The Power of Inexperience / GreyJoy(A)-Rader(J)

[GreyJoy]

last turn air slaughter...

[GreyJoy]

high distruption levels...1 tank Bn vaporized...but the overall situation isn't that bad imho

[witpqs]

Fatigue and disruption are at pretty epic levels there. Some rest and a stout 2nd wave are called for.

[GreyJoy]

But look at the experience levels...those guys are truly veterans...and as soon as they recover they'll give some good hell to the japs!

[JohnDillworth]

Surprised the disruption level of the engineers is so low compared to the others

[GreyJoy]

yes...watching the replay it seemed that were the eng those who suffered the most...[&:]
 
Ok...we'll try another air attack against Hachinoe tomorrow. Sweeps + Escort (no LRCAP after the debacles of yesterday). Ching Lee will bomb again with his BBs, while the rest of the fleet will remain under a strong CAP at Hakodate, loading the second wave. With the next turn we should have everything loaded and ready to sail...gotta run before he sends in more troops...already 165 units...4500 guns...[X(]... but the japs aren't invincible! So let's don't be sissies and let's face our fate with the pride of those who know what honour is[&o]
 
A' la guerre!

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: obvert

Looking pretty good without the bombing. With it next time, and with some time softening them up, it might be even better. Your tanks took the brunt of this one it looks like. Are they doing okay? Or are there a lot of Mech support destroyed as well?

A part from a tank BN which has been completely destroyed, the ret pf my tank units look good...think all those vehickes are from mot support squads...

Tomorrow we'll also bombard with our arty units which are in a perfect shape...let's see if the 155mm is better than those crappy japanese guns [:D]

[CaptBeefheart]

Well, with any luck he'll interpret that massive air attack on Ominato as where your second wave is going. [;)]

Anyway, this whole invasion looks sustainable. Tokyo by Christmas!

Good luck, mi amigo!

EDIT: Any chance of making good use of your paras?

Cheers,
CC

[GreyJoy]

Another turn and another evidence that there's a problem with ground attack...my bombers, no matter what i do, keep on targetting Ominato instead of Hachinoe.... this may break our hopes...[:o]

[JeffroK]

Might break the bloody game!!

[GreyJoy]

Yes...i've posted in the tech forum....let's hope it's just me who's missing something...but i trple checked....it's been turns now since i'm not able to bomb hachinoe....[:'(]

[obvert]

That's no good. Maybe Rader put MichaelM under a spell that made him alter the latest patch so that 4Es can no longer bomb ground troops in a clear hex! [:D]

I hope it gets worked out soon!

[GreyJoy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 10, 11 44

A couple of encounters near Sendai between my DDs and his damned "E" classes...

My helldivers and Avengers are suffering tremendously when on naval search because of his LRCAP over Ominato and Hachinoe.... 30 more down today [:(]

We bombed ground troops at Ominato [:@]...and our navy pounded again Hachinoe

Our artillery did a decent job at Hachinoe...but this is the last time i do anything like that...lost 40 155mm guns today [X(]



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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iwaki at 117,59, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E No.21, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
E No.29, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
E No.31, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Kidd
DD Kimberly
DD Longshaw
DD Luce, Shell hits 1

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Submarine attack near Iwaki at 117,60

Japanese Ships
E No.33, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Tactician



E No.33 is sighted by SS Tactician
SS Tactician launches 2 torpedoes


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Night Naval bombardment of Hachinohe at 118,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Richelieu
BB Massachusetts
BB North Carolina
CA London
CA Boston

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)


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Night Naval bombardment of Hachinohe at 118,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Alabama
BB Indiana
BB South Dakota
CA San Francisco
CA Astoria
CA Houston

Japanese ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 31 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 22 (11 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (13 destroyed, 4 disabled)



Manpower hits 1
Fires 1870
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Morning Air attack on 7th Division, at 119,54 (Ominato)
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 21
Seafire IIC x 15
Liberator II x 12
Liberator B.VI x 29
Mosquito FB.VI x 11
Wellington Ic x 22
Wellington B.X x 12
Spitfire VIII x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 10
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
B-24J Liberator x 69
B-25D1 Mitchell x 38
B-25H Mitchell x 46
B-29-1 Superfort x 89
P-39N1 Airacobra x 4
P-40N5 Warhawk x 42
P-40N26 Warhawk x 6
FM-2 Wildcat x 81
F4U-1A Corsair x 99
F6F-3 Hellcat x 90
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 24
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 6
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 33
PV-1 Ventura x 26


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 8 damaged
Wellington Ic: 3 damaged
Wellington B.X: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 27 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 14 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 10 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 17 damaged
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 3 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 4 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
214 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


CAP engaged:
343 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
343 Ku S-2 with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
S-311 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

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Ground combat at Hachinohe (118,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7441 troops, 571 guns, 398 vehicles, Assault Value = 4722

Defending force 258200 troops, 4620 guns, 4152 vehicles, Assault Value = 7372 as u can see he's bringing in more troops...
Japanese ground losses:

318 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Vehicles lost 16 (5 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 91 (65 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Vehicles lost 49 (5 destroyed, 44 disabled)


Assaulting units:
37th Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
104th Combat Engineer Regiment
6th Australian Division
815th Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
XIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
1st USMC Tank Battalion
Provisionl Tank Brigade
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
2nd Marine Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
209th Combat Engineer Battalion
Lushai Brigade
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
819th Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
81st Infantry Division
8th Indian Division
10th Indian Division
6th Infantry Division
9th Australian Division
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
3rd Eng Amph Bde
226th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Eng Amph Bde
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
I Corps Artillery
XI US Corps
2/9th Field Regiment
B Det USN Port Svc
Sixth US Army
17th Marine Defense Battalion
3rd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
82nd Mortar Battalion
251st Coast AA Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
118th RAF Base Force
234th USN Base Force
88th Medium Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
191st USAAF Base Force
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
236th USN Base Force
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
610th Coast AA Regiment
33rd Medium Regiment
109th Tank Attack Regiment
C Det USN Port Svc

Defending units:
72nd Division
4th Guards Division
Guards Tank Division
33rd Division
Combined 8th SNLF
53rd Division
25th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
36th Division
1st Mobile Engineer Regiment
116th Division
32nd Division
39th Division
11th Ind.Mixed Regiment
3rd Mobile Infantry Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
1st Mobile Infantry Regiment
86th Division
54th Division
11th Tank Regiment
82nd Infantry Brigade
2nd Guards Division
52nd Division
93rd Division
48th Recon Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
Kure 7th SNLF
8th Tank Regiment
5th Depot Division
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
72nd Field AA Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
63rd Field AA Battalion
77th Field AA Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
7th Base Force
79th Field AA Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
31st Air Defense AA Regiment
12th Base Force
21st Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
31st Special Base Force
20th RF Gun Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
52nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
37th Ind. Engineer Regiment
13th Base Force
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Rocket Gun Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind. AA Battalion
Northeast Area Fleet
22nd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Medium Mortar Battalion
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
Yokosuka Repl.Art Regiment
2nd Base Force
4th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Mobile AA Battalion
71st Field AA Battalion
27th Army
16th AA Regiment
5th RF Gun Battalion
1st Rocket Gun Battalion
31st Fld AA Gun Co
54th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
61st Field AA Battalion
21st Field AF Construction Battalion
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
1st Mobile AA Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
67th Construction Battalion
21st Fld AA Gun Co
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
32nd Field AA Battalion
Wake Coastal Gun Battalion
71st Mountain Gun Regiment
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
24th Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
11th RF Gun Battalion
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
134th AA Regiment
13th Field AF Construction Battalion
66th Field AA Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
14th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
104th AA Regiment
49th Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Machine Cannon AA Battalion
85th Field AA Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
41st Ind. Engineer Regiment
8th RF Gun Battalion
78th Field AA Battalion
47th Field AA Battalion
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
41st Field AA Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
22nd Field AF Construction Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Mortar Battalion
6th RF Gun Battalion
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
22nd Fld AA Gun Co
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th AA Regiment
53rd Field AA Battalion
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
19th RF Gun Battalion
26th Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
52nd Field AA Battalion
38th Ind. Engineer Regiment
48th Field Artillery Regiment
12th Naval Construction Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
107th Field Artillery Regiment
100th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
65th Field AA Battalion
28th Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Naval Construction Battalion
62nd Field AA Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th RF Gun Battalion
171st AA Regiment
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
122nd AA Regiment
20th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
151st AA Regiment
13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
35th Field AA Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
26th AA Regiment
19th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
89th Field AA Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
70th Field AA Battalion
3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion
44th IMB Artillery Battalion
14th Base Force
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
29th Field AF Construction Battalion
12th RF Gun Battalion
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
27th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
18th RF Gun Battalion
1st Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Base Force

[jeffs]

How much did your disruption and fatigue come down?

[GreyJoy]

Distruption levels and fatigue ones have dropped of 20/25 points...i think in 4/6 days we should be back to a normal value...but thta's really the last of my problems...without the 2E and the 4Es there's no hope of breaking through...

[jeffs]

I have had the same issue...Ground attacks often just seem to go where the IJA has the most flak, regardless of one`s specific orders...

[GreyJoy]

Michealm is taking a look....but he told me that there was a bug that "Without looking at the save, there was a bug that forced LBAs bombing hexes with own troops present to cancel the ground attack and go 'commander choice'.
That was beta 1108d."......
 
...it's exactly what's happening here....
 
Michealm is an hero...but i need to halt the game again...cannot play without the air2ground support [:@]

[obvert]

In my game I was bombing at Sian with plenty of my troops there and had no problems. Must be one of the later betas?

I think we're on 1108q8a

[GreyJoy]

Confirmed by Michealm (who is an hero!): it's a bug "The code doesn't think it needs to get a list of things in the current hex as it already has the current list in memory. But the list is of Allied units, not Japanese. Thus why it thinks it should not be bombing the hex."
 
He's fixing it [8D]

[obvert]

Will you back up again to before the latest few turns? Could help you out this time and seems only fair since you're wasted assets bombing a non-strategic target in Ominato.