Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock

[Lowpe]

Lots of planes spent...plus Gifu hit pretty hard...for one hit. We are on a roll now!

Wouldn't bother me if I could figure out how and why the Helens got thru. Or had any bit of enlightenment on how to attack these carriers.

I have probably lost 4000 planes trying to penetrate the allied Carrier cap this game. [X(]

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I would say get your economy under control and then pick your MLRs. The DEI is still a long ways away from his reinforcement centers, while closer to yours, and is probably still be worth taking Java, if you can.

Lok, that is your very first bit of helpful advice in this AAR.[:)]

You might have told me to increase my vehicles more; I think I upgraded vehicles a total of three times in the game.

Hrm, clearly I should have sprinkled in a lot more unhelpful stuff.

You did tell me to not put so much into the rockets.[:(] Michael told me all my late plane research would be for naught.[:(]

Everybody thought I could do better with my carriers than I did.[:(]

Nobody thought it was a big invasion of Hokkaido.[:(]

Lets face facts, I am pretty darn poor at most aspects of this game.[8|]

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: MrKane

Nick are the best IJA fighter until allied player gets P-40K. My 90 Nicks scored ~300 allied planes for just 34 Nicks during my 2nd game now I am playing. Most of kills comes form sweeps allied bases. Later it become terror for the sky for Chinese troopers troops. It play the same role for IJA like P-40K for USAAF, it fill very well gap between 1st generation fighters and 2nd generation.

I got Nicks late, and with relatively poor pilots. I tried to use them in a anti Lightning role and they died -- due to my poor understanding of how to counter sweeps. I did do one or two sweeps with them, and then I was off to using them in China in a ground attack role and once in Burma in a low altitude anti-shipping role.

[Lowpe]

Well, if the Allies coordinate their air strikes with planes from Hokkaido and the Carriers -- and they focus on hitting my engines...it is pretty grim.[:(]

I will try another attack on the carriers this day, but I think I will try to model it on the Helen strike. Multiple squadrons on escort, and fewer attack squadrons.

He will probably strike at Osaka or Tokyo or Nagoya this day. Have to see where the big engine factories are.

[leehunt27@bloomberg.net]

Frustrating on the attacks. Doesn't seem worth it to me to attack the Death Star without 200 fighters on Escort from the same base? If not more?

[Lowpe]

My attack on Bihoro did well, even with the reduced bomb load for being sneaky.

Unfortunately the 60-80 planes (bombers and aux) that had been there for the last 5 days are all gone. Only two planes there.

Can't do anything right.[&:]

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: leehunt27@bloomberg.net

Frustrating on the attacks. Doesn't seem worth it to me to attack the Death Star without 200 fighters on Escort from the same base? If not more?

Yep, I guess that is the road I will take.

I have tried it in the past, with Frances, and after a very short engagement with the escorts the Allied CAP was into the Frances' shooting them all down. But I think at least that method has had some success at getting the bombers thru (against the BB at Hokkaido it has worked, but no hits).

[leehunt27@bloomberg.net]

This kind of begs the tactical/strategic question: Do you fight mass with mass? The entire Japanese airforce versus the CV Death Star TF? Do you launch attacks from every base in Japan to whittle down his CAP and hope the 5th wave gets through? Or try to attack the rest of his underprotected naval forces elsewhere?

How many planes are you willing to lose trying to attrition the Death Star fighter CAP, or does he replenish the lost Hellcats quickly?

Lots of questions sorry but only you can decide.

My bet is ignore the Death Star and try to make the rest of his fleet feel abandoned terrified Ignoring the Death Star may also mean constant shuttling of air squadrons to "safe" bases.

[njp72]

Lol, the challenges of playing Japan in 44/45.

My 2 cents:

1. You took over a impossible position and made it into an enjoyable, challenging game.

2. It is only a game.

3. If all else fails refer back to point 2


Seriously, once I made a conscious decision in a previous game not to try to target Allied fleet CVs (cap is murderous and too hard to hit) but instead try to target other elements of the fleet you can inflict decent damage.

CVEs and merchant shipping are particularly vulnerable. With the CVs try to attrite the naval aircraft not the shipping.

Ah the misery of playing Japan in 44/45.




You did tell me to not put so much into the rockets.[:(] Michael told me all my late plane research would be for naught.[:(]

Everybody thought I could do better with my carriers than I did.[:(]

Nobody thought it was a big invasion of Hokkaido.[:(]

Lets face facts, I am pretty darn poor at most aspects of this game.[8|]



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[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: njp72

Lol, the challenges of playing Japan in 44/45.

My 2 cents:

1. You took over a impossible position and made it into an enjoyable, challenging game.

2. It is only a game.

3. If all else fails refer back to point 2


Seriously, once I made a conscious decision in a previous game not to try to target Allied fleet CVs (cap is murderous and too hard to hit) but instead try to target other elements of the fleet you can inflict decent damage.

CVEs and merchant shipping are particularly vulnerable. With the CVs try to attrite the naval aircraft not the shipping.

Ah the misery of playing Japan in 44/45.

Thanks,[:)]

I think I have to try on the deathstar again. His tactics of combining its planes with land based strikes at my engine factories will leave me with nothing. I have to turn off Frances factories to conserve Ha45 today.

I think he will go after either Kobe or Hamamatsu. They are the largest remaining Ha45 factories.

I am putting the Irving Sa on night attacks at 1000 feet. They are all piloted by Tracom wonders, and might actually hit something.

Given the rainy weather forecast, I think I will use one squadron of Judies, D4Y4 escorted with as many planes as I can muster.

[Lowpe]

One more try on the enemy carriers. One squadron of Myojo Kamikazes 65 skill escorted by hundreds of fighters including the fearsome KAI Dinah. Remember, back when I first made this plane and it was escorting strikes, it never ran into opposition. Perhaps it is my lucky plane and the Allies will cut their cap back to nothing.[:D] Right.

Iriving Sa on night strikes at 1000 feet. Very curious to see how this works out.

CAP over Honshu getting weaker...that is life.

Over in Thailand the retreat is going well. It seems the Allies are forging ahead in the clear hex of death nw of Bangkok, in fact he hardly bombed it this turn. 6 AA there now...perhaps it is the quiet before the calm.

He did attack on the forward positions, got a 1-1 and a 1-2. Not bad results, the two tank divisions are making good speed, and I think the withdraw will go well. First group of troops building up on the new Bangkok line or moving into position.

Engine damage is getting perilous....stockpiles will last a little but not long.

[Lowpe]

Upgraded some Zeke Kamikazes to Georges today. In a couple of days they will go on very high altitude kamikaze strikes.

Allies keep spotting my merchant ships in port, now I have to keep them in escort TF as I can't really defend their base from port attacks...especially at night.

Will probably stop building Irving Sa, 170 in the pool, and I will need the engines for fighters. Still making some Oscars and Tojos and Nick B.

The end comes...run for the hills![:D]

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Upgraded some Zeke Kamikazes to Georges today. In a couple of days they will go on very high altitude kamikaze strikes.

Are not kamikazes hard coded to arrive at 9000ft? If i remember correctly what ever orders You give them they will always arrive over target at 9k.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: koniu

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Upgraded some Zeke Kamikazes to Georges today. In a couple of days they will go on very high altitude kamikaze strikes.

Are not kamikazes hard coded to arrive at 9000ft? If i remember correctly what ever orders You give them they will always arrive over target at 9k.

I am pretty sure I had Zekes try from 38k, and Myojo from 30k. Now, I will have to go and double check.

[Lowpe]

It is a good day, and only getting better.

Have to move sending my files to onedrive because of file size.[:)]

Get a blowout on my car; had to change the tire right in the middle of a busy street, no shoulder at all. 15 minutes to get the spare on, but it is a itty bitty little tire.[:D]

Next up eye appointment if I can get there on the itty bitty little thing.[X(]

Then fix the blown out tire.

Then probably return home to watch poor Japan savaged again.

Could be worse, it could have been raining.[:D] Or, it could have happened to my wife, in which case I would need a new rim to.[:D]

[Lokasenna]

OK, here's a thought.

Why not try attacking at really high altitude, with your best fighters on escort? Try setting a small strike package with 3-4 fighter groups for escort. All under the same HQ, all that jazz for air coordination. You might try some kamikazes at 100 feet as well. I'm talking like... Georges on escort at 30K with good pilots. The George is so superior to the Hellcat, you should be able to wear down his CAP a little bit? The goal being to make him run off and get more planes (he has a finite number and you "don't"), or to fatigue/damage his planes and pilots if he does stick around for another day.


I'm going outside to do some car work myself. Need to unclog the exhaust on my 97 Chalkboard Altima so I can sell it. You wouldn't happen to be in the market, eh? [:'(]

[Lowpe]

March 21, 1944

Irving Sa make their night run and miss...

[Lowpe]

Two subs lost tonight...CL hvy damage and on fire.

[Lowpe]

Allied sweeps shred the CAP over Maebashi, Osaka and Nagoya.

But a strike...

[Lowpe]

Of course not, what was I thinking. Every single Myojo shot down.