At dawn we slept...in the cab on the way back from Olongapo

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Why am I getting so many bikini (the garment not the island) and gutter cleaning ads? That seems a rather odd demographic. Good news is the ED ads have stopped.
The bikini ads are there to titillate you into buying their gutter guards? Or the HOA has received a complaint about your man-boobs?

Maybe they figure that his ED is fixed so no they have to titillate him to keep that ED supply fix going. The gutter ads are supposed to remind him where his mind is supposed to be.
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*****************June 3, 1943(e)***************
New Gunea: It looks like the transports at Manokwari will get pounded by a SCTF (and carrier bombers)...so I send everyone back to Baik to unload with with the cruisers to cover an a bunch of fighters.

Somehow the USN cruisers react toward Manokwari. Crap.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Manokwari at 85,109, Range 7,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 4 destroyed
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Ise, Shell hits 2
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 4, on fire
CL Natori
CL Yura
DD Hayashio
DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 2
DD Kawakaze
DD Murakumo

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Richmond, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
DD Abbot, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Eaton, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Radford

Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 0% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 7,000 yards
CA Salt Lake City fires at BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards
CA Salt Lake City fires at BB Ise at 7,000 yards
CL Richmond launches Torpedoes at BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards
DD Radford launches Torpedoes at BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards
DD Eaton launches Torpedoes at CL Natori at 7,000 yards
CA Salt Lake City fires at CL Isuzu at 7,000 yards
DD Radford fires at DD Tokitsukaze at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
Massive explosion on CA Salt Lake City
BB Hyuga engages CA Salt Lake City at 4,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages CL Richmond at 4,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Radford at 4,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Eaton at 4,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages CA Salt Lake City at 4,000 yards
DD Radford engages DD Tokitsukaze at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CA Salt Lake City sunk by BB Hyuga at 2,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages CA Louisville at 2,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Eaton at 2,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Eaton at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages CA Louisville at 3,000 yards
BB Ise engages CA Louisville at 3,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Radford at 3,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Eaton at 3,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Abbot at 3,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Isuzu at 3,000 yards
DD Murakumo engages DD Eaton at 3,000 yards
BB Ise engages CL Richmond at 3,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Radford at 3,000 yards
CL Yura engages CA Louisville at 3,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Abbot at 3,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Radford at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CA Louisville sunk by BB Hyuga at 5,000 yards
CL Richmond sunk by BB Ise at 5,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Eaton at 5,000 yards
CL Natori engages DD Abbot at 5,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Radford at 5,000 yards
DD Radford engages DD Hayashio at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Radford engages DD Murakumo at 7,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Radford at 7,000 yards
BB Fuso engages DD Radford at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Radford at 10,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Eaton at 10,000 yards
DD Abbot engages DD Hayashio at 10,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Radford at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Radford at 11,000 yards
BB Ise engages DD Radford at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Abbot at 11,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DD Radford at 11,000 yards
DD Murakumo engages DD Eaton at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Radford at 10,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Eaton at 10,000 yards
DD Abbot sunk by DD Murakumo at 10,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Eaton at 10,000 yards
Lee, Willis "Ching orders Allied TF to disengage
DD Radford engages DD Hayashio at 10,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Eaton at 10,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages DD Radford at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages DD Radford at 9,000 yards
DD Murakumo engages DD Eaton at 9,000 yards
Task forces break off...

what a disaster. The landing troops are spared because they were to Biak already. DO SCTF's react at night. These cruisers STARTED the turn at Biak.
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Yes, the cruisers will react at night. It depends upon your task force settings and the commander.
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Yes, the cruisers will react at night. It depends upon your task force settings and the commander.
Mostly it depends on the D/L of the enemy TF, no?
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Yes, the cruisers will react at night. It depends upon your task force settings and the commander.
Mostly it depends on the D/L of the enemy TF, no?

How aggressive is the TF commander and what is the aggression setting. Is the TF commander a Halsey or a Chicken Little?
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Yes, the cruisers will react at night. It depends upon your task force settings and the commander.
Mostly it depends on the D/L of the enemy TF, no?

How aggressive is the TF commander and what is the aggression setting. Is the TF commander a Halsey or a Chicken Little?
Obviously sometimes ChickenLittle is better.
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RADM Willis Lee must have ordered the task force to disengage from a life boat!
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Mostly it depends on the D/L of the enemy TF, no?

How aggressive is the TF commander and what is the aggression setting. Is the TF commander a Halsey or a Chicken Little?
Obviously sometimes ChickenLittle is better.
My point was that if you have no D/L on the enemy, there is no react. Even a weak D/L might not trigger a react if the TF makeup is not detected. Even Halsey wouldn't take a strong TF six hexes to catch a tiny minesweeper or SC.
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Mostly it depends on the D/L of the enemy TF, no?

How aggressive is the TF commander and what is the aggression setting. Is the TF commander a Halsey or a Chicken Little?
Obviously sometimes ChickenLittle is better.

You got a problem with little chickens? [:@]
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How aggressive is the TF commander and what is the aggression setting. Is the TF commander a Halsey or a Chicken Little?
Obviously sometimes ChickenLittle is better.

You got a problem with little chickens? [:@]

Why do you ask Chickenboy?

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Obviously sometimes ChickenLittle is better.

You got a problem with little chickens? [:@]

Why do you ask Chickenboy?

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I don't get why the common vulgar term for male genitalia is the same as the term for a male chicken. An absolute mystery. You wonder if it is a recurring joke among hens.
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I also still don't understand why a "Remain on station" SCTF at Biak would motor 84 miles in the middle of the night to get their asses kicked.
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That rooster pic looks like something from the Jurassic. They did not die out they just grew more feathers.
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Some LCT's returning from Sorong make a wrong turn but do manage to use up a bunch of 14 in rounds.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Manokwari at 85,109, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Ise, Shell hits 1
BB Hyuga, on fire
CL Isuzu, on fire
CL Natori
CL Yura
DD Hayashio
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Murakumo

Allied Ships
LCT-59, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCT-60, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
LCT-62, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
LCT-63, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
LCT-64, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
SC PC-1082, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
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LCT-60 absorbs more damage than USS SLC
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The Jap BB's proceed to their original mission...bombardment of Manokwari...perhaps there were low on burrets.
Night Naval bombardment of Manokwari at 85,109

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso
CL Yura
CL Natori
DD Murakumo
DD Kawakaze
DD Hayashio

Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Interesting fact. When Hiei was sent in to bombard Henderson Field the Japanese armorers had to decide what type of round to put in the queue. It seems the delivery of the rounds from the magazine to the main guns was a linear sequence (a conveyor system)..so when Hiei first entered the naval gunnery battle she was firing HE with fusing set for shore bombardment.

I wonder, does the AI fire HE when you order a bombardment and enemy ships appear or is it automatically AP?
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I don't know but 14" HE would work better against DDs than 14" AP.
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That rooster pic looks like something from the Jurassic. They did not die out they just grew more feathers.
Correct. The layout of the chicken skeleton corresponds with the raptor dinosaurs. Note how their knees are on the back of the leg so they get a cantilever spring in their jump. Helps with the strut too!
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