26 Oct 42
12 B-24s bombed Tsuyung but found 12 Tojos on CAP. The small number of Tojos did very well with elite pilots. 7 Liberators were shot down. Had a very interesting message:
Okamoto T. in a Ki-44-IIa Tojo makes head on attack ... B-24D Liberator destroyed
When the message flashed up during combat, I thought it was a suicide attack, the first of the war. I was amazed to find out that no Tojos were lost! Just a "head on attack" apparently, as it reads.
The sub that was tracking enemy tankers moving east from Canton Island moved right past them. The tankers did move due east, but only 6 hexes, not 8. I'll move into the perfect position today, if they don't change course. With consecutive days spotted, they'll probably change course.
Nakajima HA-44 engines were accelerated to 4/43. They are used almost exclusively for the B6N1 Jill, which is slated to arrive on 3/43. All of the big carriers have Kates that convert to B6N1, and there are 4 land based units that need the model, as well as 4 other land units that appear later. So, a fair number of Jills are needed.
It's worth noting that the B6N2 Jill is slated to arrive on 10/43, so the B6N1 run won't be very long. The B6N2 Jill is slightly faster but more importantly has a service rating of 1, while the B6N1 has a rating of 2.
Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
27 Oct 42
I-25 was the sub tracking the enemy tankers east of Canton Island. Near Jarvis Island, the sub was located by SC-704 and hit with a depth charge and a mousetrap. No other ships were spotted. The sub chaser could have been sent out to protect the tanker convoy, or it could have been the escort already in the convoy. Either way, it doesn't matter now. I-25 is SYS 27/FLOT 54-19/ENG 1-0/FIRE 0 and will try to make it to Kwajalein.
I did the usual bombing: Bandoeng, Tuyun, Kunming, near Lanchow. Hit troops at Ankang again. Can see a solid line of Chinese now running north to south through Ankang, west of Sian. With the Chinese lines compressed, it's easier to hold a continuous line. Most Chinese don't have supply, but any big advance I make has to be on the roads, and they are strongly defended and/or running through defensible terrain. I don't plan on advancing further in the Sian area, but I want to show that I may be trying to.
A Glen sub spotted a carrier in a task force at Pearl Harbor. Triple heavy activity SigInt at Pearl shows a CVE in port, as well as 216 ships there. It's tempting to think about a Pearl Harbor raid with KB. But I've done it before. In a previous game, I did 2 raids after the December 7 strike. Both turned out less than ideal. My opponent had battleships in port, and they soaked up most of the bombs. There were over 200 ships in port in that game also, but most strikes went after the battleships, which were badly damaged in both late raids. Hundreds of cargo ships went unscathed. The battleships were damaged badly, as if I had done the initial Pearl Harbor strike 3 times, but in the big picture, with nothing sunk, it would have been better to have hit the many transport ships there.
And the flak at Pearl now would be very strong. This is a DBB game, so flak is enhanced from stock. And more realistic, in my opinion.
A Pearl Harbor raid would be fun to try to execute, but the odds of hitting and sinking carriers is small. And the risk is high. It would make OPilot more cautious though, and that is always one of my goals.
I-25 was the sub tracking the enemy tankers east of Canton Island. Near Jarvis Island, the sub was located by SC-704 and hit with a depth charge and a mousetrap. No other ships were spotted. The sub chaser could have been sent out to protect the tanker convoy, or it could have been the escort already in the convoy. Either way, it doesn't matter now. I-25 is SYS 27/FLOT 54-19/ENG 1-0/FIRE 0 and will try to make it to Kwajalein.
I did the usual bombing: Bandoeng, Tuyun, Kunming, near Lanchow. Hit troops at Ankang again. Can see a solid line of Chinese now running north to south through Ankang, west of Sian. With the Chinese lines compressed, it's easier to hold a continuous line. Most Chinese don't have supply, but any big advance I make has to be on the roads, and they are strongly defended and/or running through defensible terrain. I don't plan on advancing further in the Sian area, but I want to show that I may be trying to.
A Glen sub spotted a carrier in a task force at Pearl Harbor. Triple heavy activity SigInt at Pearl shows a CVE in port, as well as 216 ships there. It's tempting to think about a Pearl Harbor raid with KB. But I've done it before. In a previous game, I did 2 raids after the December 7 strike. Both turned out less than ideal. My opponent had battleships in port, and they soaked up most of the bombs. There were over 200 ships in port in that game also, but most strikes went after the battleships, which were badly damaged in both late raids. Hundreds of cargo ships went unscathed. The battleships were damaged badly, as if I had done the initial Pearl Harbor strike 3 times, but in the big picture, with nothing sunk, it would have been better to have hit the many transport ships there.
And the flak at Pearl now would be very strong. This is a DBB game, so flak is enhanced from stock. And more realistic, in my opinion.
A Pearl Harbor raid would be fun to try to execute, but the odds of hitting and sinking carriers is small. And the risk is high. It would make OPilot more cautious though, and that is always one of my goals.
RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
28 Oct 42
Spotted a sub northeast of Soerabaja. This isn't a usual patrol area. I have air ASW at Soerabaja and this looks like a sub passing through. There's a chance it is the damaged sub from a few days ago heading south towards Australia. I'm already patrolling the two nearest straits that it would pass through, and I ordered two more ASW patrols out of Soerabaja, with a few destroyers looking at the shallow hexes southeast of the current position. It's a small game in a very large war, but these little things make it all the more enjoyable.
A couple of Chinese units are trying to flank my most northern base in China, Ansi (I think). I have a strong enough unit there to hold it, but he's going around it, probably to cut the road. I have armor moving up to the south, and the armor will guard the flank. But the armor was guarding the next town to the south, so another unit is on the way to that town, and it's about 6 hexes away on a trail. I'm ok unless other Chinese units appear moving north from the Lanchow area. Lilys are moved up north and will bomb the flanking units. No defensible terrain in that area.
Spotted a sub northeast of Soerabaja. This isn't a usual patrol area. I have air ASW at Soerabaja and this looks like a sub passing through. There's a chance it is the damaged sub from a few days ago heading south towards Australia. I'm already patrolling the two nearest straits that it would pass through, and I ordered two more ASW patrols out of Soerabaja, with a few destroyers looking at the shallow hexes southeast of the current position. It's a small game in a very large war, but these little things make it all the more enjoyable.
A couple of Chinese units are trying to flank my most northern base in China, Ansi (I think). I have a strong enough unit there to hold it, but he's going around it, probably to cut the road. I have armor moving up to the south, and the armor will guard the flank. But the armor was guarding the next town to the south, so another unit is on the way to that town, and it's about 6 hexes away on a trail. I'm ok unless other Chinese units appear moving north from the Lanchow area. Lilys are moved up north and will bomb the flanking units. No defensible terrain in that area.
RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
29 Oct 42
I-18 hit Australian destroyer Nepal with a torpedo just west of Lord Howe Island. The ship was not seen sinking. Also spotted was cruisers Canberra and Hobart and 4 other destroyers. I-18 took a shot at destroyer Norman later in the day but missed with 2 torpedoes.
Northwest of Raoul Island, I-169 fired 2 torpedoes at US destroyer Phelps but missed. Cruiser Trenton and 3 other destroyers were spotted. This location is on a route between Suva and New Zealand, but these ships could be going anywhere.
Dutch sub O16 sank AMc Genchi Maru southwest of Balikpapan. The tiny minesweeper was doing its job in the shallows that run to the southwest from Balikpapan.
S-41 sank xAKL Gozan Maru at Milne Bay. I have a task force with small cargo ships unloading supply there. Sub chasers to the northeast are sent to Milne Bay.
I-18 hit Australian destroyer Nepal with a torpedo just west of Lord Howe Island. The ship was not seen sinking. Also spotted was cruisers Canberra and Hobart and 4 other destroyers. I-18 took a shot at destroyer Norman later in the day but missed with 2 torpedoes.
Northwest of Raoul Island, I-169 fired 2 torpedoes at US destroyer Phelps but missed. Cruiser Trenton and 3 other destroyers were spotted. This location is on a route between Suva and New Zealand, but these ships could be going anywhere.
Dutch sub O16 sank AMc Genchi Maru southwest of Balikpapan. The tiny minesweeper was doing its job in the shallows that run to the southwest from Balikpapan.
S-41 sank xAKL Gozan Maru at Milne Bay. I have a task force with small cargo ships unloading supply there. Sub chasers to the northeast are sent to Milne Bay.
RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
30 Oct 42
I-17 was headed south, passing just to the west of Perth, intending to set up a patrol further south, near Albany. It ran into DE Starling with at least 2 xAKs. Starling hit it with a depth charge. Now the sub will return to Soerabaja for repairs.
Seawolf was hit by 2 depth charges by DMS W-11 at Tanahdjampea, an island south of Celebes. W-11 was just passing through. Seawolf may have been sitting on the Allied dot base, waiting for a clean-up invasion. I've been doing a lot of that lately.
Sargo spotted xAK Nitimei Maru at Boela. The cargo ship was unloading supply with 2 other cargo ships, without an escort. They had already unloaded an engineer unit. The escort was with other ships carrying engineers destined for Babar and Saumlaki to the south. Sargo fired many torpedoes at the ship. All missed. 4 shells from the sub did hit the cargo ship, doing 9 FLOT damage, while Nitimei Maru hit the sub with a shell, damaging some torpedo tubes. Now all 3 cargo ships are empty and are disbanded at Boela.
There is more enemy flak at Kunming now, having come from Chungking. The airfield has been damaged heavily for months now, but the base still has supply.
I-17 was headed south, passing just to the west of Perth, intending to set up a patrol further south, near Albany. It ran into DE Starling with at least 2 xAKs. Starling hit it with a depth charge. Now the sub will return to Soerabaja for repairs.
Seawolf was hit by 2 depth charges by DMS W-11 at Tanahdjampea, an island south of Celebes. W-11 was just passing through. Seawolf may have been sitting on the Allied dot base, waiting for a clean-up invasion. I've been doing a lot of that lately.
Sargo spotted xAK Nitimei Maru at Boela. The cargo ship was unloading supply with 2 other cargo ships, without an escort. They had already unloaded an engineer unit. The escort was with other ships carrying engineers destined for Babar and Saumlaki to the south. Sargo fired many torpedoes at the ship. All missed. 4 shells from the sub did hit the cargo ship, doing 9 FLOT damage, while Nitimei Maru hit the sub with a shell, damaging some torpedo tubes. Now all 3 cargo ships are empty and are disbanded at Boela.
There is more enemy flak at Kunming now, having come from Chungking. The airfield has been damaged heavily for months now, but the base still has supply.
RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
31 Oct 42
Sub chasers at Milne Bay spotted S-41 but couldn't get an attack on it.
No enemy CAP at Akyab. Moderate damage done to the airfield.
Another month done. No sign of the US juggernaut yet. I've yet to see a US Marine division. Did see a USMC regiment take Midway, but that's been it. They are out there preparing for something. Just a matter of when OPilot decides it is time to start rolling.
Sub chasers at Milne Bay spotted S-41 but couldn't get an attack on it.
No enemy CAP at Akyab. Moderate damage done to the airfield.
Another month done. No sign of the US juggernaut yet. I've yet to see a US Marine division. Did see a USMC regiment take Midway, but that's been it. They are out there preparing for something. Just a matter of when OPilot decides it is time to start rolling.
RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
1 Nov 42
Spearfish missed xAK Hokuriku Maru with 2 torpedoes at Manokwari. The ship was temporarily unescorted while another xAK is reloading a unit fragment at Manokwari. OPilot sees my behind-the-lines cleanup and moves subs in quickly.
I haven't presented a lot of graphics lately, with little activity taking place. Here's a graphical summary of all of the areas of the war.
Spearfish missed xAK Hokuriku Maru with 2 torpedoes at Manokwari. The ship was temporarily unescorted while another xAK is reloading a unit fragment at Manokwari. OPilot sees my behind-the-lines cleanup and moves subs in quickly.
I haven't presented a lot of graphics lately, with little activity taking place. Here's a graphical summary of all of the areas of the war.
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2 Nov 42
Cruiser Nashville and a few destroyers bombarded Adak Island, causing minimal base damage and destroying a Zero. Destroyer Crosby hit a mine.
At Sorong, Spearfish spotted unescorted Igasa Maru and fired many torpedoes at it. Many missed. A few were duds. 3 shells hit the cargo ship, causing 9 FLOT damage and causing 23 casualties. One shell hit Spearfish, ending the sub's attack. The ship has a ground unit fragment on it, and was meeting up with an escort and another ship at Sorong. The ships and the unit will go to Taberfane.
Bombed Australian troops near Daly Waters. OPilot may try flanking the town with small Aussie units.
The HA-43 engine was accelerated to 8/45. I checked what planes use that very late war engine. The primary ones are Sams and late model Franks. However, I discovered that neither plane is available in a PDU OFF game, with no units appearing with them and no units upgrading to them. I hadn't altered the default number of HA-43 engine builds. I think there are 10.
Cruiser Nashville and a few destroyers bombarded Adak Island, causing minimal base damage and destroying a Zero. Destroyer Crosby hit a mine.
At Sorong, Spearfish spotted unescorted Igasa Maru and fired many torpedoes at it. Many missed. A few were duds. 3 shells hit the cargo ship, causing 9 FLOT damage and causing 23 casualties. One shell hit Spearfish, ending the sub's attack. The ship has a ground unit fragment on it, and was meeting up with an escort and another ship at Sorong. The ships and the unit will go to Taberfane.
Bombed Australian troops near Daly Waters. OPilot may try flanking the town with small Aussie units.
The HA-43 engine was accelerated to 8/45. I checked what planes use that very late war engine. The primary ones are Sams and late model Franks. However, I discovered that neither plane is available in a PDU OFF game, with no units appearing with them and no units upgrading to them. I hadn't altered the default number of HA-43 engine builds. I think there are 10.
RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A)
ORIGINAL: apbarog
The HA-43 engine was accelerated to 8/45. I checked what planes use that very late war engine. The primary ones are Sams and late model Franks. However, I discovered that neither plane is available in a PDU OFF game, with no units appearing with them and no units upgrading to them. I hadn't altered the default number of HA-43 engine builds. I think there are 10.
Thats not true apbarong - a few units upgrade to those late model planes, for example the Junyo's zero sentai. If you have Tracker, select the planes currently flying and mouse over the PDU off upgrade list. If you select the Sams and late model Franks in "upgrading" it probably won't show any as there are intervening upgrades that have to occur first.
At least in DBB-C.
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ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer
ORIGINAL: apbarog
The HA-43 engine was accelerated to 8/45. I checked what planes use that very late war engine. The primary ones are Sams and late model Franks. However, I discovered that neither plane is available in a PDU OFF game, with no units appearing with them and no units upgrading to them. I hadn't altered the default number of HA-43 engine builds. I think there are 10.
Thats not true apbarong - a few units upgrade to those late model planes, for example the Junyo's zero sentai. If you have Tracker, select the planes currently flying and mouse over the PDU off upgrade list. If you select the Sams and late model Franks in "upgrading" it probably won't show any as there are intervening upgrades that have to occur first.
At least in DBB-C.
I see what you are saying IdahoNYer. Why is it that if I change the plane type on that screen to the Sam I don't see any groups flying it (obviously) or upgrading to it? Is it because it is multiple steps down the road of upgrading? That is what I've always used for this determination. I'd never seen the mouse-over before for the PDU-OFF column. Thanks for that.