December 11, 1942 – This was another quiet turn, likely because of generally bad weather everywhere, and also due to AuTiger getting his next plans into place. There was the usual minesweeping here and there, and a bit of sub chasing, but no more cripples sank. I guess that the Combat Replay and Combat Reports from the 2nd Naval Battle of Lautem "exaggerated" a bit, otherwise I would have expected that the US BB that supposedly took four Long Lances would have sunk by now.
The Rain meant that my bombers in Southern China refused to fly again against the mass of Chinese troops that are sitting at the crossroads to the north of Canton. That seems to be an extremely hard hex to bomb in all of my pbems. A Helen Sentai in Peking did fly a nuisance raid against Yenen, and caused a nice little bit of damage. But with the huge number of Allied troops in Yenen that sort of damage gets repaired almost immediately.
AuTiger got off a B-17 attack against the airfields at Mandalay, likely in retaliation against the 2E attack I staged out of there last turn. Interestingly, the Forts were escorted by P-40Bs. I haven't seen any sizable numbers of Tomahawks in action in a long time.
Otherwise, it was just a case of moving forces and such around for me again. I'm somewhat resigned to facing a serious Allied advance through the DEI in 1943, but I don't feel like weakening my defenses in the Central Pacific in a panicky and futile attempt to protect my Oil and Resource sources. This pbem is lost anyway, so I may as well test out some theories of mine and see what works and what doesn't work. And who knows, I may still cause AuTiger some level of "discomfort" as he advances.
Hunting the AuTiger - an AAR (no Tigers please)
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RE: Regrouping
Just caught up. Great AAR! [&o][&o]
Don't be so hard on yourself. Sure, you've made some mistakes, but eveyrone does [:)] I think the critical point is that you are not giving him any "freebies". He has to work for everything.
Don't be so hard on yourself. Sure, you've made some mistakes, but eveyrone does [:)] I think the critical point is that you are not giving him any "freebies". He has to work for everything.
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RE: Regrouping
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Just caught up. Great AAR! [&o][&o]
Don't be so hard on yourself. Sure, you've made some mistakes, but eveyrone does [:)] I think the critical point is that you are not giving him any "freebies". He has to work for everything.
What I'm trying to do now is learn what other "freebies" not to give away later in the game so that I can apply that knowledge to other pbems.
It's very tough playing a good, smart player like AuTiger (who is also ex-Military so he has a much better idea of what he is supposed to be doing than I do
). No game-player likes to lose, but the important part is to learn from the losses and make fewer mistakes in the future. Thanks for the comments.
BTW - I will be away and without pc for the long weekend so there won't be any more posts until early next week.
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Asleep in his bunk
December 12, 1942 - The night turn was the usual routine of mine clearing and sub hunting on my part, but AuTiger is using his time more efficiently and is getting ready for major offensives in at least three locations.
Nothing much happened during the day phase. As usual, none of my planned air attacks flew anywhere, other than some Bettys on Naval Patrol that ran into the ever increasing CAP at Lautem. AuTiger's plans at Lautem continue to race forward now that I am unable to interfere with his activities there, and as such the Air Fields at Lautem reached Level 3 and the Port reached Level 2 this turn. It won't be long before AuTiger will be pounding the entire DEI into dust.
Way off in the Aleutians AuTiger got a supply TF into Adak and has another TF, likely PTs, sitting at Umnak. AuTiger has also increased his air power in the region again and I presume that he is preparing for the eventual improvement in the weather. I sent my Combat TF off towards Adak anyway, just in case they can sneak in. I don't think that AuTiger has his "fast" BBs sitting in ambush at Adak like he did with the "slow" BBs at Lautem, but one never knows.
And in the third major area of activity, at least 16 units have appeared along the railroad between Myitkyina and Mandalay. Thanks to AuTiger's regular 4E bombardments of Mandalay over the past 12 game-months the fortifications there are still only at Level 4, so I don't think that it will take long for AuTiger to recapture Mandalay, particularly since the River is on the "wrong side" for the Japanese to defend the place. (It is so very obvious that the Auto-Shock Attack rule for river crossing was put in place solely to slow down the Japanese during the first six months of the Game.)
But some of the moronic design decisions are "blind" to either side, and AuTiger got to "enjoy" one of the minor irritations as the Nevada finally sank at dock in Darwin, but the Captain of the Nevada still "went down with the ship". [8|]
Nothing much happened during the day phase. As usual, none of my planned air attacks flew anywhere, other than some Bettys on Naval Patrol that ran into the ever increasing CAP at Lautem. AuTiger's plans at Lautem continue to race forward now that I am unable to interfere with his activities there, and as such the Air Fields at Lautem reached Level 3 and the Port reached Level 2 this turn. It won't be long before AuTiger will be pounding the entire DEI into dust.
Way off in the Aleutians AuTiger got a supply TF into Adak and has another TF, likely PTs, sitting at Umnak. AuTiger has also increased his air power in the region again and I presume that he is preparing for the eventual improvement in the weather. I sent my Combat TF off towards Adak anyway, just in case they can sneak in. I don't think that AuTiger has his "fast" BBs sitting in ambush at Adak like he did with the "slow" BBs at Lautem, but one never knows.
And in the third major area of activity, at least 16 units have appeared along the railroad between Myitkyina and Mandalay. Thanks to AuTiger's regular 4E bombardments of Mandalay over the past 12 game-months the fortifications there are still only at Level 4, so I don't think that it will take long for AuTiger to recapture Mandalay, particularly since the River is on the "wrong side" for the Japanese to defend the place. (It is so very obvious that the Auto-Shock Attack rule for river crossing was put in place solely to slow down the Japanese during the first six months of the Game.)
But some of the moronic design decisions are "blind" to either side, and AuTiger got to "enjoy" one of the minor irritations as the Nevada finally sank at dock in Darwin, but the Captain of the Nevada still "went down with the ship". [8|]
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Double Allied Trouble
December 13, 1942 – The night phase was very quiet; there was limited minesweeping and no submarine contacts. The day phase continued to be quiet with plenty of rain everywhere and only a couple of small air-to-ground attacks by my forces. However, there were plenty of Allied Air Patrols in the air and AuTiger's big offensives continued to progress in an ominous manner.
There are now a huge number of planes at Lautem, along with massive numbers of troops and at least four TFs. I don't know how large Lautem can be built up, but AuTiger ought to max it out pretty quickly. He now has a couple of hundred fighters as well as around 150 bombers at the base, along with the usual couple of hundred auxiliary planes. If he isn't planning an Air Drop or two in the region I can't see why not.
At the same time the Allied advance on Mandalay moved within a day's journey on the Rail Road. I now have a half dozen Air Attacks set to hit those troops, along with Zeros on Escort because I expect AuTiger to start to LR CAP his advancing forces. It would be nice if those Air Attacks would fly, but my guess is that maybe one at most will go, given the track record of the Game. I've also, rather belatedly, ordered my forces out of Lashio. I should have thought of that last turn. (Oh well…)
BTW – as I expected, AuTiger has plenty of Chinese troops leading his vanguard. I can't quite figure out how he ended up with so many Chinese combat troops (he still has huge numbers in China proper), but it is likely partially my fault because I wasn't able to trap or destroy them early in the pbem when they were fewer and weaker.
In the Aleutians AuTiger pulled back his TF from Adak, so I set my incoming TF to Bombardment and will see how things go. I could see my TF sitting to the east of Kiska during the Combat Replay, but it wasn't spotted according to the Operational Report, and so I have not idea if AuTiger will know that the TF is there or not.
In any event, given the hopelessness of the situations in Burma and the DEI, I decided to try some raids in the Pacific since AuTiger has stripped Eastern Australia and the South Pacific of almost anything that can shoot back. So I've sent off a Bombardment TF towards north-eastern Oz and another towards Canton. If I find out that AuTiger has left Canton pretty much empty I may well send in a Division and try to grab it, if for no other reason than to get some practice at Atoll invasions.
There are now a huge number of planes at Lautem, along with massive numbers of troops and at least four TFs. I don't know how large Lautem can be built up, but AuTiger ought to max it out pretty quickly. He now has a couple of hundred fighters as well as around 150 bombers at the base, along with the usual couple of hundred auxiliary planes. If he isn't planning an Air Drop or two in the region I can't see why not.
At the same time the Allied advance on Mandalay moved within a day's journey on the Rail Road. I now have a half dozen Air Attacks set to hit those troops, along with Zeros on Escort because I expect AuTiger to start to LR CAP his advancing forces. It would be nice if those Air Attacks would fly, but my guess is that maybe one at most will go, given the track record of the Game. I've also, rather belatedly, ordered my forces out of Lashio. I should have thought of that last turn. (Oh well…)
BTW – as I expected, AuTiger has plenty of Chinese troops leading his vanguard. I can't quite figure out how he ended up with so many Chinese combat troops (he still has huge numbers in China proper), but it is likely partially my fault because I wasn't able to trap or destroy them early in the pbem when they were fewer and weaker.
In the Aleutians AuTiger pulled back his TF from Adak, so I set my incoming TF to Bombardment and will see how things go. I could see my TF sitting to the east of Kiska during the Combat Replay, but it wasn't spotted according to the Operational Report, and so I have not idea if AuTiger will know that the TF is there or not.
In any event, given the hopelessness of the situations in Burma and the DEI, I decided to try some raids in the Pacific since AuTiger has stripped Eastern Australia and the South Pacific of almost anything that can shoot back. So I've sent off a Bombardment TF towards north-eastern Oz and another towards Canton. If I find out that AuTiger has left Canton pretty much empty I may well send in a Division and try to grab it, if for no other reason than to get some practice at Atoll invasions.
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Allied Paras at Dili
December 14, 1942 – The night phase started out with the usual minesweeping by my MSWs; nowadays before I send any ships to a base that I haven't visited in a while I send in MSWs because it is very likely that an Allied sub or two has come in to drop off some mines. But in addition to this routine part of the game my small bombardment TF sailed into Adak unmolested and caused a bit of damage, including destroying several P-40Bs on the ground. So I have to guess that AuTiger didn't notice my TF last turn.
The day phase brought some air action. Two nuisance air attacks flew that I didn't care about – one was by Helens on the air fields at Yunan, and the other was by Sonias from Nanning that hit the Chinese Base Force at Wuhan. But none of the air attacks that were scheduled to fly from five different air bases in SEA against the troops that were sitting to the north of Mandalay, nor any of the air attacks that were scheduled to fly from five different air bases in Southern China against the Chinese troops that were sitting at the crossroads north of Canton, flew.
That's 10 out of 10 different attacks from 10 different bases that didn't fly against enemy troops out in the open. And that's even with multiple Air Headquarters being within range of each set of bases. And this is now around the fifth consecutive turn where my planes refused to attack any ground troops in the field in Burma, or at those crossroads to the north of Canton. I am going to assume that this is the Game "Working As Designed", and it is not a Database problem. [8|]
A large number of 4Es did fly against Mandalay this turn, but the surprise wasn't that they flew – I expect Allied 4Es to fly under any circumstances – but that they attacked the Base Force at Mandalay. Huh? I thought that bomber attacks against stacks of troops hit the strongest unit first. Then I thought about how odd it was that with only two LCUs in Wuhan my Sonias hit the Base Force there too, and I just decided that this was yet another random result from the very "random" design of this Game.
Things were otherwise quiet until the very end of the turn when Dakotas started to take Flak Damage over Dili. As I had speculated, AuTiger finally launched his first Airborne Assault. But instead of using his Paratroops to "leap frog" my defenses in the region he sent the Paras only two hexes away to Dili, a place where he could have marched some of the massive numbers of troops that he has at Lautem.
AuTiger's usual luck wasn't with him this time, and his caution had allowed the Base Force survivors from the capture of Lautem to make it to Dili just in time to join the Base Force that I had in place for the defense of the Base. And to my astonishment the Defense was successful against the initial Shock attack! What I suspect happened was that AuTiger tried to be too "sneaky" and so he hadn't sent any bombers against Dili in a long time in order not to alert me to his plans. (However, it was always obvious that AuTiger would go after Dili sooner rather than later.) Therefore, my original Base Force in Dili was rested and reasonably up to full strength, and there was also a sufficient amount of supplies in place, thus my troops put up a competent defense.
The nice thing about this is that because AuTiger hasn't bothered to send any ground troops along the trail from Lautem to Dili my Base Force that retreated from Lautem "laid" a "J" onto the trail and so no supplies will flow on the ground to the Paras. I find the entire thing quite funny, but I have little doubt that AuTiger will still capture Dili fairly quickly, if not by flying in more Paras, then by finally marching some troops up the road. Never-the-less, this ought to put that particular Allied Paratroop unit out of action for a while and cause AuTiger to re-think his tactics a little bit. [;)]
The day phase brought some air action. Two nuisance air attacks flew that I didn't care about – one was by Helens on the air fields at Yunan, and the other was by Sonias from Nanning that hit the Chinese Base Force at Wuhan. But none of the air attacks that were scheduled to fly from five different air bases in SEA against the troops that were sitting to the north of Mandalay, nor any of the air attacks that were scheduled to fly from five different air bases in Southern China against the Chinese troops that were sitting at the crossroads north of Canton, flew.
That's 10 out of 10 different attacks from 10 different bases that didn't fly against enemy troops out in the open. And that's even with multiple Air Headquarters being within range of each set of bases. And this is now around the fifth consecutive turn where my planes refused to attack any ground troops in the field in Burma, or at those crossroads to the north of Canton. I am going to assume that this is the Game "Working As Designed", and it is not a Database problem. [8|]
A large number of 4Es did fly against Mandalay this turn, but the surprise wasn't that they flew – I expect Allied 4Es to fly under any circumstances – but that they attacked the Base Force at Mandalay. Huh? I thought that bomber attacks against stacks of troops hit the strongest unit first. Then I thought about how odd it was that with only two LCUs in Wuhan my Sonias hit the Base Force there too, and I just decided that this was yet another random result from the very "random" design of this Game.
Things were otherwise quiet until the very end of the turn when Dakotas started to take Flak Damage over Dili. As I had speculated, AuTiger finally launched his first Airborne Assault. But instead of using his Paratroops to "leap frog" my defenses in the region he sent the Paras only two hexes away to Dili, a place where he could have marched some of the massive numbers of troops that he has at Lautem.
AuTiger's usual luck wasn't with him this time, and his caution had allowed the Base Force survivors from the capture of Lautem to make it to Dili just in time to join the Base Force that I had in place for the defense of the Base. And to my astonishment the Defense was successful against the initial Shock attack! What I suspect happened was that AuTiger tried to be too "sneaky" and so he hadn't sent any bombers against Dili in a long time in order not to alert me to his plans. (However, it was always obvious that AuTiger would go after Dili sooner rather than later.) Therefore, my original Base Force in Dili was rested and reasonably up to full strength, and there was also a sufficient amount of supplies in place, thus my troops put up a competent defense.
The nice thing about this is that because AuTiger hasn't bothered to send any ground troops along the trail from Lautem to Dili my Base Force that retreated from Lautem "laid" a "J" onto the trail and so no supplies will flow on the ground to the Paras. I find the entire thing quite funny, but I have little doubt that AuTiger will still capture Dili fairly quickly, if not by flying in more Paras, then by finally marching some troops up the road. Never-the-less, this ought to put that particular Allied Paratroop unit out of action for a while and cause AuTiger to re-think his tactics a little bit. [;)]
RE: Allied Paras at Dili
ORIGINAL: Dive Bomber1
A large number of 4Es did fly against Mandalay this turn, but the surprise wasn't that they flew – I expect Allied 4Es to fly under any circumstances – but that they attacked the Base Force at Mandalay. Huh? I thought that bomber attacks against stacks of troops hit the strongest unit first. Then I thought about how odd it was that with only two LCUs in Wuhan my Sonias hit the Base Force there too, and I just decided that this was yet another random result from the very "random" design of this Game.
Same thing just happened in my game with Coach Z -- the bombers ignored the division, brigade and some other infantry at La Foa and attacked an EAB unit. For a few seconds, it made him think I pulled my troops out...
Delete the trackerdb.* files.
Copy the pwsdll.dll file from the game folder to the WitPTracker folder.
Try running the WitPTracker.bat again.
Copy the pwsdll.dll file from the game folder to the WitPTracker folder.
Try running the WitPTracker.bat again.
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RE: Allied Paras at Dili
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A large number of 4Es did fly against Mandalay this turn, but the surprise wasn't that they flew – I expect Allied 4Es to fly under any circumstances – but that they attacked the Base Force at Mandalay. Huh? I thought that bomber attacks against stacks of troops hit the strongest unit first. Then I thought about how odd it was that with only two LCUs in Wuhan my Sonias hit the Base Force there too, and I just decided that this was yet another random result from the very "random" design of this Game.
Same thing just happened in my game with Coach Z -- the bombers ignored the division, brigade and some other infantry at La Foa and attacked an EAB unit. For a few seconds, it made him think I pulled my troops out...
This time AuTiger's bombers went after my combat units at both Mandalay and Lautem. There must be some random "thing" that decides what an air unit hits.
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Allied Ships Back at Koepang
December 15, 1942 – The night phase had the usual minor minesweeping and half-hearted sub chasing by my forces, followed by a large-scale minesweeping effort at Koepang by a US DMS TF. So it looks like AuTiger will try his luck at Koepang again fairly shortly.
The day phase reinforced that observation because the DMS TF didn't go away, the big Allied Surface Combat TF was spotted leaving Lautem and was heading towards the southwest, and 103 Forts hit the LCU at Koepang. The Paras that are stuck at Dili remained quiet this turn, so it appears that they are out of supply and waiting for more help to march along the trail from Lautem.
AuTiger still has lots and lots of fighters at Lautem, along with tons of bombers. Surprisingly, there were no long-range US fighters flying LR CAP over that DMS TF at Koepang. Maybe AuTiger has finally realized that he has nothing at all to fear from my LBA and is treating it with the distain that it so justly deserves.
To give you an idea of how totally useless my LBA really is - I have 6 Betty Daitais within normal range of Koepang. The Weather is "Clear" throughout the region. My Daitais all have Pilots with Average Experiences in the mid-70s to mid-80s. All of the Daitai leaders have high values. There is plenty of supply at all of the bases. All of the Daitais were set to Naval Attack with 20% on Air Patrol.
So, how many attacks flew? One. Yes, only one, and that was from the base that was farthest away, Balikpapan. And even though there was no LR CAP not one of my planes scored a hit of any sort on the seven DMS ships. Maybe the AI is waiting until AuTiger puts some LR CAP over Koepang to let the rest of my bombers fly, so lots of them can be shot down.
The total futility of my LBA was re-emphasized in China and Burma where for the sixth consecutive turn none of my 10 bomber units at 10 different bases flew against either of the stacks of troops that were to the north of Mandalay or the north of Canton. I know that there were no Allied fighters on LR CAP over either stack of enemy troops, because all of my Recon flights – most of which were co-located at the same bases as my bombers – did fly over the Allied forces and even took flak losses.
Just in case you are assuming that the Weather was just too bad for a sixth straight day for anything to fly, a Group of Mitchells from Myitkyina flew and hit some of my troops at Mandalay, and then a Group of Liberators and a Group of B-17s flew from India to also hit my troops at Mandalay. Although I'll bet that those 4Es have pilots with very high experience, those Mitchells have hardly flown at all, so I can't imagine that their pilots are much better than the average for the Allies.
BTW – all of my bomber pilots, along with the Daitai leaders, have very good experience. They just don't seem to want to fly against Allied troops out in the open. And I am aware of the Game Design factor that favours Dive Bombers over Level Bombers for Ground Attacks, but I have equal numbers of both types of planes set to attack, and none of them flew.
It is definitely not fun at all to play the Game like this. I keep on getting the feeling that I am not doing some small thing "right", but I have no idea what that is. It seems improbable that so many air units would not fly missions simply because of "bad luck".
In any event, in the absence of any air attacks on the Allied forces over the past number of turns, a mass of Allied troops reached Mandalay this turn. Fortunately, my combat unit and Base Force from Lashio reached Mandalay too, so that will help with the defense. (An AA unit is on its way but will take another turn or two to get there.) Now that the Allied troops are situated at a Base maybe my bombers will attack. So I brought in even more air units to more bases and set them to Ground Attack at Mandalay. I also have plenty of good fighters on escort and Recon planes flying along, so I can't see anything else that I can do to help the situation.
Actually, if AuTiger were to decide to divert his bombers from Ground Attacks on my troops at Mandalay to Air Field attacks on my surrounding Bases he would likely slaughter most of my better Air Units on the Ground, so I'm hoping that he is too focussed on his Land attack.
In light of these Full-Scale Operations in Burma and the DEI I've decided to give up on my planned "nuisance" land assault on Yenen and instead I am redirecting those Southern Command units in China to move to the Coast so that I can ship them into the SEA and DEI. It will probably be "too little, too late", but that's the great strength of AuTiger's overall plan – he got me to build up my forces in the regions where he didn't intend to attack, and at the same time caused me to reduce my forces in the regions where he intended to attack. You've got to hand it to AuTiger – he has outplayed me masterfully.
The day phase reinforced that observation because the DMS TF didn't go away, the big Allied Surface Combat TF was spotted leaving Lautem and was heading towards the southwest, and 103 Forts hit the LCU at Koepang. The Paras that are stuck at Dili remained quiet this turn, so it appears that they are out of supply and waiting for more help to march along the trail from Lautem.
AuTiger still has lots and lots of fighters at Lautem, along with tons of bombers. Surprisingly, there were no long-range US fighters flying LR CAP over that DMS TF at Koepang. Maybe AuTiger has finally realized that he has nothing at all to fear from my LBA and is treating it with the distain that it so justly deserves.
To give you an idea of how totally useless my LBA really is - I have 6 Betty Daitais within normal range of Koepang. The Weather is "Clear" throughout the region. My Daitais all have Pilots with Average Experiences in the mid-70s to mid-80s. All of the Daitai leaders have high values. There is plenty of supply at all of the bases. All of the Daitais were set to Naval Attack with 20% on Air Patrol.
So, how many attacks flew? One. Yes, only one, and that was from the base that was farthest away, Balikpapan. And even though there was no LR CAP not one of my planes scored a hit of any sort on the seven DMS ships. Maybe the AI is waiting until AuTiger puts some LR CAP over Koepang to let the rest of my bombers fly, so lots of them can be shot down.
The total futility of my LBA was re-emphasized in China and Burma where for the sixth consecutive turn none of my 10 bomber units at 10 different bases flew against either of the stacks of troops that were to the north of Mandalay or the north of Canton. I know that there were no Allied fighters on LR CAP over either stack of enemy troops, because all of my Recon flights – most of which were co-located at the same bases as my bombers – did fly over the Allied forces and even took flak losses.
Just in case you are assuming that the Weather was just too bad for a sixth straight day for anything to fly, a Group of Mitchells from Myitkyina flew and hit some of my troops at Mandalay, and then a Group of Liberators and a Group of B-17s flew from India to also hit my troops at Mandalay. Although I'll bet that those 4Es have pilots with very high experience, those Mitchells have hardly flown at all, so I can't imagine that their pilots are much better than the average for the Allies.
BTW – all of my bomber pilots, along with the Daitai leaders, have very good experience. They just don't seem to want to fly against Allied troops out in the open. And I am aware of the Game Design factor that favours Dive Bombers over Level Bombers for Ground Attacks, but I have equal numbers of both types of planes set to attack, and none of them flew.
It is definitely not fun at all to play the Game like this. I keep on getting the feeling that I am not doing some small thing "right", but I have no idea what that is. It seems improbable that so many air units would not fly missions simply because of "bad luck".
In any event, in the absence of any air attacks on the Allied forces over the past number of turns, a mass of Allied troops reached Mandalay this turn. Fortunately, my combat unit and Base Force from Lashio reached Mandalay too, so that will help with the defense. (An AA unit is on its way but will take another turn or two to get there.) Now that the Allied troops are situated at a Base maybe my bombers will attack. So I brought in even more air units to more bases and set them to Ground Attack at Mandalay. I also have plenty of good fighters on escort and Recon planes flying along, so I can't see anything else that I can do to help the situation.
Actually, if AuTiger were to decide to divert his bombers from Ground Attacks on my troops at Mandalay to Air Field attacks on my surrounding Bases he would likely slaughter most of my better Air Units on the Ground, so I'm hoping that he is too focussed on his Land attack.
In light of these Full-Scale Operations in Burma and the DEI I've decided to give up on my planned "nuisance" land assault on Yenen and instead I am redirecting those Southern Command units in China to move to the Coast so that I can ship them into the SEA and DEI. It will probably be "too little, too late", but that's the great strength of AuTiger's overall plan – he got me to build up my forces in the regions where he didn't intend to attack, and at the same time caused me to reduce my forces in the regions where he intended to attack. You've got to hand it to AuTiger – he has outplayed me masterfully.
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The KB vs the USN at Koepang
December 16, 1942 - The night phase started out quietly enough with some minor mine sweeping by a couple of my MSWs. Then things picked up as a big Allied MSW TF came into Koepang and started to clean out mines.
At that point I got a bit of temporary satisfaction way over on the northern part of the map as one of my subs off of Adak put a torpedo into an MSW in a TF that was on its way to Adak from Umnak. Then Daylight came and showed that AuTiger was staging an immense invasion of Koepang.
Allied TFs showed up one after another, turning the whole area around Koepang "green". AuTiger also finally put P-38s on LR CAP over Koepang. Of course, just as I predicted last turn, the Game finally allowed my LBA to fly once there was LR CAP in place to shoot down my Bettys and Nells. A couple big flights of 4E bombers flew over Koepang and hammered my little LCU. Then the Australian 7th Division started to land. Only one AP hit a mine out of multiple dozens, if not hundreds of Allied ships. All the while the KB sat a few hexes away and did nothing.
The Game then took a break and went over to Mandalay where AuTiger also finally put LR CAP over his troops, and of course, under these conditions the Game once again finally sent out my bombers. Now something totally strange happened. I had good Zero Daitais on Escort at each base where I had my bombers. I didn't have any Zeros on LR CAP over Mandalay. My bomber units then started to fly in to try to hit the Allied besiegers. But in each of the five different attacks, only a half dozen Zeros showed up along with my bombers, the Zeros didn't engage the P-40Bs and P-38s. For some totally inexplicable reason, my escorts acted as if they were on LR CAP and didn't engage the enemy. This left my bombers on their own to take big casualties and to only damage the Allied fighters. Afterwards I specifically checked and sure enough, I remembered correctly - all of my Zero Daitais were set to Escort and none were set to LR CAP.
After this frustrating experience the Game switched back to Timor and "announced" that an Allied TF was finally "reacting" to the presence of the KB. A number of large Allied air strikes flew in one after another without the KB getting any planes off against the enemy. Fortunately I had my Zeros on 50% CAP and they stopped the first escorted attack and slaughtered the second unescorted Dauntless attack. But eventually, thanks to the Game Mechanics that cause CAP to slowly give out against multiple attacks, some attacks did get through and a few of my carriers were damaged, but not severely.
At this point it was finally the turn of the KB to strike. Typical of my luck throughout this entire pbem, the KB launched a number of moderate-sized attacks instead of one or two massive and overwhelming attacks. AuTiger had a ton of Wildcats on CAP and they stopped my initial attacks. But again, thanks to the Game Mechanics, eventually a couple of strikes did get through and at least two of the Allied CVs suffered hits. But it wasn't enough to stop the USN pilots and yet another air counter attack got through and damaged my CVs further.
So while neither side was able to strike a "death blow" against each other's ships, this battle spelled the end of the IJN's Air Arm as an effective weapon. The total air losses for the day were:
Japan - 347 planes, Allies, 234 planes
Of those totals, the Air-to-Air losses were:
Japan - 305 planes, Allies 209 planes.
The KB's air units were essentially wiped out. My only chance for escape is to hope that since AuTiger lost so many Dive Bombers he might be reluctant to give chase, particularly further into my LBA. Anyway, the USN Air Power did its job and the Invasion was protected, other than one DD escort in the Invasion TFs that took a torpedo from a Betty that somehow finally got through all of the US fighters.
There's now a certain pointlessness to the pbem, but AuTiger is enjoying himself, so I may as well let him continue to do so for a while.
At that point I got a bit of temporary satisfaction way over on the northern part of the map as one of my subs off of Adak put a torpedo into an MSW in a TF that was on its way to Adak from Umnak. Then Daylight came and showed that AuTiger was staging an immense invasion of Koepang.
Allied TFs showed up one after another, turning the whole area around Koepang "green". AuTiger also finally put P-38s on LR CAP over Koepang. Of course, just as I predicted last turn, the Game finally allowed my LBA to fly once there was LR CAP in place to shoot down my Bettys and Nells. A couple big flights of 4E bombers flew over Koepang and hammered my little LCU. Then the Australian 7th Division started to land. Only one AP hit a mine out of multiple dozens, if not hundreds of Allied ships. All the while the KB sat a few hexes away and did nothing.
The Game then took a break and went over to Mandalay where AuTiger also finally put LR CAP over his troops, and of course, under these conditions the Game once again finally sent out my bombers. Now something totally strange happened. I had good Zero Daitais on Escort at each base where I had my bombers. I didn't have any Zeros on LR CAP over Mandalay. My bomber units then started to fly in to try to hit the Allied besiegers. But in each of the five different attacks, only a half dozen Zeros showed up along with my bombers, the Zeros didn't engage the P-40Bs and P-38s. For some totally inexplicable reason, my escorts acted as if they were on LR CAP and didn't engage the enemy. This left my bombers on their own to take big casualties and to only damage the Allied fighters. Afterwards I specifically checked and sure enough, I remembered correctly - all of my Zero Daitais were set to Escort and none were set to LR CAP.
After this frustrating experience the Game switched back to Timor and "announced" that an Allied TF was finally "reacting" to the presence of the KB. A number of large Allied air strikes flew in one after another without the KB getting any planes off against the enemy. Fortunately I had my Zeros on 50% CAP and they stopped the first escorted attack and slaughtered the second unescorted Dauntless attack. But eventually, thanks to the Game Mechanics that cause CAP to slowly give out against multiple attacks, some attacks did get through and a few of my carriers were damaged, but not severely.
At this point it was finally the turn of the KB to strike. Typical of my luck throughout this entire pbem, the KB launched a number of moderate-sized attacks instead of one or two massive and overwhelming attacks. AuTiger had a ton of Wildcats on CAP and they stopped my initial attacks. But again, thanks to the Game Mechanics, eventually a couple of strikes did get through and at least two of the Allied CVs suffered hits. But it wasn't enough to stop the USN pilots and yet another air counter attack got through and damaged my CVs further.
So while neither side was able to strike a "death blow" against each other's ships, this battle spelled the end of the IJN's Air Arm as an effective weapon. The total air losses for the day were:
Japan - 347 planes, Allies, 234 planes
Of those totals, the Air-to-Air losses were:
Japan - 305 planes, Allies 209 planes.
The KB's air units were essentially wiped out. My only chance for escape is to hope that since AuTiger lost so many Dive Bombers he might be reluctant to give chase, particularly further into my LBA. Anyway, the USN Air Power did its job and the Invasion was protected, other than one DD escort in the Invasion TFs that took a torpedo from a Betty that somehow finally got through all of the US fighters.
There's now a certain pointlessness to the pbem, but AuTiger is enjoying himself, so I may as well let him continue to do so for a while.
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RE: Allied Paras at Dili
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A large number of 4Es did fly against Mandalay this turn, but the surprise wasn't that they flew – I expect Allied 4Es to fly under any circumstances
You are going to like AE..., 4E aircraft need a LOT more maintainence and fly a LOT less...
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RE: Allied Paras at Dili
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
ORIGINAL: Dive Bomber1
A large number of 4Es did fly against Mandalay this turn, but the surprise wasn't that they flew – I expect Allied 4Es to fly under any circumstances
You are going to like AE..., 4E aircraft need a LOT more maintainence and fly a LOT less...
I would be happy just to see my 2Es fly as often as the Allied 4Es. It's impossible to slow down enemy land advances if your planes never leave the ground. I haven't had a single bomber unit attack an enemy LCU in the open in Burma or Southern China in months, while the 4Es attack everything, everywhere and all the time.
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The Allies Recapture Mandalay and Koepang
December 17, 1942 - The night phase started out with the landings at Koepang continuing. More Allied ships cleared mines and another Allied AP hit a mine. So that's 2 mine hits for 1200 mines so far at Koepang.
Some of my MSWs did the usual minesweeping in the usual places, including my lone MSW in the Aleutians that cleared a mine at Adak. A few of my ASW ships also chased a few subs in various locations. The Allied MSW that was torpedoed last turn sank in port at Dutch Harbor this turn.
My nuisance bombardment of Cairns turned into more of a nuisance for me than for AuTiger. One of the light cruisers in the TF was hit fairly hard by shore guns and is limping home slowly. The bombardment caused casualties but otherwise did little damage. The second bombardment TF reached its final run-point outside of Canton and was spotted, but I am sending it in anyway.
AuTiger had P-38 LR CAP over Koepang again so my fresh Bettys couldn't get through to attack his ships, even with fresh good Zero escorts. The P-38s are coming into their own against the Zeros and two Zeros were shot down for every P-38 downed. Unfortunately, Koepang is out of range of my Tonys.
Elsewhere my LBA just sat on the ground and observed the Allied ground troops from a distance. I may as well be playing without an Air Force at this point in the game. AuTiger isn't really playing me any more, he is playing the AI, and the AI is doing its usual worthless job.
It's funny when you think about it - during the first few months of the Game the Japanese air units will attack anything at any time, and then sometime in the late Spring or early Summer of 1942 the Japanese Air Units stop flying regularly and the Allied Air Units start to fly all the time and attack anything at any time. Is this something akin to the "Zero Bonus", but applied in a negative manner to the Sortie odds? Maybe this has been done to "simulate history". All I know is that I have all of my Air Units set to fly missions All of the Time, and my total Sortie rate is less than half of that of the Allied Sortie rate.
In any event, venting aside, the ground phase of the turn displayed the advantage that AuTiger has at this point in the game since he can send his troops anywhere without fear of any air attacks on them. First off, the massive and totally untouched Allied forces at Mandalay captured the base easily. I expected my forces to hold up a little better, but then since the Allied Forces had Never been bombed at all there was no Jungle or Malarial effects evident. So Burma and the rest of the SEA are pretty much open to an Allied Blitzkrieg since it is unlikely that my planes will follow my orders any more elsewhere. (I am having the exact same problems in my other pbems against other opponents.)
And the troops in Koepang were easily defeated, but thanks to yet another pointless "historical rule" in the Game, they weren't destroyed although they don't have an escape path and have no supplies. So AuTiger will be able to get more "free" training yet again.
So the pbem continues along in the "Total Waste of Time" category, but AuTiger is enjoying himself, so I will continue to send turns to him. If nothing else, I am curious to see if the Allied forces ever become slowed down thanks to Supply Line issues. Also, I want to continue to observe AuTiger's tactics so that I can figure out ways to counter similar tactics in my other pbems.
Some of my MSWs did the usual minesweeping in the usual places, including my lone MSW in the Aleutians that cleared a mine at Adak. A few of my ASW ships also chased a few subs in various locations. The Allied MSW that was torpedoed last turn sank in port at Dutch Harbor this turn.
My nuisance bombardment of Cairns turned into more of a nuisance for me than for AuTiger. One of the light cruisers in the TF was hit fairly hard by shore guns and is limping home slowly. The bombardment caused casualties but otherwise did little damage. The second bombardment TF reached its final run-point outside of Canton and was spotted, but I am sending it in anyway.
AuTiger had P-38 LR CAP over Koepang again so my fresh Bettys couldn't get through to attack his ships, even with fresh good Zero escorts. The P-38s are coming into their own against the Zeros and two Zeros were shot down for every P-38 downed. Unfortunately, Koepang is out of range of my Tonys.
Elsewhere my LBA just sat on the ground and observed the Allied ground troops from a distance. I may as well be playing without an Air Force at this point in the game. AuTiger isn't really playing me any more, he is playing the AI, and the AI is doing its usual worthless job.
It's funny when you think about it - during the first few months of the Game the Japanese air units will attack anything at any time, and then sometime in the late Spring or early Summer of 1942 the Japanese Air Units stop flying regularly and the Allied Air Units start to fly all the time and attack anything at any time. Is this something akin to the "Zero Bonus", but applied in a negative manner to the Sortie odds? Maybe this has been done to "simulate history". All I know is that I have all of my Air Units set to fly missions All of the Time, and my total Sortie rate is less than half of that of the Allied Sortie rate.
In any event, venting aside, the ground phase of the turn displayed the advantage that AuTiger has at this point in the game since he can send his troops anywhere without fear of any air attacks on them. First off, the massive and totally untouched Allied forces at Mandalay captured the base easily. I expected my forces to hold up a little better, but then since the Allied Forces had Never been bombed at all there was no Jungle or Malarial effects evident. So Burma and the rest of the SEA are pretty much open to an Allied Blitzkrieg since it is unlikely that my planes will follow my orders any more elsewhere. (I am having the exact same problems in my other pbems against other opponents.)
And the troops in Koepang were easily defeated, but thanks to yet another pointless "historical rule" in the Game, they weren't destroyed although they don't have an escape path and have no supplies. So AuTiger will be able to get more "free" training yet again.
So the pbem continues along in the "Total Waste of Time" category, but AuTiger is enjoying himself, so I will continue to send turns to him. If nothing else, I am curious to see if the Allied forces ever become slowed down thanks to Supply Line issues. Also, I want to continue to observe AuTiger's tactics so that I can figure out ways to counter similar tactics in my other pbems.
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RE: The Allies Recapture Mandalay and Koepang
December 18, 1942 - A massive number of DMS ships were busy sweeping mines at Koepang again overnight. This is another example of the advantage of AuTiger's strategy of risking none of his ships until he was ready to start to advance in a serious manner. In our earlier pbems, and typically in other pbems that I've played as the Japanese player, Allied ships were used extensively in the early part of the game and suffered fairly high losses, particularly among the lighter combat ships. Thus, in most of my other pbems the KB has "feasted" upon DMS, DD and other light combat ships.
But in this pbem AuTiger pulled his ships far back from the Front and relied solely upon his LBA to interdict my invasions, wear down my Air Units and attrite my Naval Forces. His ships only came out to battle when I went far beyond the Front Lines, such as during my Indian "excursion", when I lingered too long in the Far South Pacific, and during the Aleutian campaign. Sure, Allied ships are taking damage and losses now, but there are many more ships available at this time to AuTiger in this pbem than there would have been in the first couple of pbems that we started where he moved his ships up forward immediately and was punished severely for that.
The "moral" of this story is simple: don't make fun of, nor ignore, the "Sir Robin" strategy if you want to win as the Allies.
Otherwise, things were relatively quiet. My Bombardment TF hit Canton, but caused no damage other than casualties. That is with the TF consisting of 2 BBs, a CA and 3 CLs. AuTiger even left his planes (fighters and patrol planes) at the base and none were touched. A lot of Shore Guns fired back at my ships, so I was concerned that I would have a number of badly damaged ships again as with the bombardment of Cairns, but surprisingly enough the damage to my ships was minimal. I guess that there are lighter Shore Guns at Canton than at Cairns. What this tells me is that I should save my combat ships for Surface Combat and stop trying nuisance bombardments.
The day phase showed that fighters were already in place at Koepang and Mandalay. AuTiger has so many troops at both bases (including tons of Engineers) that the damage to the facilities, which would have taken my troops weeks to repair, was fixed overnight. More of my Bettys and Zeros flew in to try to attack some of the multitude of ships that are at the port, but the P-40s and P-38s on CAP broke up the attacks and none of my bombers scored any hits.
As an aside, I got the snarky idea that maybe I ought to turn over "control" of all of the areas of the game to the "Computer", because when I play the AI the sorts of attacks that I am making unsuccessfully are usually successful for the AI. So I "threatened" to do that in my email to AuTiger.
AuTiger's victorious forces at Koepang attacked my stragglers again this turn. Thanks once again to the unfathomably bizarre logic behind the programming in the Game, the same forces that achieved "astronomical" odds against my units last turn only received 2:1 odds this turn in the exact same location, and the casualty numbers were almost equal.
In other news, my troops in Burma are retreating in good order and as of the moment are not being followed by the victorious Allies. Also, the 116th/A finally reached Haiphong and is unloading. Thus its year-long saga to rejoin its colleagues is almost over. (Can they still make it to Nanning by Christmas?)
And the KB reached Soerabaja without any problems. Unfortunately, the ever-thirsty ships drank up all of the fuel in the base without topping up their tanks, so I had to start to fill up a fuel TF at Palembang to send down to finish the fueling.
I moved all of my planes off of the CVs. I was surprised to find that most of the Val and Kate units had more pilots than planes. So that meant that I could add planes without drawing upon garbage pilots. I want to leave the ships in Soerabaja until the floatation damage in a couple of the ships is repaired, so I am taking the chance that AuTiger won't immediately move his 4Es forward to the Level 4 base at Koepang and start to Port Bomb Soerabaja. I do have a lot of my best fighters in place and on CAP, so maybe I'll get away with this.
But in this pbem AuTiger pulled his ships far back from the Front and relied solely upon his LBA to interdict my invasions, wear down my Air Units and attrite my Naval Forces. His ships only came out to battle when I went far beyond the Front Lines, such as during my Indian "excursion", when I lingered too long in the Far South Pacific, and during the Aleutian campaign. Sure, Allied ships are taking damage and losses now, but there are many more ships available at this time to AuTiger in this pbem than there would have been in the first couple of pbems that we started where he moved his ships up forward immediately and was punished severely for that.
The "moral" of this story is simple: don't make fun of, nor ignore, the "Sir Robin" strategy if you want to win as the Allies.
Otherwise, things were relatively quiet. My Bombardment TF hit Canton, but caused no damage other than casualties. That is with the TF consisting of 2 BBs, a CA and 3 CLs. AuTiger even left his planes (fighters and patrol planes) at the base and none were touched. A lot of Shore Guns fired back at my ships, so I was concerned that I would have a number of badly damaged ships again as with the bombardment of Cairns, but surprisingly enough the damage to my ships was minimal. I guess that there are lighter Shore Guns at Canton than at Cairns. What this tells me is that I should save my combat ships for Surface Combat and stop trying nuisance bombardments.
The day phase showed that fighters were already in place at Koepang and Mandalay. AuTiger has so many troops at both bases (including tons of Engineers) that the damage to the facilities, which would have taken my troops weeks to repair, was fixed overnight. More of my Bettys and Zeros flew in to try to attack some of the multitude of ships that are at the port, but the P-40s and P-38s on CAP broke up the attacks and none of my bombers scored any hits.
As an aside, I got the snarky idea that maybe I ought to turn over "control" of all of the areas of the game to the "Computer", because when I play the AI the sorts of attacks that I am making unsuccessfully are usually successful for the AI. So I "threatened" to do that in my email to AuTiger.
AuTiger's victorious forces at Koepang attacked my stragglers again this turn. Thanks once again to the unfathomably bizarre logic behind the programming in the Game, the same forces that achieved "astronomical" odds against my units last turn only received 2:1 odds this turn in the exact same location, and the casualty numbers were almost equal.
In other news, my troops in Burma are retreating in good order and as of the moment are not being followed by the victorious Allies. Also, the 116th/A finally reached Haiphong and is unloading. Thus its year-long saga to rejoin its colleagues is almost over. (Can they still make it to Nanning by Christmas?)
And the KB reached Soerabaja without any problems. Unfortunately, the ever-thirsty ships drank up all of the fuel in the base without topping up their tanks, so I had to start to fill up a fuel TF at Palembang to send down to finish the fueling.
I moved all of my planes off of the CVs. I was surprised to find that most of the Val and Kate units had more pilots than planes. So that meant that I could add planes without drawing upon garbage pilots. I want to leave the ships in Soerabaja until the floatation damage in a couple of the ships is repaired, so I am taking the chance that AuTiger won't immediately move his 4Es forward to the Level 4 base at Koepang and start to Port Bomb Soerabaja. I do have a lot of my best fighters in place and on CAP, so maybe I'll get away with this.
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Air Battles over Koepang
December 19, 1942 - The night phase found one of my MSWs sweeping mines from Victoria Point and another finding some fresh mines at Rabaul. There was no further Allied minesweeping activity at Koepang because AuTiger's multiple flotillas of minesweepers cleared the waters the previous turn.
Despite generally terrible weather across the top third of the Map AuTiger's B-25s took off from Akyab this turn and harassed my retiring troops along the road to the south of Mandalay. Surprisingly, my troops put up a lot of flak, damaging many of the Mitchells and shooting down two. They seemed to put up more flak out on the road than they did when they were entrenched in Mandalay. (Go figure.)
My Bettys and Zeros attempted to hit the ships at Koepang again this turn, but once again they couldn't get any hits even though most were able to fight their way through the P-40s and P-38s. I'm using my best pilots here so my fighter losses are acceptable and they shoot down a few Allied fighters on each attempt. It's only too bad that my bomber pilots can't seem to hit anything.
I got another surprise with my Naval pilots at Soerabaja this turn; a number of the grounded air units had an additional pilot who wasn't there the last turn. So I added an additional plane to each air unit that had the "bonus" pilot. I have "Upgrades" and "Replacements" both set to "Off" for all of my air units, so I have no idea from where these extra pilots (they have decent experience) are arriving. Oh well, I won't complain - the Game has stuck it to me so often that I "deserve" some sort of break.
BTW - my ships are repairing nicely in Soerabaja and I should be able to sail off with them soon. I've got my "Slow KB" on its way to join the main force, so I will soon have a reasonably capable "Almost KB" available to use against the next sortie by the Allied Fleets. (I will move my more damaged CVs to Singapore and replace their A6M2s with A6M3as while the ships are repaired.)
In other news, the Allied forces at Koepang tried another Deliberate attack on my stragglers, but although it did a better job my troops avoided the "Death Blow". I've got a sub sailing in next turn. If it isn't blown to bits by all of the escorts at the Base I will attempt to recover a fragment of one of the units - assuming that my stragglers aren't wiped out next turn.
BTW II - One of the things that is keeping my interest in this particular pbem is that I am supposed to finally start to receive Oscar IIs in January. I spent an ungodly amount of supplies, resources and so on in order to expand the R&D for the Oscar II, but despite having almost 300 Oscar IIs under R&D the arrival date didn't move up a single day. Never-the-less, it will be good to finally get these planes. Sure, they won't be a "cure-all" for my problems, but they do mean that I will finally be able to get rid of my good-for-nothing Nates.
Despite generally terrible weather across the top third of the Map AuTiger's B-25s took off from Akyab this turn and harassed my retiring troops along the road to the south of Mandalay. Surprisingly, my troops put up a lot of flak, damaging many of the Mitchells and shooting down two. They seemed to put up more flak out on the road than they did when they were entrenched in Mandalay. (Go figure.)
My Bettys and Zeros attempted to hit the ships at Koepang again this turn, but once again they couldn't get any hits even though most were able to fight their way through the P-40s and P-38s. I'm using my best pilots here so my fighter losses are acceptable and they shoot down a few Allied fighters on each attempt. It's only too bad that my bomber pilots can't seem to hit anything.
I got another surprise with my Naval pilots at Soerabaja this turn; a number of the grounded air units had an additional pilot who wasn't there the last turn. So I added an additional plane to each air unit that had the "bonus" pilot. I have "Upgrades" and "Replacements" both set to "Off" for all of my air units, so I have no idea from where these extra pilots (they have decent experience) are arriving. Oh well, I won't complain - the Game has stuck it to me so often that I "deserve" some sort of break.
BTW - my ships are repairing nicely in Soerabaja and I should be able to sail off with them soon. I've got my "Slow KB" on its way to join the main force, so I will soon have a reasonably capable "Almost KB" available to use against the next sortie by the Allied Fleets. (I will move my more damaged CVs to Singapore and replace their A6M2s with A6M3as while the ships are repaired.)
In other news, the Allied forces at Koepang tried another Deliberate attack on my stragglers, but although it did a better job my troops avoided the "Death Blow". I've got a sub sailing in next turn. If it isn't blown to bits by all of the escorts at the Base I will attempt to recover a fragment of one of the units - assuming that my stragglers aren't wiped out next turn.
BTW II - One of the things that is keeping my interest in this particular pbem is that I am supposed to finally start to receive Oscar IIs in January. I spent an ungodly amount of supplies, resources and so on in order to expand the R&D for the Oscar II, but despite having almost 300 Oscar IIs under R&D the arrival date didn't move up a single day. Never-the-less, it will be good to finally get these planes. Sure, they won't be a "cure-all" for my problems, but they do mean that I will finally be able to get rid of my good-for-nothing Nates.
RE: Air Battles over Koepang
The AA thing is a known bug/feature and really annoying.
I suppose that you could make an argument that AA in bases would be in 'known' positions and avoided, while on the trail it could be anywhere.
That could actually be it, in a roundabout way - the detection level of AA off bases is probably way down than on a base.
I suppose that you could make an argument that AA in bases would be in 'known' positions and avoided, while on the trail it could be anywhere.
That could actually be it, in a roundabout way - the detection level of AA off bases is probably way down than on a base.
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RE: Air Battles over Koepang
ORIGINAL: bbbf
The AA thing is a known bug/feature and really annoying.
I suppose that you could make an argument that AA in bases would be in 'known' positions and avoided, while on the trail it could be anywhere.
That could actually be it, in a roundabout way - the detection level of AA off bases is probably way down than on a base.
I wasn't aware of this before. Thanks for the info. (Yet another weird and wonderful thing to remember about this Game...)
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10,000+ Hits
BTW - I want to thank all the kind folks who have been looking into this AAR. I never expected to get so many hits. I also never thought that I would be closing in on 500 posts in this AAR either.
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RE: 10,000+ Hits
I'm still enjoying it, Dive, even though I know you're getting a bit down with the game and your situation. I think you're doing pretty darn well, and I'm still learning a lot from reading. Keep it going! [8D]
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RE: 10,000+ Hits
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I'm still enjoying it, Dive, even though I know you're getting a bit down with the game and your situation. I think you're doing pretty darn well, and I'm still learning a lot from reading. Keep it going! [8D]
Thanks for your support. I'm glad that nice folks like you are getting some enjoyment from this AAR.
