Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[LORDPrometheus]

Can we get the Mexican Reformador Class?

Its a Sigma variant with a slightly longer hull than the Indonesian 10514 type.
It is reported as having an improved power-plant and extended range although its speed is still listed at 28 knots.
Armament consists of a single RAM launcher on the aft deck, a 57mm Bofors gun forward, two quad harpoon launchers amidships, two Mk32 triple torpedo tubes on the flanks and an 8 cell mk56 VLS launcher firing ESSM.
There are no other weapons listed but the sale form approved by Congress includes a large number of 25mm bushmaster rounds so it is likely that the final design will also include 2 remote Bushmasters.

Sensor systems are identical to the baseline Sigma 10514 with the exception of Indra being contracted to supply the ship with the RIGEL ECM/ESM system instead of the Scorpion system on the Indonesian ships.

The first vessel was commissioned November 23, 2018.

All the sources i could find
https://www.janes.com/article/82321/mex ... w-missiles
https://navaltoday.com/2018/04/18/mexic ... se-system/
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/m ... -torpedoes
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... 80%9D.html

[anlgzl]

Hi,

Do you have any chance to check the south korean navy's "Incheon-class frigate" weapon loadout. I think they made some changes and added land attack missiles to this class.

According to DB3000 "batch 1" frigates has got 4 x 2 SSM-700K Haeseong anti-ship missiles. But when you check the links below they have changed the loadout to 4 x 2 SSM-700K Haeseong anti-ship missiles + 4 x 2 Haeseong Tactical Land Attack Missiles.

links "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incheon-class_frigate", "https://www.instagram.com/p/Buu0PMTHxHh/", "https://www.instagram.com/p/BucbYxDHRQG/",

[Ancalagon451]

Errata: All LJDAM variants but the earliest one (Mk.82 USAF 2008) are lacking their Laser Spot Trackers while still retaining Anti-Surface Capability.

Ancalagon

[BDukes]

Hello

Please adjusts Qatar AH-64E in-service data. They just got first delivery (real IOC probably 2020)

https://twitter.com/abdulmoiz1990/statu ... 8423773184

Oh and APKWS integration

https://www.janes.com/article/79133/qat ... h-apkws-ii

[BDukes]

Hi

Look like Iranese just commission Fateh submarine (#450) this year (2019). Please adjust date when can.

https://www.janes.com/article/86533/ira ... -submarine

Thank!

[BDukes]

Hi

Infos on APKWS integration. Probably major power entries more important

USMC F/A-18 A/C/D

https://www.janes.com/article/79453/usm ... -18-hornet

Current integrated on Marine AH-1 Cobras, UH-1Y Venoms and Navy MH-60S. (see last paragraphs link below)

https://www.janes.com/article/37593/apkws-on-target

https://twitter.com/NavyRecognition/sta ... 2953885696

So add loadout #3713 MH-60S. Cobra's and Venoms have already thanks.

AV-8B have in db so good.

USAF.

Look like A-10 and F-16 2016

https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... d-rockets/

https://twitter.com/FranticGoat/status/ ... 8571499520

Look like other are Dutch AH-64 and Nigerian Super Tucano

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/bae-to- ... d-nations/

https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contracts/ ... e/1750408/

Lebanon too.

https://www.janes.com/article/86372/leb ... ws-rockets

Thank!

[ARCNA442]

Could we get SM-6 Block IB in the database? It's a planned upgrade of SM-6 that uses the 21" motor of SM-3 Block IIA for extended range.

This weapon could be extremely important for near future scenarios as it would radically changes the US Navy's defensive and offensive (the Navy classifies it as a "long range hypersonic strike" weapon) capabilities.

Sources:
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL33745.pdf (second paragraph of the block quote on page 6)
https://www.secnav.navy.mil/fmc/fmb/Doc ... 0Brief.pdf (top two lines of the bottom left hand corner on page 16

[FTBSS]

Increase Range of Spy 6 Radar based on same source above radar range of 1000KM minimum

[LORDPrometheus]

Where did you hear that? The AN/SPY-6 is not an OTH radar so there is no way it could see that far. If it's power levels are twice what is believed it may be able to push 600km for high flying jumbo jets but even ground based radars which have much lower power limitations can't reach 1000km without being surface wave.

[FTBSS]

Its in the post right above mines source.

At the top of page 11

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL33745.pdf

[bearhunter007]

Just working up a Scenario involving the Taruntal V class boats of Vietnam. I noticed that they have only 10 or so tons of fuel vs the earlier boats having 50 tons of fuel. They should have a range of 1700 nm.

Here is a link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul- ... 8_'Molniya'

Thanks

[ARCNA442]

ORIGINAL: FTBSS

Increase Range of Spy 6 Radar based on same source above radar range of 1000KM minimum

Good catch there (the quote is in the first paragraph of page 11 for anyone looking for it).

Looking through the CMANO database, many of the US phased arrays could probably use some work:

SPY-1 - 175nm (12' array)
SPY-3 - 175nm (7x9' array)
SPY-4 - 250nm (13' array)
AMDR - 250nm (14' array)
EASR - 250nm (6' array)

There is simply no way that SPY-4, AMDR, and EASR all have the same range.

EASR should have the roughly the same range as SPY-1. Raytheon describes it as "comparable in sensitivity to the current radar on today's destroyers."

AMDR should have its range increased to at least 350nm if not the 500nm of the quote FTBSS found. Raytheon's description says it "can see a target half the size at twice the distance of radars on today's navy destroyers."

SPY-4 should probably have less range than AMDR, since it is a slightly smaller array that uses older technology.

SPY-3 having the same range as SPY-1 and EASR is believable, given it is between them in both size and technology.

AMDR and EASR also should be renamed in the CMANO database. They are currently listed as "AN/SPY-6 AMDR" and "AN/SPY-X EASR." They should be named "AN/SPY-6(V)1" and "AN/SPY-6(V)3" respectively (AN/SPY-6(V)2 is the rotating single-face EASR for the amphibious ships).

There is also a plan for backfitting a 12' diameter SPY-6 variant to the Flight IIA destroyers that could be interesting to add to the database.



Source for quotes on EASR and AMDR: https://www.raytheon.com/sites/default/ ... ic-pdf.pdf

Source for sizes of SPY-3 and SPY-4:
http://www.aofs.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... -radar.pdf

Source for AMDR and EASR names and Flight IIA upgrade:
http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20190315-Spy.html

[Broncepulido]

SPY-1 range 175 nm was a typo dragged for years from the Harpoon DB affecting in cascade a lot of other naval radar range values, the pretended real value was range 275 nm.

Range for SPY-1/A/B/B(V)/D should be the same, range of SPY-1D(V) should be increased about 10%-15%.

SPY-3 radar range should be substantially shorter, 175 nm can be a good value.

[KC45]

Now AAM-4B(DBID1199) got CEC-capability but only F-15J (2017) has that transmitter for CEC. So right now The CEC-capability is kind of useless for a lot of scenarios.
Please give CEC-Capable AAM-4 command datalink for aircraft listed below.
F-15J(2010,DBID2465),F-15DJ (2010,DBID3383),F-15DJ (2017,DBID3384),F-2A(2015,DBID4300),F-2A(2018,DBID346),F-2B(2015,DBID4301),F-2B(2018,DBBID3378)

And for the bump, extend the range of ASM-1C. I really need it, and affect a lot of scenario.
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Thanks

[Talisman]

Hi guys,

When you have a gap, please consider making the following modifications to the South African Submarine entries:

UPDATE EXISTING ENTRY #9
S 101 Manthatisi [Type 209-1400 Heroine] -- South Africa (Navy), 2006-
- Remove Porpoise ELINT
- Remove FAS 3-1 Flank Array
- Remove S 63B Radar
- Add Scanter 1024 Radar
- Add 2x TAU-2000 DL (2 rather than the standard 4 launcher fit, 1x port, 1x stbd, 10 tubes per launcher), 5x CIRCE Jammers and 5x CIRCE Decoys per launcher
- Add Generic LLTV 3rd Gen (fitted to OMS 100 Optronic Mast)
- Add advanced propulsor to properties (low noise skew-back screw)
NOTE: that these boats are specially fitted for SF support with submerged diver lock-out facilities and casing stowage spaces for equipment including various boats (collapsable canoes, inflatable Zodiac raiders) ideally the boats should be able to carry a variety of SF teams from South Africa's 4 Special Forces Regiment (seaborne), such as:
- 2x 3-man attack diver teams (zodiac inflatable / swimming)
- 3x 2-man sea-landed recce teams (collapsable canoe)
- 2x 4-man sea-landed recce/offensive teams (zodiac inflatable)

UPDATE EXISTING ENTRY #73 (Spans CWDB and DB3000...?)
S 97 Maria van Riebeeck [Daphne] -- South Africa (Navy), 1971, Renamed Spear in 1999
- Change Name to: S 97 Maria van Riebeeck [Daphne] -- South Africa (Navy), 1971-1988, AS DELIVERED
- Increase diesel fuel quantity by 25% (soon after delivery the SAN Daphnes were fitted with additional bunkers to extend their radius of action)
- Remove Generic ESM [simple]
- Add ARUR 10B ESM
- Remove DUUA 1A
- Remove DUUA 2A
- Add DUUA 1B
NOTE: that these boats are specially fitted for SF support with casing stowage spaces for equipment including various boats (collapsable canoes, inflatable Zodiac raiders) ideally the boats should be able to carry a variety of SF teams from South Africa's 4 Reconnaisance Regiment (seaborne), such as:
- 2x 3-man attack diver teams (zodiac inflatable / swimming)
- 3x 2-man sea-landed recce teams (collapsable canoe)
- 2x 4-man sea-landed recce/offensive teams (zodiac inflatable)

UPDATE EXISTING ENTRY #500
S 97 Maria van Riebeeck [Daphne] -- South Africa (Navy), 1989-2003, Renamed Spear in 1999
- As above, including:
- Change Name to: S 97 Maria van Riebeeck [Daphne] -- South Africa (Navy), 1989-1996, PROJECT RAKA FIT
- Increase battery quantity by 10% (New, improved, locally developed batteries fitted)
- Increase Max submerged speed by 10% (New, improved, locally developed batteries fitted)
- Reduce OODA cycle at all levels by 20%, factor of 0.8 of baseline Daphne (to reflect new locally developed digital combat suite, action information system and weapons control)

NEW ENTRY
S 98 Emily Hobhouse [Daphne] -- South Africa (Navy), 1997-2003, PROJECT FANTAIL (NICKLES) FIT
- As above, including:
- Reduce OODA cycle at all levels by a further 20%, factor of 0.6 of baseline Daphne (to reflect further upgrades to locally developed digital combat suite, action information system and weapons control)
- Remove ARUR 10B ESM
- Add Shrike (UME-100) ESM
- Remove DSUV-2
- Add UEC Hull Passive Search and Track (1990's tech, 15nm, medium frequency, underwater & surface search)
- Remove DUUX-2A
- Add UEC Passive Ranging Flank Array (1990's tech, 15nm, range info, underwater & surface search)
- Remove DUUG-1A
- Add UEC Acoustic Intercept Array (1990's tech, 40nm, triple transducer array)
- Add Add Generic LLTV 2rd Gen (fitted to upgraded M41 search periscope)
- Add following weapons to 8x 550mm TT Mount: 1x SUT Mod 264 (forward 8 tubes only)
- Add torpedo wire control (2 wires) to comms / datalinks
- Reduce Max Depth to -250m (the hulls were getting old)

Thanks guys, as always I really appreciate the effort!

[BDukes]

Please add Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2. Look like vanilla Turkish version so copies #4736.

https://defence-blog.com/news/ukraine-a ... urkey.html

https://twitter.com/andrii_sybiha/statu ... 7610516480

Thank!

[BDukes]

DB3K 477 Error Fix

Duplicate entry or data entry issue for 2012 Israeli Black 30 and 40 Barak's. If you look in DB list they appear twice. Look same.

#4780-#4783.

Perhaps upgrade but not finish?

No big one. Thanks for updates!

[LORDPrometheus]

First of all thank you for adding the F-15X but i noticed a small issue. The current entry is using the AN/APG-63(V)3 however the actual plane is going to be using the AN/APG-82(V)1 just like the latest Strike Eagle versions.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... -new-f-15/

The reason for this radar choice is twofold

1: Raytheon never produced enough AN/APG-63(V)3 for the existing F-15C fleet and until the F-15X is in service the Air force is not going to start retiring the old air frames and tanking their radars so there simply are not enough around for a new plane when the production line is already closed.

2: The AN/APG-82(V)1 is a newer and superior radar that is in active production for newer F-15E variants being sold to other countries so it is avaliable and already largely integrated into the platform as well as being all around better.

While its not beyond belief that the Air force will pull an F-16 and not upgrade to the more modern radar they simply don't have any of the old radars and this is a new airframe not a refurb and upgrade

[ARCNA442]

I just noticed that medium UAV's are way too stealthy.

For example, the radar signature of the RQ-1 is -19.1 / -29.1 dBsm, which is virtually identical to that of the F-35 (-19.2 / -29.2 dBsm).

The larger MQ-9 is -15.9 / -25.9 dBsm, which is still better than the F-117 (-15.1 / -25.1 dBsm).

These figures should probably be closer to those of the similarly-sized Tucano (2.9 / 2.9 dBsm) or Super Tucano (3.6 / 3.6 dBsm).

Even the much smaller Cessna 152 has a signature of 0.9 / 0.9 dBsm.

[Broncepulido]

because those inconsistences I'M very incapable to play Command CMANO: