RHS 5 & 6.758 comprehensive update uploaded/frozen/final?

[el cid again]

I am holding off another day because of the discovery ROCAF is badly wrong - and because I took the time to review 4 USMC squadrons (adding one, moving 2 ahead significantly, moving one back a few days, changing aircraft when appropriate, and causing them to have dual designations). I also have added 4 USAAF squadrons of ultra long range recon. 3 ROC air squadrons are upgrading to groups. Some others will go away or rename or be added. One will be high value in experience (US/Aussie pilots).

I will then freeze 40 level and we can plan turns. This is a deep freeze - no changes will be accepted. We have an offer to data wash one more time - so however it comes back - that will be 41 - and that we will use.

Present plan - issue 40 9 Dec 06

Some progress on Level 7 map issues - mainly Aden - but it will be a 2007 project.

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: el cid again

I am holding off another day because of the discovery ROCAF is badly wrong - and because I took the time to review 4 USMC squadrons (adding one, moving 2 ahead significantly, moving one back a few days, changing aircraft when appropriate, and causing them to have dual designations). I also have added 4 USAAF squadrons of ultra long range recon. 3 ROC air squadrons are upgrading to groups. Some others will go away or rename or be added. One will be high value in experience (US/Aussie pilots).

I will then freeze 40 level and we can plan turns. This is a deep freeze - no changes will be accepted. We have an offer to data wash one more time - so however it comes back - that will be 41 - and that we will use.

Present plan - issue 40 9 Dec 06

Some progress on Level 7 map issues - mainly Aden - but it will be a 2007 project.

Hi Sid, Ref the "14th International squadron", IIRC, it was defunct by the time the AVG was formed. This is not the definitive site on the matter, but is interesting none the less.

http://www.warbirdforum.com/clcsino.htm


and these are from translated Japanese accounts:

http://www.warbirdforum.com/rangoon1.htm


and here is a roster of the known Flying Tiger groups!(much other info can be located on the "home" page of this site).

http://www.warbirdforum.com/roster1.htm

and finally, thiis very detailed study of hostilities in "pre-war China, (including the birth (and death) of the "14th volunteer squadron"

http://media.wiley.com/product_data/exc ... 3937-1.pdf

[m10bob]

Two of my favourite sites ref the CAF of WW2:

http://www.ww2wings.com/wings/china/chinamain.shtml




CBI air OOB's:

http://www.cbi-history.com/

[el cid again]

5.40 follows plus five hours

7.40 will follow for the Madagascar Working Group

File ownership surrendered - when RHSEOS 6.41 returns I will issue Japanese turn 1 for the Tag Team.

I am working on pwhex for levels 5 and 6 - for release 10 Dec 2006 - correcting issues in China/Russia.


This folds in a number of corrections and updates from various threads and from data washing.
In particular ROCAF completely rewritten. This is a much more modern air force than WITP has before seen -
starting with P-43 and Hudsons in service - adding P-40s - including late model ones - and B-25s - as well as P-66 -
bye and bye. Recon elements and transport elements added. A high experience American/Aussie mercinary unit
added.

[CobraAus]

posting will be held up from me today its 35 c and climbing to 40c + to hot to have PC on
cool change to night
cobra

[m10bob]

Sid, here is a synopsis of the origin of your CAF 14th International Squadron, but as I stated in another thread, I believe it was disbanded prior to Pearl Harbor,(or denuded of the non-Chinese pilots?)

The Mercenaries: The 14th Squadron
In its early phases, the air war against Japan was fought largely by the foreign mercenary pilots of the 14th Squadron. This unit’s airmen included pilots from the United States and France with a few Australians thrown in. Several had recently served on the Republican side in Spain. Its commander was an American WW1 veteran, Vincent Schmidt, and its air gunners and ground staff were Chinese. The squadron’s equipment was equally cosmopolitan: Vultee V-11 and Northrop 2E light bombers, a couple of Martin 139 medium bombers, an armed Bellanca 28-90 racing plane, and a pair of Dewoitine D-510 fighters.

In July 1937, the Japanese invaded China proper, seizing Peking on the 28th. The 14th Squadron’s Northrops carried out some of China’s first offensive action against Japan when they bombed Japanese lines on 14 August, 1937. On the night of May 19, 1938, Chinese crews flew two of the unit’s surviving Martin bombers on a leaflet raid over Nagasaki. Western pilots also served on Hawk IIIs at Hanchow (4th Wing) and on D-510s at Kunming.

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviati ... _force.htm


and if you will read this, you may percieve why the AVG was still a "needed commodity" even after the "14th Volunteer squadron":

http://www.warbirdforum.com/clc.htm

quote:"Though he could do little about improving China's aircraft, Chennault did experiment with hiring "fair pilots" from abroad. The mercenaries proved more formidable as boasters and boozers than they were at fighting, and the 14th Volunteer Squadron was disbanded after a few comic-opera missions. There was talk that Chennault and some of the other American instructors -- Billy McDonald especially -- also flew as mercenaries for the Chinese Air Force, earning $500 and $1,000 for each plane they shot down, but apparently it was only talk. "

and finally, thiis very detailed study of hostilities in "pre-war China, (including the birth (and death) of the "14th volunteer squadron"

http://media.wiley.com/product_data/exc ... 3937-1.pdf

[Sardaukar]

One of the Soviet bases in 6.40 EOS was Australian ! [X(] Was that intentional ? I don't think so, Japan probably starts to bomb it on Turn 1 !

[Bliztk]

Intentional, to allow Soviet ships to be in map at start of the game. There are problems for refueling if the base is Soviet AFAIK

[Sardaukar]

I see...but doesn't AI bomb the place ? It's close to Japan anyway...

[el cid again]

This is the pre-debugged version x.40 was supposed to be - mainly to fold in some revisions - not due to errors.
We did get some eratta fixed - however - more than usual.

This version is more or less final for standard scenarios - but EOS is undergoing a major conversion and is going to be late by a day. We are converting the start turn over to a historical plan Yamamoto decided he should have used 2 days after PH. This is complicated!

This version REQUIRES use of 1.804 WITP update. It also REQURES the updated art from Cobra. I think it is his level 7 art - in spite of his reservations about it - it looks right.

It is planned to debug this set over the weekend for a difinitive release for use next week. It is also planned to review comments on the EOS changes - if any.

A number of OB corrections have been incorporated. For example, 10th Air Force shows up about two months sooner.

[el cid again]

It appears Schmidt also commanded the 10th Squadron - which is confusing - and the ROC version of the 14th history is considerably more glamorous than your materials indicate. Perhaps it was (and remains?) useful in a propaganda sense? Anyway - there are a number of detachments - including provincial air units and a personal one attached to Chiang - all represented by the "14th" in the RHS interpretation. Because of their missions - and because they are too small to be in squadons. This "unit" is 3 detachments - none able to get very big. My design intent is to say that tiny elements of ROCAF had better than horrible morale ratings before AVG shows up in strength. And players seem not to send AVG to China anyway - whereas these units start there. They are too small to change the course of the war - which of course is correct.

[el cid again]

ORIGINAL: Bliztk

Intentional, to allow Soviet ships to be in map at start of the game. There are problems for refueling if the base is Soviet AFAIK

It USED to be intentional for ALL Soviet bases. x.40 was supposed to change that - and this one failed to change.

1.804 fixed the Soviet refueling problem - and in fact made it possible to put subs in Russian passive scenarios - so we changed with it. Seems Matrix does respond to what we want - and it noted interest in Soviet ships strong enough to justify changes. I am slightly surprised - but pleased.

It is fixed in x.41

[el cid again]

RHSEOS 6.41 Comprehensive update uploaded about 6 hours ago. Other 6.41 scenarios are uploading now.
5.41 will follow in about 5 hours.

These are essentially debugged versions of 6.41 with some additional feedback on technical and OB issues folded in -
and conversion of EOS to a different opening operational plan (one which is, at least, exciting). I am surrendering ownership of these file sets as they are issued - and when they return we will stop updating 5 and 6 - and proceed to play - and work on 7.

Meanwhile, I will issue a revised pwhex for 5 and 6 - probably tomorrow. These will fix a few errors in China and Russia.

[Dili]

Where i can read more about RHS i mean i think i dont understand the proposes of 5 and 6. Is the 6 a sort of Beta or risky version and 5 low risk version?
And what will be the propose of V7?
 
In short i want to play the most comon boring campaiign but that isnt plagued by problems like the ubber fighters of stock game, and with most realistic OOB and ship quality data. Not interested for now in what ifs, 6 engine bombers etc. What i should choose?
 
Btw i have read the RHS pdf.

[Ol_Dog]

Playing against the AI, I am currently playing pry's scen 30 - which is similar to stock, CHS 2.08 and I have started every version of RHS CVO up through 5.40 as they were released, and some of the other versions. I plan to play CVO 5x. I think you will like RHS 5.

It is my impression that the map changes starting with 6 and the planned map changes for 7 may not be a substantial improvement to the play of version 5, but will add additional area to be contested. I don't think the OOB or the data base is more accurate - all versions have been corrected for errors as found.

[el cid again]

This series of pwhex files is intended for use with RHS Level 6 secnarios.

pwhex is the file you normally use and start with

PANPW64 is the file you rename pwhex IF the Panama Canal is ever broken - and otherwise you never use it. It is identical except for one hex side - between Colon and Panama City - with the regular file.

RHSPW64 is the file you rename pwhex IF you ever need to "fix" the Panama Canal AFTER you "busted" it - and it is in fact pwhex in its standard RHS form - renamed so you don't lose it if you do the "break the canal" trick.

These files fix a couple of discrepencies between map art and pwhex where Russian rail lines cross the borders of Manchukuo - and near Kan Hsien in China.

They also fix a mismatched hex side pair near Pyongyang, Korea

RHS Level 6 pwhex files are NOT compatable with CHS or stock scenarios.

The pwhex file you are really using MUST BE in the top level WITP folder. Others appear only to be copies, but it may be an identical copy should reside in the SCEN folder - since it always does. To change which pwhex file you are using, simply put the one you want to use in these filders with the name pwhex.dat. If you rename PANPW64.dat as pwhex.dat, the Panama Canal becomes impassible. Since that is the normal CHS case - some may WANT to use that as their default. But note that RHS ships appearing at Colon then won't enter the Pacific!

[el cid again]

We have completed Level 5 pwhex files to the same standard as 6. However, the set does not include a file actually called pwhex (since 6 is the present default case). IF you are playing level 5, RENAME RHSPW54.dat as pwhex.dat
and put it in the top level WITP folder.

Note that RHS Level 5 pwhex files ARE compatable with CHS extended maps. IF you like Andrew's maps, but you want to be able to use the Panama Canal, more rivers, ferries between islands, etc - you might want to use the RHS pwhex files. If you don't want the Panama Canal open (and in CHS it is not) - use PANPW54 instead of RHSPW54.

[Dili]

Where i can get that RHSPW54.dat?

[el cid again]

The RHS site - or from Mifune or El Cid directly.

[el cid again]

We are forwarding EOS location files and air group files in an unofficial x.411 test version

assigning Lexington and Enterprise to their historical locations

to generate comments.

VMSB-231 is also assigned to Lex in a way that does not overload the ship.

It is not clear if we will fold these changes into EOS or all scenarios, or none, when .42 is released?

Matrix deliberately misplaced these two TFs - and we are putting them back - based on Samuel Eliot Morison's
The Rising Sun in the Pacific (Pp 210 and 212) - at hexes 110, 74 (Enterprise) and 101,70 (Lexington).