RIDERS ON THE STORM-THANK YOU

[Mistmatz]

I wouldn't take any risks in China atm. With India soon gone your supply will be very, very grim. And the easier you make it for him there the sooner you'll see huge landings in the pacific. Delay him wherever you can but play it safe in China is my suggestion.

With the NPAC house rule I bet HI is totally empty, makes it even more dangerous to go for the Marianas... [;)][8D]
Does this btw. also mean no japanese operations against Alaska? If so that would mean some nice regiments as reinforcements without PP!

[Jim D Burns]

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz
Does this btw. also mean no japanese operations against Alaska? If so that would mean some nice regiments as reinforcements without PP!

Found their house rule, it's one sided, only prohibits the allies.

13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any amercian territory occupied by japanese, however.

Jim

[FeurerKrieg]

I agree with Jim here. After those para moves, I'd be marching all kinds of little units around in China to delay delay delay - something I wouldn't do in most games.

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Ok, but doing that i'll leave Changsha completely undefended!...even without supplies he can take whatever he wants with 6000 AVs...

He burns the same amount of supply every time he attacks whether he attacks one tiny unit or 50. So leave a unit to force him to attack every hex he has to advance through to get to Changsha. By the time he reaches Changsha he’ll be out of supply and that 6000 AV will only be 1500AV. His stuff will begin to disable very rapidly as well, so he won’t be able to take the base unless he does it very quickly.

Also if you have 3 or 4 units cycling into the combat hex, he won’t be able to move at all until he reduces their AV’s to zero (they retreat automatically when they are in an enemy hex and have 0 AV). So each turn set one unit to move towards his army. After 3 or so turns, your units will start arriving one at a time and he’ll have to stop and attack as each one enters the hex.

As soon as they get booted out, order them to move in again, rinse and repeat. I wouldn’t do this in most games unless he had armor that could shock-pursue, but given the para moves he just made I think it’s more than justified in this game.

Jim

[Mistmatz]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz
Does this btw. also mean no japanese operations against Alaska? If so that would mean some nice regiments as reinforcements without PP!

Found their house rule, it's one sided, only prohibits the allies.

13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any amercian territory occupied by japanese, however.

Jim

Too bad...

[FeurerKrieg]

GH Needs to poll the forum for better house rules for his next game. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz
Does this btw. also mean no japanese operations against Alaska? If so that would mean some nice regiments as reinforcements without PP!

Found their house rule, it's one sided, only prohibits the allies.

13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any amercian territory occupied by japanese, however.

Jim

[Elladan]

Hmm, Kiukang is a sound move, with a swamp there you have chances to block his supply line. What forces do you have in Honan/Yenen area? Would it be possible to stage an attack there to force him to withdraw something from Changsa?

As for possible Mariana operation, after a bit of thought I would for now stay where you are and fortify/build airfields. After some time, say a month, evaluate situation again and if you see he's going to have his forces stuck at Karachi and China for months do some recon on Marianas, by sub invasions or paradrops. If you still see weak defenses and have forces for this go farther west. Just my 2c

[Gen.Hoepner]

Thx guys for your constant support.

The turn has arrived.

The news:
- Truk: we have finally driven his attention here. He moved 130 fighters, 80 bombers and more 167 aux (which probably are damaged a/c)...I'm trying to reinforce Eniwatok with supplies and units...let's see if i can start an attrition air battle!

-China: i decided to try to rush for Changsha...I've spared all the forces i could...however having him many tank units he will surely shock and pursue...so he's gonna arrive sooner than me...I'll try to see what he has in the north...if he has 6500 AVs in the south...how many divisions could he have up in the north? how many AVs? Considering also that he surely has brought some units from Manchukoku...

-India...nothing particular to mention.

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

You don't need to take the base, just get units into the hex and their zoc stops the supplies from flowing. I'd say 1300 AV is enough to prevent him from throwing you out without his main army returning to do the job.

Jim

Jim, even with 1500 AVs he can take a base completely undefended like Changsha...gotta gain time and find another place to strike him in the back...

[Gen.Hoepner]

Remember that cycling my units as you suggested cannot be done if he has 6 tank regiments with him...he will simply follow me till the end of the map like he has done in India...

[witpqs]

Do you plan to take Kwajelein? Staying in the Marshalls seems to make the most sense, and Kwajelain would be a rgeat base, close enough to support Eniwetok. Most importantly, it could give you enough LBA to work with your carriers in opposing KB in a decisive engagement.

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Do you plan to take Kwajelein? Staying in the Marshalls seems to make the most sense, and Kwajelain would be a rgeat base, close enough to support Eniwetok. Most importantly, it could give you enough LBA to work with your carriers in opposing KB in a decisive engagement.

Not untill i'm sure it's reduced enough! So not anytime soon.
Right now it will be a bloodbath. there are nearly 30,000 men there, most of which, i'm sure, are naval garrison units and SNLF...i'm too weak right now to try this kind of operation.
I'll try to take Ponape, just to deny him a base for Mavis/emilies...gotta recon it a bit to see what he really has there...

[witpqs]

If you can't risk capturing it before he returns from his little adventure then it should be a great on the job training area for your LBA keeping it suppressed - make things even hotter for the KB! [:D]

[FeurerKrieg]

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Considering also that he surely has brought some units from Manchukoku...

Let me guess... no house rule preventing Kwangtung units from moving to China?

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

Considering also that he surely has brought some units from Manchukoku...

Let me guess... no house rule preventing Kwangtung units from moving to China?
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Good guess!
I've already spotted several units moving from Manchucoku to China...

So, how many AVs can he has in China right now?

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

If you can't risk capturing it before he returns from his little adventure then it should be a great on the job training area for your LBA keeping it suppressed - make things even hotter for the KB! [:D]

That's for sure mate! I'll train to hell my LBAs and fighters!!!! Wanna have a strong air force once he will be coming!

[FeurerKrieg]

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

Considering also that he surely has brought some units from Manchukoku...

Let me guess... no house rule preventing Kwangtung units from moving to China?

Good guess!
I've already spotted several units moving from Manchucoku to China...

So, how many AVs can he has in China right now?
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Well, you start with some 8800 in Kwangtung alone, IIRC.

Are there any house rules that benefit the allies in this game? (Note - I'm a JFB) [X(]

[FeurerKrieg]

What's up with these HRs - I finally got around to reading them.

10. Except initial chinese exp.force, only 2 other chinese corps could be changed to southeast asia command and be able to fight in burma and india. There is no restriction to support units, however. Those 2 corps should be announced.
11.chinese forces under china command can fight in manchuria, korea,taiwan, vietnam, but not siam, burma,DEI,or india, etc.


But Japs can move from Manchukuo?!?[:-]

[Gen.Hoepner]

...wonder what i'll do when Tojo and Tonies will come to the front...i will probably have just to sit down and wait for my death-star...[:o]

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

What's up with these HRs - I finally got around to reading them.

10. Except initial chinese exp.force, only 2 other chinese corps could be changed to southeast asia command and be able to fight in burma and india. There is no restriction to support units, however. Those 2 corps should be announced.
11.chinese forces under china command can fight in manchuria, korea,taiwan, vietnam, but not siam, burma,DEI,or india, etc.


But Japs can move from Manchukuo?!?[:-]

I know...i didn't think too much when i agreed...He offered me the game and i took all the HRs he asked just thinking that i wanted a game...never had these kind of problems before...

however guys, these are the HRs and i simply have to live with them or abbandon the game. But i want to play so let's take them as they are and let's try not to lose at least

[Jim D Burns]

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner
167 aux

I'd say he's going to air lift his troops out of Kwajalein with that many aux aircraft around. Either that or he's air lifting supplies in. Try flying LRCAP and sweeps over Kwajalein and see if you don't bag a bunch of his transports. LRCAP will intercept offensive missions and sweeps will intercept defensive missions. I know air lifting supplies is offensive, but I have no idea if air lifting troops out is considered offensive or defensive.

He may also be trying some para ops, make sure you leave at least a RCT at each island you take that is in range of Truk based air transports.

Jim