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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ORIGINAL: PzB

No serious OPs losses this turn! Guess we'll find out tomorrow.
If the ship is seriously damaged it will still be in range of our bombers! Only partially clouded weather reported for tomorrow and I
moved bombers to Pagan.

Still not sure what damage they can cause - have launched some 200 Ohkas without scoring a single hit.
This includes misses against crippled battleships sailing alone [8|]

So I still think Ohka's should have a higher hit % and not be dependend on motherplane exp.
All they have to do is survive long enough to launch the rocket and all Ohka pilots are pre-trained and should be fairly able to hit
their target. At least a 20-25% hit probability.

Got one 1 Ohka pilot left now.

What I've learned to do is to break up my Ohka carrying Bettys. Now I got several smaller units with high exp.
I mix them with ordinary Betty's and send them in.

I would think that the Okha would have been quite difficult to steer, what with its high speed and relatively limited control surfaces. Sort of like the Kaiten; it's no good having a big fist if you can't land a punch.
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The best we can do is calculate average hit probability for those who were launched and scored hits.
Numbers launched divided on number of hits.

Operational history

March 21, 1945 — Sixteen Ohka-carrying Betty G4M2e mother ships were to be escorted by 55 Zeros to attack Task Group 58.1 (Hornet, Bennington, Wasp, Belleau Wood). Another two Bettys were to escort and provide navigation and observation. Due to technical problems, all but 30 zeros have to turn back or cannot take off. The Ohka attack force is intercepted by 50 F6F Hellcats and the Ohkas are immediately jettisoned by the Bettys some 70 miles (113 km) from the target. None of the Bettys return, no ships are attacked, 16 of the Jinrai Butai are dead, and only 15 damaged Zeros make it back.

April 1 1945 — Six Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. At least one makes a successful attack, with its Ohka hitting one of the 16" (406 mm) turrets on the West Virginia, causing moderate damage. Alpine, Achernar, and Tyrrell are also hit by kamikaze aircraft, but it is unclear whether any of these were Ohkas from the other Bettys. None of the Bettys return.

April 12 1945 — Nine Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Mannert L. Abele is hit, breaks in two, and sinks. Jeffers destroys an Ohka with AA fire 50 yards (45 m) from the ship, but the resulting explosion is still powerful enough to cause extensive damage, forcing Jeffers to withdraw. Stanly is targeted by two Ohkas. One strikes just above the waterline, with the charge punching through the other side of the hull before detonating, causing little damage to the ship, and the other Ohka narrowly missed and crashed into the sea, knocking off the Stanly's ensign in the process. One Betty returns.

April 14 1945 — Seven Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. None return. None of the Ohkas appear to have been launched.

April 16 1945 — Six Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Two return, but no Ohkas hit their targets.

April 28 1945 — Four Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa at night. One returns. No hits.

May 4 1945 — Seven Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. One Ohka hits the bridge of Shea, causing extensive damage and casualties. Vessel judged beyond repair. Gayety is also damaged by a near-miss by an Ohka. One Betty returns.

May 11 1945 — Four Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Hugh W. Hadley is hit, suffers extensive damage and flooding. Vessel judged beyond repair.

May 25 1945 — Eleven Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Bad weather forces most of the aircraft to turn back, and none of the others score hits.

June 22 1945 — Six Bettys attack the US Fleet off Okinawa. Two return, but no hits were scored.
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The real life hit ratio is way better than what I've managed so far!
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From Andy:

"Lex is out of the rest of the war but probably wont sink 50 sys, 40 floot 30 fires allied DC will ‘probably keep her afloat but that’s a lot of damage for 2 hits."
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Still no luck with ground attacks. Switching to airfield attacks altogether.
Should be easier...if possible at all.

Slowly building the pool of Reppus and Shindens that is needed to last throughout the war.
If we can build 2000 of each over the next 4 months we will have enough to last.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/09/45

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33

Japanese Ships
PC PC-104
PC PC-227

Allied Ships
AK Robert Neighbors, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Vladivostok at 65,33

Japanese Ships
PC Ikino
PC Otsu
PC Urumi
PC Murotsu

Allied Ships
APD Harry L. Corl, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
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Air Combat

Andy sent some bombers from Soviet bases to hit Jap targets in Korea to try to trigger
some sort of Jap air activation...

Day Air attack on Pyongyang , at 59,34

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

No Allied losses

Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1
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Formosa was his by several heavy strikes today. I've moved all fighters out. Too close to
2000 enemy LBA fighters.

Day Air attack on Taichu , at 49,43

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
F-5C Lightning x 3
PB4Y Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 8
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Day Air attack on Takao , at 48,45

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 5
F-5A Lightning x 4
F-5C Lightning x 4
B-24J Liberator x 241

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 58
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 439
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All US B-29s were sent against the Marianas to disrupt our air units there.
The enemy convoys heading past the Bonins fled head over heels and appeared next to Pagan!

Day Air attack on Pagan , at 64,62

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 188

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 19 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 2 destroyed
A6M8 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 161
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Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 72

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 93
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Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 332

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 56
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 565
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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 3 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 62
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The small strike from Pagan got through with 2 Bettys...unfortunately no hits.

Day Air attack on TF at 63,62

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 21
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
Corsair IV x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 28 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Hornet

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Arshaan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 245315 troops, 2983 guns, 3930 vehicles, Assault Value = 5613

Defending force 122116 troops, 1310 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 2410

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Chiamussu

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 21330 troops, 441 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3711

Defending force 1613 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 35

Allied max assault: 734 - adjusted assault: 1444

Japanese max defense: 36 - adjusted defense: 10

Allied assault odds: 144 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied forces CAPTURE Chiamussu base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 46602 troops, 368 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 855

Defending force 1917 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Allied max assault: 788 - adjusted assault: 780

Japanese max defense: 11 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 780 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Bataan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7255 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 724

Defending force 77956 troops, 172 guns, 112 vehicles, Assault Value = 1388

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reporte
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Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 25143 troops, 109 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 548

Defending force 5050 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Allied max assault: 510 - adjusted assault: 221

Japanese max defense: 24 - adjusted defense: 9

Allied assault odds: 24 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
384 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Still no luck with ground attacks. Switching to airfield attacks altogether.

From my experience, ground attack missions will not fly if they are conducted from the same base as AF attack missions AND over the same target.

Most of the time I don't read CRs in detail so I'm not sure if this is the problem here, but it might be worth looking at.

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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have only ordered only ground/AF strikes from our bases - so this should not be a problem either...
No air strikes today either. Just a new 'issue' as Russian troops apparently 'pass through'Arshaan.

Told Andy that I cannot continue to fight in Manchukuo with the current issues.
If he does not halt his offensive I may have to withdraw all troops into China in order to prevent their
destruction.

WitP is giving me a lot of functional problems right now and I must admit that the cost of playing an
old stock game are getting a bit high. Personally I would like to see all combat in Manchukuo halted for now.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/10/45

Air Combat

Luzon - Okinawas

Batan Island is continously pounded.

Day Air attack on Batan Island , at 47,47

Allied aircraft
Mosquito B.XXVI x 15
P-40N Warhawk x 27
A-26B Invader x 197

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 150
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An all out effort against Kadina (Okinawas). We had no CAP here.

Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 55

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 346

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 12 destroyed
C6N Myrt: 2 destroyed
A7M2 Reppu: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
346 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Airbase hits 42
Airbase supply hits 25
Runway hits 353
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Day Air attack on Kadina , at 54,45

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 7
F-5C Lightning x 7
PB4Y Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 238
B-29 Superfortress x 240

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
316 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Port hits 13
Port fuel hits 20
Port supply hits 19
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Central Pacific

Marianas were pounded again:

Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Reppu: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 50
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We got one chance at finishing the crippled Lexington...the inexperienced kami crews
did not take it.

Day Air attack on TF at 65,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, heavy damage
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India

No CAP over Andaman. Used the opportunity to send in some TBDs!

Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 18
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Morris, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Eaton
DD Cowell
DD Heywood Edwards
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 25392 troops, 116 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 565

Defending force 4391 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Allied max assault: 518 - adjusted assault: 174

Japanese max defense: 24 - adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 43 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
2197 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
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Troops at San Marcelino are destroyed!

Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33976 troops, 292 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 579

Defending force 1549 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Allied max assault: 521 - adjusted assault: 567

Japanese max defense: 3 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 567 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
5042 casualties reported
Guns lost 26

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Trimcomalee
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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perhaps he landed paras there?
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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A mech corps landing in paras? [:D]

Andy tells me that he ordered the Mech corps to march from Arshaan to another base:
"I was pulling some armour/mech while leaving forces to cover it out of Arshaan and was going to leave you sitting on top of your mountain with your x 12 defensive multiplier I ordered the troops to move to a base on another axis of advance intending it to move North then East along the road.

BUT

the shortest route between two bases is SOUTH so the AI sent them through your forces along the rail line its an issue of road v rail unfortunately.

So I can fix it in a couple of turns by ordering the forces back North and I will move forces 1 unit at a time.
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This sounds a bit weirdo to me, but the ground combat system isn't always 100% perfect [8|]

Further Andy informs that he will march the Mech corps back around Arshaan and that his only real objective is Harbin and that he's assembling all his troops for an all out assault here.
After it falls he'll be happy enough to close down the entire Manchukuo theatre.

I'm wondering if I should accept this. I can muster many troops for an all out stand at Arshaan - but it's no real point
if my air force doesn't want to fly. If I could interdict enemy troops with all my available LBA it could maybe be possible to
halt the Reds.

Harbin with its 200 Shindens produced pr month is a valuable target, but we produce more than 600 pr month and the pool is growing.

Ahh, this is getting frustrating
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I really get the feeling that the game is just coded against Japanese in the programe, too frequent to described as "random factor" only....
 
We all talk about history accuracy, but I wonder if there is a more balanced grand scenario, then those so-called "history accurate" scenario would be played anymore. If there is an option, to say, "turn off japanese asw incompetence", and you, as allies player, don't want to accept it? Well, go and find some others who enjoy to be whipped! There are tons of willing allies players, but few want to take japanese side, and even fewer who is qualified to do so. If you don't believe this, simply read those posts in the opponent want forum.
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Personally speaking if you are running into a bug in which no air action is possible then the absolute minimum that AndyMac should do is agree to simply stand down the entire Red Air Force and agree not to base ANY Allied planes out of their bases. It is silly to pretend this is any sort of reasonable "game" when you can't launch attacks and he can.
 
Ideally he'd stand the whole theatre down but I doubt he will do this... He wants to win and he has made so many mistakes with his CVs and amphibious landings that now this may be his only option for a guaranteed win within the timeframe.
 
 
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Agree. Ask for a stop of the air ops in that theatre
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ahh PzB didn't realised that was Mech corps...[:D]...

i suggest game on hold until experts solve (lets hope) this problem... I'm not for such hybrid solution as Nemo121 proposed...

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Regarding the ground movement, I have experienced something similar in my PBEM. As japanese I have surrounded 80k allied troops in Darwin. I had tank regiments on all hexes around it just to be sure that enemy will not retreat to wilderness, but made a mistake and sent the tank regiment sitting on the railway south of Darwin to the city to join my 3 divisons there and launched shock attack. I thought the "J" is satisfying to prevent allied movement from shared hex. In the same turn my oponent tried to order retreat with the target base Charters Towers. And it WORKED!!! Despite the fact that half of the railway between Darwin and Charter Towers was in my hands (signed by two NLF advancing to Charter Towers to "J"). The Darwin was taken, as there were no defenders, because the whole enemy force marched south to the "J" hex in the same moment as my 100k troops attacked north. Somehow it happened they didn´t meet each other :-) We just changed the positions and now it was me, who was surrounded in Darwin with 2 australian division blocking the railway.. my reaction was "WTF!!!!"..
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Do you think the experten will have time to fiddle with the code on this so close to December 7th?
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Thanx for the input guys!

The reason why I'm not too keen on just standing down all air ops and go on with the show is that
Manchukuo is the _one_ theater were Japan has complete air supremacy. We will loose a lot of points from not
destroying  the Red AF, bombing resources, industry and interdicting enemy LCU. The latter is vital to slow the Red Steam Roller down
and maybe inflict enough fatigue and disruption to tip the scale in our favor in THE most important battle (e.g. for Harbin).

We've already lost valuable time, for 10 days the AF should have been pounding ground units and hitting Red airfields.
Have to reach an agreement with Andy about what to do....
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Tooooooo baaaaaad to say good bye to andy's red army so soooooon.......[:(][:D]
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Andy came with some suggestions and I sent mine back.
In short;

We will fight for Harbin without air forces.
The Red Air Force will stand down.

If Harbin falls I will retreat the Manchukuo Armies to Korea and then we will stand down all further combat.
Andy suggested that no army units should be moved out of Manchukuo but I said that my Southern Area Army units
have been moved to Manchukuo to defend Harbin. If Harbin falls I would like to be able to move them back to the Home Islands.

A compromise with a stand off at Harbin in other words. I _know_ I can't hold - but will not yield without a fight.
The good thing for me is that all of my Manchukuo Army will not be squashed even if I loose....and the Armored reserve will come
in handy in the Home Islands.

Can't say I'm really happy about this...
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Seems like I'm able to move troops from Arshaan even though there are numerous Red Army troops to the SE.
Just like the AI doesn't know that Japan is at war with the USSR...only that the USSR is at war with Japan [8|]

I'm moving our Air units out of Manchukuo - they will come in handy in the Home Islands. 150 Shindens and 150 Franks
as well as 500 level bombers will be made available.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/11/45

Air Combat

Heavy air strikes against Batan Island, Formosa and Okinawas.
We hit some Allied ships at Andamans and south of Bonins:

Day Air attack on TF at 59,59

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 13
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 5
Ki-100 Tony x 6
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Alfred L. Baxley
AK Redstone Seam, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 66,65

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 5
B7A Grace x 14

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 18
F4U-1D Corsair x 12
Corsair IV x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 5 destroyed
B7A Grace: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Ralph Talbot
DD DeHaven
DD Eaton
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Day Air attack on TF at 57,60

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Clarksdale Victory
AK Gus W. Darnell
AK Elwin F. Knowles
AK Henry T. Scott, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK Frank E. Spencer
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
LCI(G) LCI(G)-462, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Ida M. Tarbell, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Cowell
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
P1Y Frances x 4
Ki-67 Peggy x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 damaged
P1Y Frances: 4 damaged
Ki-67 Peggy: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Cowell
DD Ralph Talbot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Morris, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 64,25

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 185229 troops, 2189 guns, 338 vehicles, Assault Value = 4499

Defending force 167 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied max assault: 9560 - adjusted assault: 4434

Japanese max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 4434 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Our last troops at Trim are liminated...

Ground combat at Trimcomalee

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 25717 troops, 120 guns, 372 vehicles, Assault Value = 617

Defending force 2084 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Allied max assault: 536 - adjusted assault: 268

Japanese max defense: 7 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 268 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
3253 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
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Enemy Carriers that provided support for supply ships turned about to protect the crippled carrier sister,
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RE: 2 Ohkas hit Essex carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Battle For Harbin

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
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