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[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Aegis Ashore is quite an interesting system. Something like this is what I'd expect China to install on the artificial islands sooner or later, as military pressure mounts against them.

But an island and sea settlement has no natural obstacle to protect with. Worse, deploying an anti-missile radar and battery require big and steady work of ammunition and electric supplies at sea. Even with fortification and anti-ship defenses, the hostile submarine will make short work of them easier with much closer range, than playing course-changing missiles technique like a scenario against S-400 in Damascus.

[xavierv]

Just wow!
(On the closeup shot, she already shows some rust spots however... not that there's anything wrong with it, even Zumwalt will get rust in a couple month... but freshly painted vessels just look nicer IMO)

Pictures: First Operational Deployment for French Navy's Newest Frigate Aquitaine (FREMM)

The latest and most modern addition to the French Navy (Marine Nationale) fleet, the Aquitaine Frigate (head of the class and first FREMM frigate built by DCNS), set sailed yesterday to join the Charles de Gaulle Carrier Strike Group (CSG) in the Persian Gulf. This first operational deployment happens just two weeks after the French Navy officially declared the vessel to be in "Active Duty".

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3374

[Hongjian]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Aegis Ashore is quite an interesting system. Something like this is what I'd expect China to install on the artificial islands sooner or later, as military pressure mounts against them.

But an island and sea settlement has no natural obstacle to protect with. Worse, deploying an anti-missile radar and battery require big and steady work of ammunition and electric supplies at sea. Even with fortification and anti-ship defenses, the hostile submarine will make short work of them easier with much closer range, than playing course-changing missiles technique like a scenario against S-400 in Damascus.

For air-defense, natural obstacles serve the attacker more than the defender. As you can see from the S-400 example posted in the other thread, the mountain-ridge was used as concealment for waypoint capable cruise missiles to get close the target without being detected. Fortified islands are arguably the best bases for these systems, as they basically have 360° unobstructed field of view. And with radar-blimps and active radar missiles, they will even have OTH targeting capability.

Munitions wise, I'd say a fortified island base is better than a surface combattants, as there are no weight restrictions and hence you can store an entire arsenal of spare missiles in fortified bunkers and have the heavy duty machines/cranes to reload the VLS launchers. Energy would be the same. What prevents one to install one or two gas-turbines on those islands? Sure, fuel is an issue, but so would it be for surface combattants. The PLAN has specifically introduced the Type 904-class of General Stores supply ship to resupply the island garissons. Energy requirements would be less than that of a AAW destroyer, as the energy would only be needed to powering the radars and combat systems, not for propulsion as well. So, when a 128 VLS-celled 12.000 tons Type 055 needs four QC-280 gas turbines with 28MW each, an artificial island with twice the number of the VLS cells and the same Type 346A radars would only need one or two QC-280 - as the island does not need any energy for sailing at 30+ knots, but only for powering the radars!

China is also planning to use wave-farms for powering the artificial island's radar stations and other installations:

http://www.scmp.com/tech/science-resear ... ower-radar

So, in the end it plays no role of whether China would put something like Aegis ashore or a traditional SAM-unit or a Fighter Regiment on these islands. The requirements in logistics and the dangers of enemy attacks are all the same.

[Glenn Beasley]

Egypt Recieves Type 209/1400 Sub from Germany. http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... ine-f.aspx

[xavierv]

Fincantieri Launched the Sixh FREMM Frigate “Luigi Rizzo” for the Italian Navy

“Luigi Rizzo” is the sixth FREMM unit which Fincantieri builds and delivers to the Italian Navy. It is the second FREMM in GP "General Purpose" configuration. Picture: Fincantieri

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3380

[Glenn Beasley]

Australia chooses the Pilatus PC-21 A/C. http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories ... _PC-21.htm

[Triode]

ORIGINAL: Triode

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... tland.html

amusing ,
especially if know that they hunt for good old project 671RTMK

ORIGINAL: mviniegra85

There're only 2 671RTM boats - Obininsk and Daniil Moskovskiy - in service right now with Russia's Northern Fleet.

Are you sure it's a Victor III?, not Pantera or Nizhny Novgorod?

ORIGINAL: Triode

Pantera literally chained to Northern fleet SSBN , so long walk is not for her until more subs arrive from repair and modernization
Nizhny Novgorod conduct torpedo exercise 29.09 in Barents Sea so it is unlikely

only good option is 671RTMK , especially "Obninsk"

"Obninsk" returned from sea
http://vk.com/club_podvodnik?w=wall-546461_10479 in russian

it is good to be right [:)]

[xavierv]

Heads to scenario designers... And please God make it happen [&o]

French Navy Rafale M Fighters May Conduct Combat Missions From a US Navy CVN in 2017

French Navy (Marine Nationale) Rafale M carrier-based multirole fighters may conduct combat missions against the Islamic State (IS) in Iraq and Syria from a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier as soon as January 2017. The information comes from French TV channel TF1. According to TF1 this subject was discussed between US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter and French Navy Rear Adm. Rene-Jean Crignola, Commander Task Force (CTF) 50.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3384

[Hongjian]

A few days ago, there was a report that a J-16 Strike-Flanker Electronic Attack variant has completed its maiden flight, giving China her own equivalent to the EA-18G Growler on a Flanker-platform. And yes, the engines are domestic WS-10s, giving further credibility in the maturity of the Chinese engine.

Now, the first photos have been leaked, showing a J-16 in yellow primer with significant modifications; such as AN/ALQ-218 Tactical Jamming System Receiver-styled built-in wingtip-pods just like on the EA-18G, as well as different EW dielectric panels and no gun (again, like the EA-18G)! It's designation has been rumored to be JD-16 (J = "Jian/Fighter", D = "Dian/Electronic Attack"), in lieu with the HD-5, which was the EW variant of the H-5 Beagle bomber.




^The wing-tip jamming receiver compared with the AN/ALQ-218 TJSR on the Growler



^Differences between the JD-16 and the standard J-16. The Shorter radome also indicates that it might be equipped with the same AESA like the new J-11D.



Another evidence that Chinese internet rumors prove to be 80% accurate.

In my opinion, the JD-16 might be the single most important asset outside J-20 project for the PLAAF to have, as stand-in/escort offensive jamming was always a weakness for them. Having a EA-18G equivalent fighter for the ground-based PLAAF also opens the possibility for the carier-based J-15s of the PLANAF to have a similiar variant in the future.
Anyway, in my CMANO scenarios, a Chinese Growler equivalent was always something I missed when simulating air-strikes against heavily defended ground and naval targets...

[Hongjian]

Now, the latest rumor shortly following the JD-16 reveal has it, that the J-15 and J-15S are also expecting a dedicated EW variant too. These CGs have been reposted as well, showing a J-15 with Jamming pods (with no ELINT on wingtips?):




Anyway, the source says that maiden flight of this variant will follow shortly. As one can see in the 2nd CG, the J-15 EW will also have no IRST and likely no gun, making it a EA-18G-like EW plane as well.

[NakedWeasel]

David's Sling Weapon System • Joint US-Israel Test (DST-4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0rWN6o4gNM&index=4&list=PLA3FBEFD85C0CA310

[Hongjian]

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... lroad-car/

China Tests New ICBM from Railroad Car
Rail-mobile launcher used in DF-41 ejection test

Besides the all-terrain TEL, a train-based variant of the DF-41 was tested.


So, they call it a "land nuclear submarine" [:)]

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... lroad-car/

China Tests New ICBM from Railroad Car
Rail-mobile launcher used in DF-41 ejection test

Besides the all-terrain TEL, a train-based variant of the DF-41 was tested.


So, they call it a "land nuclear submarine" [:)]

Still a vague weapon platform, train or TEL. And besides, none had even see the distinct view of missile itself. That is why DB3000 doesn't have it.

[Dysta]

This is the definition of "MISS", according to CMANO's realism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaKJhIZUzeg

A driver had a narrow escape and showed impressive calmness under pressure, when he dodged an incoming TOW missile. The person behind the wheel, waited patiently for the rocket to approach, before moving the vehicle out of the way… and to safety - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/703w

[Triode]

project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov" fire 91RT ASW missile/torpedo from UKSK on trials

[Hongjian]

Jane's picked it up.

http://www.janes.com/article/56855/poss ... rst-flight

Possible J-16 EW variant makes its first flight

[Triode]

also not exactly defense news , but ...

"The intention to improve relations with the movement "Taliban" has publicly stated by the special representative of the Russian President and the Director of department in Russian Foreign Ministry Zamir Kabulov. According to him, the interests of Russia and the "Taliban" against "Islamic state" are the same. So somehow stimulate this interest is not particularly necessary. According Kabulov talks with the Taliban on this matter through diplomatic channels, are already underway. The diplomat did not rule out the supply of weapons to the Taliban, but on a commercial basis, and very carefully. However, he ruled out any possibility of a military operation in Afghanistan, similar to Syria."

"The movement" Taliban "led by Mullah Mansoor, who is still alive, is opposed to the" Islamic state "and has no plans to draw its influence beyond Central Asia. Therefore, they suit us. We should work together. It's about time ! This is the principle: the enemies of our enemies - our friends, "- said the director of the Center for the study of FAN in the Middle East and Central Asia Semen Bagdasarov."

http://riafan.ru/492017-neozhidannoe-pa ... drug-talib in russian

We live in interesting time, isn't it?

[Dysta]

No confirmation of this interesting deal yet, but Ukraine seems they could use their engine production for China's profit. Looks like L-15 (which is assumed as The copy of Yak-130, but there are many fundamental differences, which I don't waste my breathe to explain here) will make good use for Ukraine Air Force if the agreement is is real:

http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/s ... ntkTxV94Rk

[NakedWeasel]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

No confirmation of this interesting deal yet, but Ukraine seems they could use their engine production for China's profit. Looks like L-15 (which is assumed as The copy of Yak-130, but there are many fundamental differences, which I don't waste my breathe to explain here) will make good use for Ukraine Air Force if the agreement is is real:

http://www.jamestown.org/programs/edm/s ... ntkTxV94Rk

Man, I can see that pissing off Russia (and ironically enough, the USA as well perhaps) big time.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: NakedWeasel

Man, I can see that pissing off Russia (and ironically enough, the USA as well perhaps) big time.

The real question is, are they have advance fighter jets that need L-15 to train their pilots?

Don't even start the answer with 'they use it as cheaper attackers/fighters against rebels/pro-Russian militants'. L-15 is far too small to be combat-effective war birds, and their Su-27 fleets have no further supply from the tension against Russia. Unless Ukraine will soon get some new fighters, the need for trainers will be pointless.

That's why I am still waiting for its official announcement or relative picture of the joint productions.