tubes disabled for a long time. Bug prevents them from being
repaired. Gave this destroyer escort a close shave and sent her straight to the bottom!

Sub attack near Vladivostok at 65,33

Japanese Ships
SS I-46

Allied Ships
DE Gillette, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Air Combat

This time I sent all bombers to the Bonins 1 day prior to launching them.
Usually makes a big difference. A nice balanced strike, too bad some bombers got separated.
The entire convoy would have been in tatters if Iwo had also been open and if weather hadn't saved
the ships in the afternoon...bugger!

Day Air attack on TF at 65,58

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 27
G4M2 Betty x 41
G4M2e Betty x 6
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 43
Ki-100 Tony x 4
Ki-102a Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 28
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
Corsair IV x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 11 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 26 destroyed
G4M2e Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 37 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 4 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 2, on fire *2!! Ohka hits* Fuel storage explosion! [&o] [8D] [:D]
CV Hornet
CVL Cabot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire *Ammo storage explosion*
CL Topeka
CL Pensacola

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing - these Ohka units are highly experienced. Ca 80+
4 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing
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Day Air attack on TF at 65,58

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 24
G4M2e Betty x 2
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 21
Corsair IV x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M2e Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Charrette

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 68,24

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 49955 troops, 732 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 1131

Defending force 455 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied max assault: 2406 - adjusted assault: 2186

Japanese max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 2186 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 38998 troops, 302 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 858

Defending force 2717 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Allied max assault: 634 - adjusted assault: 323

Japanese max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 323 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
435 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Our garrison at Trimcomalee is on its last legs.

Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 23999 troops, 75 guns, 370 vehicles, Assault Value = 532

Defending force 5915 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Allied max assault: 918 - adjusted assault: 447

Japanese max defense: 34 - adjusted defense: 16

Allied assault odds: 27 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1141 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ohka strikes!

[Nemo121]

Well I'd say that that makes up for a lot of their failures. When Ohkas do hit they are devastating. I imagine that that Essex class CV is in serious trouble.

[trollelite]

2 ohka equals 5 type 91 torpedo I suppose.

[Honda]

Great news!!! But, I must warn that when got my Okhas to hit they were known to produce 1 sys or 1 fire damage and that's it. Someone should ask Andy what was the exact damage done to Lex2.

[trollelite]

No, 2 ohka equal 5 long lance and 12 1000lb bomb, this should be enough. If not, it would be very disgusting... I would consider stop that airplane all together.

[CapAndGown]

Did you check for OP losses to see if Andy lost some Hellcats or Corsairs? Might be indicative of the success of your strike.

[Terminus]

No! I mean, "everybody knows that Okhas are broken"...[8|][8|][8|]

[Fishbed]

...
now, that was a constructive comment Terminus...

[PzB74]

No serious OPs losses this turn! Guess we'll find out tomorrow.
If the ship is seriously damaged it will still be in range of our bombers! Only partially clouded weather reported for tomorrow and I
moved bombers to Pagan.

Still not sure what damage they can cause - have launched some 200 Ohkas without scoring a single hit.
This includes misses against crippled battleships sailing alone [8|]

So I still think Ohka's should have a higher hit % and not be dependend on motherplane exp.
All they have to do is survive long enough to launch the rocket and all Ohka pilots are pre-trained and should be fairly able to hit
their target. At least a 20-25% hit probability.

Got one 1 Ohka pilot left now.

What I've learned to do is to break up my Ohka carrying Bettys. Now I got several smaller units with high exp.
I mix them with ordinary Betty's and send them in.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: Fishbed

...
now, that was a constructive comment Terminus...

Yeah, about as "constructive" as every time somebody's whined about so-called "broken Okhas".