Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR)

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

The turn report refreshes itself and can lead to inconsistent results; the battle reports are more accurate if this happens.

Ok, then I will check those when I see abnormal low results on the losses report. Thank you once more [&o]

Terje

[terje439]

Turn 131 aka slugfest

Overall
Although there are no more attacks this turn than the previous ones, this turn is savage. Losses are reported as;
Axis : 78.000 soldiers and 310 AFVs
USSR : 133.000 soldiers and no less than 915 AFVs (alot of whihc are T-34s) [X(]
After seing these numbers I went to see my active T-34 pool, and was happy to see it ended the turn at 8.335.
To achieve such numbers, we launched 23 attacks for 3 held and 20 retreats, while the Axis scored 1 held, 7 retreats and 2 routs for a total of 10 attacks. Two of the Axis retreat results just drives me further into the "rifle corps or bust"-camp (sole inhabitant, me) as two rifle divisions (CV of 3 both) are attacked by RUMANIANS!!! across the Don and retreat...

171.000 workers report to the manpower pool this turn, so it ends at 4.891.

Units
One rifle corps is formed this turn, and we order the construction of 4 rifle divisions and 2 rifle brigades. Our forces grows by 44.000 despite heavy losses this turn. Let us hope this slugging keeps on, in terms of manpower I can take it.

Partisans
A mere 5 supply drops are made, yet the 33 active units, that remain after 5 are chased away, manage to perform 18 sabotague missions.

[Flaviusx]

You will burn him out in 2-3 months at this rate, and yes, you can afford these losses. He cannot.

Keep slugging away. You're behind schedule, but if you reduce the Wehrmacht to ants and cooks and clerks, you may yet make up for lost time.

[juret]

u have 8.335.t-34 1942 in your pool?
basicly u make 600 afv per turn, realy good. start use em in units or burn em up and make losses for axis.

how many heawy tanks u got in pool?
dude start make some tank SU and divide. easy way to raise CV. u dont just need tank corps, make medium and heawy tank SU.

german tank production is like 100 ? at this time in game. try keep hes lossses of tanks above new production and hes tank units cant replenish and will looose cv. Hes inf already weaker then yours.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

You will burn him out in 2-3 months at this rate, and yes, you can afford these losses. He cannot.

Keep slugging away. You're behind schedule, but if you reduce the Wehrmacht to ants and cooks and clerks, you may yet make up for lost time.

Still, was coffee all over my screen when I opened the losses screen [:D]
Will do my best, but the question now seems more, how long will he keep on attacking, allowing me to get such numbers.


Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: juret

1. u have 8.335.t-34 1942 in your pool?
2. basicly u make 600 afv per turn, realy good. start use em in units or burn em up and make losses for axis.

3. how many heawy tanks u got in pool?
4. dude start make some tank SU and divide. easy way to raise CV. u dont just need tank corps, make medium and heawy tank SU.

5. german tank production is like 100 ? at this time in game. try keep hes lossses of tanks above new production and hes tank units cant replenish and will looose cv.
6. Hes inf already weaker then yours.

1. Well I HAD, shouldbe somewhat less now [:D]

2. Oh I do, I have tank corps, cav corps, mech corps, and tank-SUs that all use them, I just try to not get in such a situation as pictured above, since I think that almost 250 of my lost AFVs were a "waste" occuring only because I placed the wrong unit in the wrong hex.

3. Will check next turn.

4. I have for quite some time, but this is the first time in ages I am at a point where I occasionally have spare points. Most of my guards have atleast one tank SU attached.

5. I am always targeting any German mech/panzer division that can be attacked with a chance to succeed, but if he stacks 3 Panzer divisions together, they become The Untouchables

6. His infantry divisions are weaker than my infantry corps, that is true, but my divisions still run from Rumanians...


Terje

[terje439]

Turn 132

Overall
Another turn with heavy losses on both sides. The Axis only launch 4 attacks this turn, and that sets off all sorts of alarms in my head. Is he up to something? Nevertheless, all his attacks score a retreat as result. We launch 25 attacks and gain 7 held and 18 retreats. Once more I see more 1.9 : 1 than I want to [:@].
As the reports are completed, losses are listed as;
Axis : 72.000 troops and 283 AFVs
USSR : 134.000 soldiers and 600 AFVs
As a total of 179.000 workers arrive at the manpower pool, it ends at 12.825 this turn.

Units
Another 7 aerial units are given some rest, 5 TACs, 1 TRS and 1 LB. It seems the TACs are really unhappy about something...
We form yet another rifle corps, and order the creation of 2 rifle divisions, 1 rifle brigade and 3 rocket launcher divisions this turn.
Our forces continue to grow, this turn by 40.000 soldiers.

Units Shattered
1st Rumanian Infantry Division is shattered this turn.

Do you think I...
Have produced enough AA units (see below) [:D][:D]

Partisans
The 28 active units, that are left after 15 units are chased away by the Axis, manage 12 sabotague actions this turn. Due to longer ranges as well as a few TRS units in the reserves, we only manage 6 supply drops this turn.

[juret]

u got to many flames tanks produce 12 each turn and have almost 800 in 4 units. flame tanks are good SU for guard inf corps fighting other inf.

[M60A3TTS]

Will you post another OOB please?

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Will you post another OOB please?

Sure, from the start of turn 129

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: juret

u got to many flames tanks produce 12 each turn and have almost 800 in 4 units. flame tanks are good SU for guard inf corps fighting other inf.

Yes, I noticed that as well, guess I will have to make some more of those,

Terje

[randallw]

Just try not to have too many of those flame tanks killed per turn.  That production rate of 12 will not go up, no matter how many you get killed. [:D]

[Texasgrunt]

Are you having any luck wearing downthe LW air force? not the transports and recon planes - the fighters and bombers. Continuing arifield attacks eventually wear them down.

[terje439]

Turn 133 aka turning it up even more

Overall
The fierce fighting continues, and the Axis pays a heavy price this turn.
The Axis launch a total of 10 attacks for 2 held and 8 retreats, while we manage 26 attacks for 1 held and 25 retreats. 2 of the retreats were "chain-attacks" on a panzer and a mechanized division, those should be in need of some R&R now.
The loss report claims;
Axis : 90.000 troops and 476 AFVs
USSR : 122.000 troops and 399 AFVs
The manpower pool ends at 1.881 this turn after reciving 185.000 workers.

Units
This turn I could not afford to send any planes to rest as a small situation threathened to take place in the Moscow sector (in the end we more or less broke a few panzer divisions instead [:D]). I form 2 rifle corps and order the construction of 2 rifle divisions and 1 rifle brigade. I then spen 11 points on SUs.
Our forces manage to grow by 61.000 despite heavy losses.

Units destroyed
The German 702 SP Infantry Gun Company is no more.

OOB
Just so you can compare between two turns, OOB attached this turn as well.

Partisans
The Axis keep attacking our partisans, and force 11 units to retreat this turn. This leaves 26 active at the end of the turn. These guys manage 21 sabotague actions, and are rewarded with 7 supply drops.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: randallw

Just try not to have too many of those flame tanks killed per turn.  That production rate of 12 will not go up, no matter how many you get killed. [:D]

Ahhh, but losing LOTS of tanks in one turn is THE thing I am good at [:D]


Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Texasgrunt

Are you having any luck wearing downthe LW air force? not the transports and recon planes - the fighters and bombers. Continuing arifield attacks eventually wear them down.

I did that for the first two years (aprox.), but now I find my bombers of more use when they attack German units in the open. They usually account for something like 2.000 troops, 100 guns and 20 AFVs per turn. Moreover the Axis aerial attacks are not a big concern now, the most annoying thing about them is when they strike my moving units.


Terje

[terje439]

Since it is now officially 2012 in Norway;

Happy New Year to all of you and your loved ones!


Terje

[terje439]

Turn 134

Overall
The fighting goes on, but it seems the Axis are thinking about defending now, as they only launch 2 attacks, scoring 2 retreats. We launch 26 attacks, unfortunately we get 7 helds, the last 19 attacks cause retreats. The Axis seem to have severe difficulties in the Voronezh area.
The losses are reported as;
Axis : 68.000 troops and 315 AFVs (top 3 types being PzIIIm 94, PzIVh 58, Panther (A and D) 45).
USSR : 109.000 troops, 465 AFVs.
181.000 workers report to the manpower pool, ending it at 3.992.

Units
Another 16 aerial units are given a vacation, this time 15 TACs and 1 LB.
We form another rifle corps, and then we order the creation of 2 rifle division and 2 rifle brigades (I have two guard divisions in need of that "extra" brigade"). The rest of my points are spent on handing out various SUs to some of my guards.
Our forces still grows despite heavy losses, this turn by 52.000.

Units destroyed
The German 705 SP infantry gun company is destroyed this turn. Every little bit helps.

Partisans
3 acts of sabotague is performed by the 24 units that are active after 12 are forced to retreat. Only 8 supply drops were flown.

[randallw]

It does look like things are turning your way a bit; the loss ratios, both in manpower and tanks, for the last few turns, is bad for the Axis.

[gingerbread]

You are 3 turns out of synch - you state "Turn 131" but the screen shot shows Turn: 134. This has been the case for some turns.

Also, "181.000 workers report to the manpower pool,(...)" - is this from the event log? The Manpower multiplier for '43 should be 40 and I doubt that you have 4500 Manpower Cities/Towns.

What have you done with the impressive concentration of Mech Corps in the north? First I thought that that is not terrain suitable for mech units, but then I realized that the Axis player also would think so - have you managed any advances up there after Vologda?