Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR)

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR)

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The manpower multiplier for the Soviets changes through the campaign; the 1944 and 1945 values are low.
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ORIGINAL: randallw

The manpower multiplier for the Soviets changes through the campaign; the 1944 and 1945 values are low.

Yeah that kinda sucks though [;)]


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Turn 145

Overall
Once more HQ Zhukov forces the Axis to fall back two hexes, and once more one of the stack under HQ Zhukov is forced to retreat. The Axis make 3 attacks this turn, scoring 2 retreats and 1 rout (division ofc). We launch 27 attacks, but are only 66% successful as we get a staggering 9 held this turn.
Losses are reported at;
Axis : 63.000 troops and 288 AFVs
USSR : 118.000 troops and 626 AFVs
A total of 164.000 report to the manpower pool this turn, ending it at 39.360, although I suspect some of these guys are from my airfields (see below under "units").

Units
8 TAC and 1 TRS is sent to the reserves this turn. Furthermore, as Q-Ball pointed out, I have alot of airfields doing nothing, so I disband 6 of them. What I want to see now is if they respawn as my airfield : airgroup ratio is now off again.
1 mechanized and 1 rifle corps is formed this turn, and we order the creation of 2 rifle divisions and 1 rifle brigade.
Our forces grows by 50.000 troops this turn.

HQ Zhukov
Once more I am overly confident with these guys, and once more a stack is forced to retreat, losing us quite a few AFVs.

Units destroyed
The 703rd Sp Infantry gun company is destroyed this turn.

Partisans
6 sabotague actions are undertaken by the 28 units that are still active after the Axis force 10 units to retreat. We reward our guys with 14 supply drops.



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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR)

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Turn 146

Overall
Alot of fighting all along the line, and the Axis make 5 attacks this turn, scoring 2 held, 2 retreat and 1 rout. We on the other hand make no less than 30 attacks, gaining 5 held and 25 retreats. What seems to be the trend right now, is that more and more Axis troops are relocated to the area oppsite HQ Zhukov to try to halt our advances there. This is not working, but what it does create, is more chances for us to attack all along the line. I need some more turns with decent weather. If I get that, I have a feeling that the entire dam might collapse soon. Losses are very high this turn;
Axis : 97.000 troops and 493 AFVs
USSR : 144.000 troops and 872 AFVs
A total of 162.000 workers report to the manpower pool this turn, ending it at 37.189.

Units
8 TACs are sent to the reserves this turn, and we chose to disband 6 more airfields this turn. We then form 2 rifle corps, and order the creation of 2 rifle divisions, 1 rifle brigade and 3 mechanized brigades. As a bonus, Stalin has decided to allow the Poles to fight alongside our forces, and this turn we recieve 1 Polish HQ, 4 Polish rifle divisions, 1 Polish tank brigade, 1 Polish heavy tank regiment, 1 Polish light SU regiment, 2 Polish army gun artillery brigades, 1 Polish AT artillery brigade, 1 Polish mortar regiment, 4 Polish AA regiments, 1 Polish AA battalion, 1 Polish sapper batalion and 1 Po,lish assault Engineer-sapper brigade.
Our forces manage to grow by 55.000 troops this turn despite the heavy losses. The high AFV loss this turn forced us to take a look at our AFV pools (see below). I am also guessing that our ability to record a net growth this turn is due to the 6 airfields that were disbanded last turn.

Partisans
We are left with 28 units on the map after 10 anti-partisans attacks by the Axis. These guys then performed 8 acts of sabotague and was rewarded by 6 supply drops this turn.




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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR)

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493 afv losses for axis is amazing. can u check whut types he loosing now?

hes entire tank production is like 60-70 panthers 40-50 pz 3/4 and 8 tigers per turn.

your tank pools grow couse i think your divisions replace losses with old t-34s atm , (81 of your 107 tank units still use t-34/42 wich is very good couse your pool is sick )

u make 54 heawy tanks per turn now. make a few more SU for heawy tanks and add to your guard mec corps :)
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Turn 147

Overall
This thime it is the Axis that are grateful for the arrival of mud. As a consequence we are only able to launch 5 attacks this turn, we do however manage a 100% success ratio, as all 5 are retreats. What is annoying, is that now the Axis will have a line of level 3 forts again..Losses are...hmm well low for the Axis and high for me;
Axis : 38.000 troops and 64 AFVs
USSR : 82.000 troops and 92 AFVs
180.000 reporting for the manpower pool is more than we have seen in a long time, nevertheless it ends at a whopping 15 this turn.

Units
Another 10 TACs are sent to the reserves. These guys are really really starting to annoy me. Don't they know there is a war going on?
Since I got a new airfield this turn, I see no point in disbanding any more as they will just reappear. We form 3 rifle corps this turn, then we order the construction of 3 mechanized corps. The remaining 21 points are spent on SUs.
Our forces grew by 103.000 troops this turn, come solid ground we should be well above the 7.000.000 mark again.

Partisans
We have 31 active units at the end of the turn, this is after the Axis force 10 to retreat. This time our partisans actually manage 19 sabotague actions, the supply drops remain low though at 8.



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Turn 148 aka turn of disappointment

Overall
More mud as expected, we did however manage a total of 7 attacks this turn for the result of 6 retreat and 1 rout (Rumanian Inf Div). Losses are nothing special;
Axis : 42.000 soldiers and 69 AFVs
USSR : 80.000 troops and 133 AFVs
A total of 168.000 report to the manpower pool, ending it at 192.

Units
3 TACs are sent to the reserves this turn...
We form 2 rifle corps and 1 mechanized corps this turn, the rest of the points are spent on assigning SUs.
Our forces grows by 77.000 troops this turn, and we are back above the 7.000.000 mark again.

Units destroyed
We destroyed the German 6/42nd SP Flak Company this turn.

OOB
We compare the OOB with the last entry. It is a huge disappointment (see below)!!

Partisans
After 11 attacks by the Axis, we are left with 28 active units this turn. With a mere 3 supply drops being made, I guess I cannot be too disappointed by 7 sabotague missions.



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you might be seeing some of the panzars showing up as reinforcements in those tank strengths.
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There's something important to consider: the T-34/76 is superior in the period when it was first deployed, but the T-34/85 is a modest upgrade, and inferior to the Panther ( built from scratch ).  Even with good experience units the T-34 losses will be significant.
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ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

you might be seeing some of the panzars showing up as reinforcements in those tank strengths.

True, however in the past 5 turns the Axis has lost 1200 AFVs, to see a net loss in his OOB of a mere 3 AFVs hurts...

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ORIGINAL: randallw

There's something important to consider: the T-34/76 is superior in the period when it was first deployed, but the T-34/85 is a modest upgrade, and inferior to the Panther ( built from scratch ).  Even with good experience units the T-34 losses will be significant.

True, but I am actually not that afraid of his Panthers, those I kill easily enough, his Tigers however...


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Turn 149

apologies
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Overall
Still mud. We only make 5 attacks this turn, scoring 4 retreat and 1 held. Losses are light;
Axis : 34.000 troops and 43 AFVs
USSR : 76.000 troops and 116 AFVs

Units
We form one mech corps and order the creation of 2 rifle divisions and 1 rifle brigade. We also spend some points on SUs this turn.
Our forces grew by 82.000 this turn.

Partisans
The Axis make 6 anti-partisan attacks this turn, leaving us with 32 active units. 15 sabotague missions are completed this turn, and 7 supply drops are made.
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Turn 150

Overall
Still mud. We make 7 attacks and score 2 held and 5 retreats this turn. Apart from that nothing really happens. Losses are reported as;
Axis : 37.000 troops and 72 AFVs
USSR : 78.000 troops and 123 AFVs
With a mere 155.000 reporting to the manpower pool this turn, it ends at 1.120.
Just to have something to look at, we take a look at dead generals this turn. There are a few guys there that will be missed (try to spot them [:'(])

Units
1 TAC is sent to the reserves.
We order the construction of 4 rifle divisions, 2 rifle brigades and 3 mechanized brigades this turn.
Our forces record a growth of 80.000 troops this turn.

Partisans
30 units are left after the Axis launch 12 anti-partisan attacks this turn. Our guys manage 11 acts of sabotague and are rewarded with 4 supply drops.




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Heh, most of the execution victims are no significant loss.
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Heh, most of the execution victims are no significant loss.

Hehe that is true. The loss of Konev to Axis fire though is something I could have done without...


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Turn 151

Apologies
Forgot to take a scrrenshot, although I have no idea what that should have been anyway.

Overall
Mud mud mud. Had I shown the battle report you might have thought I had tried something stupid, as it shows 16 held and 6 retreats this turn. However, all held results are from artillery duels which were undertaken just to increase Axis losses.
In the end losses are still light however;
Axis : 38.000 troops and 66 AFVs
USSR : 82.000 troops and 114 AFVs.
The manpower pool only recieved 153.000 workers this turn, ending at 6.

Units
2 TACs were sent away for some rest this turn, and we formed 2 rifle corps before ordering the creation of 3 mortar brigades.
Our total strength grew by 72.000 troops this turn.

Partisans
The Axis chased away 12 of our untis this turn, leaving us with 26 on the map. These guys then managed 12 sabotague actions and were rewarded with 9 supply drops.
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Turn 152

Overall
Finally clear wether. But as feared, the Axis are now well dug in, and I will now consider it a victory for the Red Army if we reach the Polish border. We launch no less than 32 attacks this turn, sadly we get 15 held and 17 retreats. As a result losses are very high for us this turn;
Axis : 65.000 troops and 206 AFVs
USSR : 140.000 troops and 629 AFVs
Our manpower continue to drop, this turn we recieve 151.000 workers, ending the pool at 17.866.

Units
2 TACs and 1 RC are sent to the reserves this turn.
We form 2 rifle corps and 1 mechanized corps this turn, but we also order the construction of 2 rifle divisions, 1 rifle brigade and 3 mechanized brigades.
Our forces managed to grow by 16.000 troops this turn despite severe losses.

Partisans
We are left with 25 active units after the Axis chase away 9. Our guys performed 9 sabotague missions this turn and was sent 8 supply drops to let them keep up their work.



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Now this is where some testers would be recommending you build artillery divisions.
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You need artillery divisions. I hardly see any. (Nobody builds them. It's not just you.)

30+ of the suckers. Concentrate them on portions of the fort line. 3 or more per attack. I've been known to use as many as 6 artillery divisions on a single attack against a well dug in enemy. Would be willing to use even more than that if possible.

Truthfully, I think you're just going to run out of time here. The Axis is in pretty good shape and very deep in the Soviet Union. 1943 was a wasted year by and large. You only just started turning it around at the end. You're probably 12 months behind schedule here if not more.

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I have noticed that artillery really makes a differance, attacking at a little less than 1:1 CV but with 2 rocket brigades, rocket div and an artillery division I am having success moving german piles.

I think that if you bring enough guns to the party, it won't matter how many sandbags they are hiding behind.
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