Admirals Edition Naval Thread

[mlees]

Referencing Matrix WiTP-AE screen shot #4 (ship transfer to TF42), what does the "set verbose" button do?

[mlees]

Referencing screen shot #3 (damaged Tennessee in Pearl Harbor), there is a "stand down to repair" toggle switch.
 
Can I assume that ship's that have stood down are less likely to sortie from the harbor in the event of an air attack?
 
Does a ship that has been "stood down" suffer a malus to its combat potential (such as reduced number of manned AA guns)?
 
Will ships that have NOT been stood down receive repairs at all?

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: mlees

Referencing Matrix WiTP-AE screen shot #4 (ship transfer to TF42), what does the "set verbose" button do?

Turns down the description detail on the ship that you mouse over.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: mlees

Referencing screen shot #3 (damaged Tennessee in Pearl Harbor), there is a "stand down to repair" toggle switch.

Can I assume that ship's that have stood down are less likely to sortie from the harbor in the event of an air attack?

Does a ship that has been "stood down" suffer a malus to its combat potential (such as reduced number of manned AA guns)?

Will ships that have NOT been stood down receive repairs at all?

You have to stand ships down to take full advantage of all port repair facilities, but repairs can still happen without standing down (just not as fast). If they're stood down, they won't go anywhere. I'm not sure what a "malus" is, but the combat potential is (IIRC) the same as for a disbanded ship.

[JWE]

Cid,

Do you happen to recall the size of the shore party in your era? I know during Korea and beyond, it was 2 crews, each about 10-12 ratings and a PO, with a CPO-1 as shore Boss.

I think it was very similar during War-2 but not really sure.

Maybe you could shoot me a pm, since this may be getting OT.

[mlees]

"Malus" = negative modifier.

I figured that if a ship was in Dry Dock, it would be at a reduced manning level, it's ammo off loaded, and so on. Reducing it's effectivness or number of AA guns available in the event of an air attack.

[JWE]

Or maybe someone else with knowledge in this area.

Herwin .. your parts seem to be screwed on correctly .. any help ??

We know this much:

1) early war and at Guad’, the standard was half an ‘in port’ deck watch, i.e., 10 ratings and a PO (half from port, half from stbd, rotated through the watches).

2) after Guad’, things changed on account of the observed FUBARs, but nothing is on the scheds.

3) in Korea, we set the scheds as 2 full crews (12 each and a PO, with a CPO as Shore Boss).

What did we do between 01/43 and 01/46 ? is my question.

Since this is OT, please respond by pm.

[Marc]

I always wondered why the 5.5" gun from the Japanese CLs/BBs had so little penetration value in WitP. This gun can't even scratch the lightest armor in the game.

If I'm not wrong no one ever touched gun penetration values from day 1 of WitP (at least with CHS).
In search for some data I stumbled over this Internetsite with values for many Naval Guns of WWII. WWII NAVAL GUN PENETRATION TABLES

Perhaps this data can be used for the Admirals Edition if the team thinks the values are correct.

Anyway thank you for your effort.

Marc

[Terminus]

Well, the 14cm gun didn't have much of an AP projectile to speak of... That's why its penetration is so poor. I would guess they took their data from navweaps.com...

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: mlees

Referencing Matrix WiTP-AE screen shot #4 (ship transfer to TF42), what does the "set verbose" button do?

Got a little time, so let's talk about this.

When selecting ships for a Task Force, it is good to know the basic military capabilities of each ship. We have added a large mouseover on each ship's name that shows guns, torpedoes, ASW, AA.

Sometimes very handy, especially for new players. But sometimes quite irritating, especially once one get's used to the ships.

So we added an option to enable or disable the large mouseover. For some reason (long since forgotten) it was originally called "Set Brief" and "Set Verbose". That was not very explanatory, and the text has been changed to "Mouseover On" and "Mouseover Off". There is a mouseover on the mouseover switch that gives an explanation.

We have also expanded the data shown for the "right click" more data option on this screen. You'll like it!

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

When selecting ships for a Task Force, it is good to know the basic military capabilities of each ship. We have added a large mouseover on each ship's name that shows guns, torpedoes, ASW, AA.

Excellent! Thanks! [:D]

[mlees]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Got a little time, so let's talk about this. <snip>

Ok, thanks!

[ctangus]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

When selecting ships for a Task Force, it is good to know the basic military capabilities of each ship. We have added a large mouseover on each ship's name that shows guns, torpedoes, ASW, AA.

Excellent! Thanks! [:D]

I agree - great stuff!

A somewhat similiar question: are there any changes to how ship reinforcement details are displayed? It'd at least be useful to know the class of an arriving ship.

[John 3rd]

Sounds like a practical and useful change for viewing the ships!
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I agree about a little more detail on the reinforcement screen would help.
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Personal note:&nbsp; you guys appear to be on a great path with the Expansion Set.&nbsp; Paul Layne and I are at Dec 1944 with our longterm campaign and are setting the date for concluding it by the time AE comes out!&nbsp; We want to be able to tell people that we actually played EVERY day of a stock campaign and then start a whole new one with this...
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[Brady]

What about the smaller elements aboard CV's that WiTP could not represent, the recon and scout/patrole units, like the Early Judy's deployed in 2 or 3's on Japanese CV's and the SOC:



Has, or could small CV capable units be added to alow these planes a place in game?

[siRkid]

Are ship repairs still random or does the "Stand Down for Repairs" guarantee some repairs will be made each turn? In other words does the "Stand Down for Repairs" give you about the same chances of repair as the old system but allows you to have ships in port that are not using repair points?

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Kid

Are ship repairs still random or does the "Stand Down for Repairs" guarantee some repairs will be made each turn? In other words does the "Stand Down for Repairs" give you about the same chances of repair as the old system but allows you to have ships in port that are not using repair points?

Use of random in ship repair has been greatly reduced (but still exists). This is true for ALL ship repair options.

There is, however, a chance of a major accident while under repair.

[NormS3]

Any chance you want to elaborate on that? A horrific image of exploding fleet carriers, that have just made port with some damage after a major clash with the other side, has ruined my meal and beer.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Norm3

Any chance you want to elaborate on that? A horrific image of exploding fleet carriers, that have just made port with some damage after a major clash with the other side, has ruined my meal and beer.

OK, but it's too early in the day for beer.

Repair has been completely reworked. It now consists of three distinct modes:

1. Damage Control. This is the only type of repair at sea and is used in port until a ship becomes stable (fires out, not about ready to sink).
Damage Control is primarily oriented to, well, damage control. It can accomplish repairs, especially with a well experienced crew. But best repair modes are:

2. Normal Repairs. Ship must be in port, fires out. Note that the ship is available for service, which limits the speed and extent of repairs. Repairs can be made by the ship's crew, port facilities (NOT including shipyards) and available repair ships (providing they have not been assigned to other duties).

3. Offline Repairs. Ship is stood down and is not available for operations. There are three sub-categories, based on resources assigned: Pier Side (good), Repair Ship (better), and Shipyard (best). Individual ships may be assigned high priority. This is the best way to repair any significant amount of damage - any other mode would take forever for a badly shot up ship.

Repair points are calculated based on type and extent of damage, repair mode, and assigned resources.

A repair time estimater is available and will be "close" as use of random has been significantly reduced. Random during routine repair has been (mostly) replaced with a random chance of an "event" during repair. These can increase damage to the ship and represents fires, cranes dropping things, ships falling off blocks in drydock (for two points, name that ship), other accidents, etc. The affect of these events is also random, from a few additional damage points to "Run for your lives, she's going to blow!". Complete loss of a ship is possible but would be very (very, very) rare. An extension of repair time is the usual result.

Some answers:
No, formulas or detailed descriptions will not be posted.
Yes, players will receive notification when a major event occurs.
Yes, size of ship and available resources are important.
Yes, capacity limits are used (ops for ships, something similar for repair facilties)
Yes, I did accidentally type "shot up s**t" when trying to type "shot up ship".

[NormS3]

Cassin was blown off during Pearl Harbor attack, wasn't she? Will spend a bit looking up possible others.

Judging form your last line I might not have been only one drinking. I do have an excuse. Christmas/birthday party at work.

How about just a list of what the random mishaps maybe. I am kinda jinxed and have a wonderful ability to have that lucky roll. This way I could keep a running tab on Norm's Shipyard Mishaps.[:D]

It would be a nice Christmas/Birthday gift.