Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Tookatee]

You're talking in it.

[crezking]

Requesting to add:

ELM 2288ER AD-STAR (Fixed) Philippine Air force – 3x – 2019
ELM 2288MR AD-STAR (Mobile) Philippine Air force - 2x -


ELM 2106NG Philippine Air force - 1x -

*Can't add links yet*

[crezking]

Requesting to add:

ELM 2288ER AD-STAR (Fixed) Philippine Air force – 3x – 2019
ELM 2288MR AD-STAR (Mobile) Philippine Air force - 2x -


ELM 2106NG Philippine Air force - 1x


*Can't post links yet*

[crezking]

More incoming Philippine Assets to add:

Philippine Navy: Jose Rizal Class Frigate - 2x
FF150 BRP Jose Rizal
FF151 BRP Antonio Luna
AgustaWestland AW-159 - 2x -


Edit: Disregard Jose Rizal Class Frigate request. Already been logged..

ORIGINAL: stilesw

I'm not sure if these have been requested before; apologies for any duplications...

Jose Rizal-class frigate
Philippine Navy, service dates: 2020-


BRP Conrado Yap (PS-39)
Philippine Navy, service dates: 2019-
<-- former South Korean corvette, a Pohang-class corvette; not sure if they are changing any of the weapons or not

Thanks for considering these.

Mark,

Logged for possible future inclusion. Thanks,

-Wayne Stiles

[crezking]

Royal Malaysian Navy: Maharaja Lela Class Frigate (LCS) - 6x -

[crezking]

*adding more details later*

Brahmos Land Based Mobile Launchers - Anti-ship Missiles (Russia/India)

[Mattzo12]

Hello,

I may be missing things here, as I am rather new to Command, but as of the latest build (1.15.6) there are some oddities.

First, the F-35.

Empty aircraft weights according to Lockheed Martin (as of April '19) are:

A - 29,300 lbs / 13,300 kg
B - 32,300 lbs / 14,700 kg
C - 34,800 lbs / 15,800 kg

However, in the database the aircraft weights are:

A - 13,300 kg [Fine]
B - 15,000 kg [300 kg overweight]
C - 14,500 kg [1,300 kg underweight]

The C in particular is a considerable distance out. (Would this effect range ingame?)

Additionally, the RAF F-35Bs have a ferry range of 3,200nm (DB #3245 and #25647). The Italian and USMC F-35Bs have ferry ranges of 1,700nm, which makes more sense in context of the A's 2,400nm and C's 2,550nm.

Secondly, the Queen Elizabeth class carrier.

- The database viewer lists her with the Type 1045 radar (SAMPSON). She does not - she carries a Type 1046 / S1850M. [Edit: I see this has been logged already]
- She is listed with 3 x 30mm DS30M cannon. She will carry 4 when they are fitted in 2020.
- Less important notes. Displacement is also out, currently reading 60,000 standard and 65,600 full. A FoI request from January revealed that 65,000 is the displacement upon delivery (so empty) and therefore full load is likely to be >70,000. Crew is another one. My understanding is that 1,450 crew is an old number. Accomodation is for 1,600, including specific space for 250 EMF, but I acknowledge there's flexibility here. I just saw 'Troops - 0' and thought it worth mentioning.

Thirdly, the River Class Batch 2.

- Top speed is 24 knots, not the 20 knots currently in the database
- Space for 50 EMF

As said, may be missing something so happy to be corrected (and these may not actually be important for the sim), but things I noted.

Oh, and the Chinook is operated by the RAF, not the Army!

[crezking]

ORIGINAL: duelok11

I would like to add the newest addition of the Philippine Navy Fleet, the donated Pohang class corvette Flight III (ASW Variant), ExROKS Chungju PCC-762 from South Korea and their two newest lynx wildcat

Talks of 2 more Pohang class corvette to be donated by South Korea. And 2 brand new corvette in contract negotiation with HHI

[stilesw]

Latest build (1.15.6) there are some oddities.

Matthew,

Logged.

-Wayne Stiles

[crezking]

Pls consider:

Philippine Coast guard:
OPV 8301 Gabriela Silang -1x- 2019
MRRV 4401 Tubbataha [Parola Class] -10x- 2018..
FPB 2401 Boracay [Boracay Class] -4x- 2019

Links to be added when able..

[crezking]

Links to follow:

KA Tun Azizan [Mobile Sea Base] Malaysian Navy, 2015

Hypothetical:
MTC Mobile Offshore Base Station, Malaysian Navy

[crezking]

Sorry for multiple postings. Im trying to get my 10 post to be able to add links. 1 more post.

[crezking]

Del Pilar Class OPV upgrade - Previous Frigate.
Upgrade includes:
CMS, HMS, ESM and sensors/weapons integrations. Info to follow.

[KLAB]

REQUEST UPDATE TO THE FOLLOWING AIRCRAFT LOADOUTS AND AMENDED WEAPONS please

[NEW ENTRY] AIRCRAFT - Ka-52 Hokum B -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2015+ Syria
Copy of #2929 Ka-52 Hokum B -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2012
ADD FOLLOWING SENSORS/DAS - 360 lower hemispherical coverage;
#5503 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DIRCM] -- Ka-52
#5502 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DECM] -- Ka-52
#5501 L-370-5 Vitebsk [MAWS] -- Ka-52
#5500 L-370-5 Vitebsk [LWR] -- Ka-52
#5499 L-370-5 Vitebsk [RWR] -- Ka-52
[NEW LOADOUT] for the above: Use existing DB3k ENTRY #15675 (IT IS OPERATIONAL!)

#15675 Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8KO 80mm Rockets -- Not operational?

12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V] ( Not 16 X AT-9 AS CURRENTLY LISTED. APU-6 PYLON USED.)
40 X #1025 S-8KO 80mm Rocket [HEAT] – 1985

[NEW ENTRY] AIRCRAFT - Mi-24VM Hind E -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2015 Syria, Mi-35M
Copy #458 Mi-24VM Hind E -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2012, Domestic Mi-35M

ADD FOLLOWING SENSORS/DAS - 360 lower hemispherical coverage;
#5503 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DIRCM] -- Ka-52
#5502 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DECM] -- Ka-52
#5501 L-370-5 Vitebsk [MAWS] -- Ka-52
#5500 L-370-5 Vitebsk [LWR] -- Ka-52
#5499 L-370-5 Vitebsk [RWR] -- Ka-52


[NEW ENTRY] AIRCRAFT - Mi-28N Havoc -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2015+ Syria
Copy #463 Mi-28N Havoc -- Russia [1992-] (Army),
ADD FOLLOWING SENSORS/DAS - 360 lower hemispherical coverage;
#5503 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DIRCM] -- Ka-52
#5502 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DECM] -- Ka-52
#5501 L-370-5 Vitebsk [MAWS] -- Ka-52
#5500 L-370-5 Vitebsk [LWR] -- Ka-52
#5499 L-370-5 Vitebsk [RWR] -- Ka-52

[NEW ENTRY] AIRCRAFT - Mi-8AMTSh Hip H Russia [1992-] (Army) 2015 Syria
Copy #4568 Mi-8AMTSh Hip H – Russia [1992-] (Army),
ADD FOLLOWING SENSORS/DAS – 360 lower hemispherical coverage;
#5503 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DIRCM] – Ka-52
#5502 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DECM] – Ka-52
#5501 L-370-5 Vitebsk [MAWS] – Ka-52
#5500 L-370-5 Vitebsk [LWR] – Ka-52
#5499 L-370-5 Vitebsk [RWR] – Ka-52

[UPDATE EXISTING ENTRY] AIRCRAFT
#2930 Ka-52K Hokum B – Russia [1992-] (Navy), 2016, Naval
ADD FOLLOWING SENSORS/DAS – 360 lower hemispherical coverage;
#5503 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DIRCM] – Ka-52
#5502 L-370-5 Vitebsk [DECM] – Ka-52
#5501 L-370-5 Vitebsk [MAWS] – Ka-52
#5500 L-370-5 Vitebsk [LWR] – Ka-52
#5499 L-370-5 Vitebsk [RWR] – Ka-52
[NEW LOADOUT] for the above: Use existing DB3k ENTRY #15675 (IT IS OPERATIONAL)
#15675 Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8KO 80mm Rockets – Not operational?
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 X #1025 S-8KO 80mm Rocket [HEAT] – 1985


[NEW LOADOUT]for #2930 Ka-52K Hokum B – Russia [1992-] (Navy), 2016, Naval
AND ALL VERSIONS OF #2929 Ka-52 Hokum B -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2015+ Syria

# Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8T 80mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2911 S-8T 80mm Rocket [Tandem HEAT]

# Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8D 80mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2910 S-8D 80mm Rocket [FAE]

# Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8D 80mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2909 S-8B 80mm Rocket [Penetrator]

# Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13D 122mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2908 S-13D 122mm Rocket [FAE] – 1996

# Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13OF 122mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2907 S-13OF 122mm Rocket [FAE] – 1996

# Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13T 122mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2906 S-13T 122mm Rocket [Tandem HEAT]

# Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13B 122mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x # 1061 S-13B 122mm Rocket [Penetrator] -- 1984

[NEW LOADOUT] FOR ALL VERSIONS AND COPIES OF
#458 Mi-24VM Hind E -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2015 Syria, Domestic Mi-35M

# Mi-24VM, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8T 80mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2911 S-8T 80mm Rocket [Tandem HEAT] (2 Pack of 20)

# Mi-24VM, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8D 80mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2910 S-8D 80mm Rocket [FAE]

# Mi-24VM, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8D 80mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2909 S-8B 80mm Rocket [Penetrator]

# Mi-24VM, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13D 122mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2908 S-13D 122mm Rocket [FAE] – 1996 (2 Pack of 5)

# Mi-24VM, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13OF 122mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2907 S-13OF 122mm Rocket [FAE] – 1996

# Mi-24VM, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13T 122mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2906 S-13T 122mm Rocket [Tandem HEAT]

# Mi-24VM, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13B 122mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x # 1061 S-13B 122mm Rocket [Penetrator] -- 1984

[NEW LOADOUT] FOR ALL VERSIONS AND COPIES OF #463 Mi-28N Havoc -- Russia [1992-] (Army),
# Mi-28N, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8T 80mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2911 S-8T 80mm Rocket [Tandem HEAT] (2 Pack of 20)

# Mi-28N, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8D 80mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2910 S-8D 80mm Rocket [FAE]

# Mi-28N, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8D 80mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
40 x #2909 S-8B 80mm Rocket [Penetrator]

# Mi-28N, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13D 122mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2908 S-13D 122mm Rocket [FAE] – 1996 (2 Pack of 5)

# Mi-28N, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13OF 122mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2907 S-13OF 122mm Rocket [FAE] – 1996

# Mi-28N, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13T 122mm Rockets
16 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x #2906 S-13T 122mm Rocket [Tandem HEAT]

# Mi-28N, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-13B 122mm Rockets
12 X #1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V]
10 x # 1061 S-13B 122mm Rocket [Penetrator] -- 1984

[AMEND AND CORRECT LOADOUT TITLE - 9M127 IS VIKHR MISSILE GRAU DESIGNATION - 9M120 IS ATAKA]
#15679 Ka-52, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M], S-8KO 80mm Rockets
Change to
#15679 Ka-52, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M127 Vikhr-M], S-8KO 80mm Rockets

GRAU designation of 9M120 is ATAKA -V (NATO - AT-9 Spiral II).

The GRAU designation of VIKHR is 9M127 in service dates 2015, link below is to an interview with Kalashnikov Concern CEO who makes reference to the production and resolution of issues with the VIKHR which meant it wasn't manufactured until 2015 after the initial production order in 2013.
https://rostec.ru/en/news/4517933/?sphrase_id=139361
ROSTEC Kalashnikov CEO on Vikhr-1.
The difference between the Vikhr and Vikhr-1M appears to be largely to do with production and licences but some sources credit the 9M127-1 Vikhr-1M with a longer range of 10-12km.

#1058 AT-16 Scallion [9K121 Vikhr] -- 1993, Not 9M120 Ataka-V
For consideration of adding a new weapon 9M127-1 Vikhr-1M. with amended range 6nm

#1241 AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V] - For consideration of please amending 9M120 Ataka range to 6km - 3.2nm. Majority of sources credit Ataka with range of 5.8km to 6km in daylight
List of various sites with Ataka data including that of the manufacturer and design bureau.
https://www.kbm.ru/en/production/ptrk/ (Covers both ground and air launched versions)
http://zid.ru/eng/products/90/detail/212

Thanks for consideration. K

Further reading/links:
https://youtu.be/Iw3CCQ0Irjw And NOTE they are referring to the NEW Vikhr 1M

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... c-and-halo

www.russiandefence.com/new-post2/

https://www.janes.com/article/82485/arm ... helicopter

https://sputniknews.com/russia/20170107 ... -ultimate/

https://tass.com/defense/1032936

www.airrecognition.com/index.php/archiv ... ssile.html

https://ria.ru/20190307/1551629504.html

http://m.aviationweek.com/defense/insid ... ed-mi-28nm

https://www.armyrecognition.com/army-20 ... eiled.html

https://defpost.com/russian-helicopters ... army-2018/


https://youtu.be/w674EGlPMYw ARMY 2019 Mi-28 Mi-35

http://ka52.tass.com/3/ KA-52 Info

https://mobile.twitter.com/rushelico

https://twitter.com/KRET_English/status ... 61536?s=20 Vitebsk

http://zid.ru/eng/products/90/detail/212

http://bastion-karpenko.ru/vihr/

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/vikhr.htm

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/ataka.htm

[KLAB]

As previous post could you also please consider amending the GRAU index description for the following loadouts:

22500 Su-25TM, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M]
15679 Ka-52, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M], S-8KO 80mm Rockets
15670 Ka-50, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M], S-8KO 80mm Rockets

9M120 refers to Ataka system

9M127-1 refers to Vikhr-M

DELETE / REDESIGNATE OR REPURPOSE THE FOLLOWING LOADOUTS FOR SU-25SM VARIANTS:

9883 Su-25SM, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M]
9882 Su-25, Russia: AT-16 Scallion [9M120 Vikhr-M]

There is no reference or evidence to support that the Su-25SM has ever used the Vikhr, data refers to its integration on SU-25T and SU-39.
The only images I can find of Vikhr equipped Su-25’s are for the Su-25T and Su-39 which were prototypes, or export offerings only which did not enter full service.

Thanks for consideration, K

[KLAB]

Request Weapon Range amendment:

#1042 AT-6 Spiral [9M114 Sturm-V] (1976)
DB478
Range currently 5nm.
Actual range 5-6km or 3.2nm. (6km Air launched)

https://translate.google.co.uk/translat ... rev=search
http://www.samolotypolskie.pl/samoloty/ ... 114-Szturm
http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/H ... M114).html
http://btvt.info/3attackdefensemobility/1k133.htm
https://www.kbm.ru/en/production/ptrk/531.html
http://www.translatetheweb.com/?from=&t ... F1k133.htm

This has been requested previously by others but since I am online and on a roll no harm in asking again. [:)]
As the Shturm 9M114-V air launched AT-6 Spiral is the principle guided anti armour and anti surface weapon of the mid era Mi-24's I just think it would improve the accuracy of the sim if it had a realistic range,
Thanks. K

[Gunner98]

Any chance we can add the Yugoslav M-87 Orkan & Orkan II MLR:

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/orkan_cer.htm
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/m87_orkan.htm
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/sites/defa ... s_260a.jpg

They never really reached production, there were about 12x Orkan and perhaps 4x Orkan II developed before Yugoslavia disintegrated, so they could perhaps be considered hypothetical.

Anyway I'll use them in the Med Fury series.

Tx

[stilesw]

Any chance we can add the Yugoslav M-87 Orkan & Orkan II MLR:

Bart,

Logging for future inclusion.

-Wayne

[Tookatee]

The South Korean #3182 TA-50 and #3183 FA-50 Golden Eagle are missing several different loadouts from their database entries in addition to the capability to equip the #182 AIM-9P and the #1401 AIM-9L (all the current loadouts in their entries and the ones described in this post are able to have those AIM-9 variants [with the term SRAAMs being used in place of typing out each missing loadout an additional two times].) All the underwing pylons are capable of holding any of the weapons listed for them in the database and it's maximum takeoff weight more than allows for the following loadouts.

Additionally all entries of the T-50, FA-50, and TA-50 are all missing the fly-by-wire property. This line of aircraft are in fact the first trainers to incorporate a triple redundant fly-by-wire system.

The missing loadouts are:
2x #23 AGM-65G2 + 2x #93 GBU-38, 2x #1814 Mk82, 2x #318 150 USG Drop Tank, 2x #1498 Mk20 Rockeye, or 38x #1929 Hydra 70mm rocket + 1x #318 150 USG Drop Tank + 2x SRAAMs
6x #23 AGM-65G2 + 2x #93 GBU-38, 2x #1814 Mk82, 2x #318 150 USG Drop Tank, 2x #1498 Mk20 Rockeye, or 38x #1929 Hydra 70mm rocket + 1x #318 150 USG Drop Tank + 2x SRAAMs
2x #23 AGM-65G2, 2x #93 GBU-38, 2x #1814 Mk82, 2x #318 150 USG Drop Tank, 2x #1498 Mk20 Rockeye, or 38x #1929 Hydra 70mm rocket + 1x #318 150 USG Drop Tank + 4x SRAAMs
6x SRAAMs + 1x #318 150 USG Drop Tank
6x #1814 Mk82 + 2x #23 AGM-65G2, 2x #93 GBU-38, 2x #318 150 USG Drop Tank, 2x #1498 Mk20 Rockeye, or 38x #1929 Hydra 70mm rocket + 1x #318 150 USG Drop Tank + 2x SRAAMs
4x #1814 Mk82, #93 GBU-38, #23 AGM-65G2, or #1498 Mk20 Rockeye + 1x #318 150 USG Drop Tank + 2x SRAAMs

Image showing several different loadouts for the TA-50


Image showing Maverick capability for the outermost underwing pylons and AIM-9P's equipped


Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAI_T-50_Golden_Eagle , http://www.koreaaero.com/english/produc ... g_t-50.asp , and https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... aft_id=513

[LORDPrometheus]

Very minor thing but the XQ-222 Valkyrie has a listed maximum payload of 260kg yet can carry a GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82] which has a listed mass of 275kg. Again this is super minor just something I noticed while checking out newer stuff