Empire strikes back- NJP vs Wargmr Game over :-)

[njp72]

It was a massive day of battles as the Russians and US forces assaulted multiple positions across Korea and were repulsed with heavy losses (thousands of casualties, and plenty of AFVs destroyed as the Japanese still have supply in Korea).

Unfortunately these victories were somewhat reduced by the elimination of multiple cut off and starving pockets of IJA in China. [8|]

[njp72]

Korea- current status

The red stars indicate strong IJA positions usually with 800 AV+ with armour and arty.

Note there are very little positions on the coast as Allied BB bombardments just murder even strong defensive positions. I much prefer to fight his air, for at least I can inflict some casualties and have a chance.

You will also note the 20+ allied units heading south to avenge his armour [8|]

[njp72]

Int screen- score board

Two key take aways from this screen shot.

1. The incredible difference in base points as I have effectively lost just about every position on the map except Japan and some central islands [:D]

2. The massive ground unit losses on both sides. I think it is the highest I have just about seen in a Pbem so the slaughter amongst our digital men has indeed been horrific[;)]

With still plenty of loyal and devout servants, plenty of air and quite a few ships left there is absolutely no thought of surrender.

[savelius2]

It looks like you're suffering the most on the air front. Between now and February you lost almost 5000 VP of planes, while your opponent only lost 1500. Base points you can't do much about, same with the elimination of pocketed forces (and I don't know what portion of your army points come from that versus your counterattack, etc), but on the air side it looks like throwing planes against shipping is a losing proposition.

Even if you killed multiple fleet carriers, if it cost you thousands of planes you might end up worse off on the VP ratio. And transport ships, while valuable from a game standpoint, just don't have the VP value to be worth the planes to sink them if you're playing for time.

On the plus side you're almost out of base points to lose, which is the biggest factor in the VP ratio, and the ground war if not overly one sided favors you too.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: njp72

Korea- current status

The red stars indicate strong IJA positions usually with 800 AV+ with armour and arty.

Note there are very little positions on the coast as Allied BB bombardments just murder even strong defensive positions. I much prefer to fight his air, for at least I can inflict some casualties and have a chance.

You will also note the 20+ allied units heading south to avenge his armour [8|]

I would pull all forces in Korea to E/W line at Keijo. Otherwise you risk losing all those forces to no gain. Move quick before he cuts the Eastern RR line going south ...

[Lowpe]

Keijo does look like a nice line.[:)] Well a potential nice line.

Moppo and Gunzan probably can't be held....do to naval bombardment.


Going after ships is just really tough...especially Allied fleet carriers and floating AA ships.

Great fight, and I have never seen the Allies lose so much in lcu vp in a pbem before either.

[PaxMondo]

Active SOV makes for very bloody ground war ... we haven't seen an AAR with SOV active this long since ... well I don't remember one right now ... [;)]

[njp72]

Thanks savelius2 there are some good points below.

I did on at least 2 occasions get suckered into attacking his CVs and promptly paid a high price. It certainly was not my intention and since then I have kept a close eye on my range settings as to not fall for the same trap again. As you will note throughout my entire AAR I have often tried to attack softer targets as opposed to trying to sink his CVs.

Unfortunately Japanese airframes are fickle and flimsy beasts and Mike really knows how to keep the pressure on. Massive sweeps at critical locations (which I must defend) followed by hundreds of bombers concentrated on a single airbase will inevitably lead to high losses.

On the plus side I know he is really feeling his losses and his pools are light on, especially the B24J. Even his fighters have taken heavy losses where as my pools despite the carnage, continue to build. I will run out of supply first before I run out of airframes and pilots.

On another note, these training groups just don't stop arriving in 45!!!!!

ORIGINAL: savelius2

It looks like you're suffering the most on the air front. Between now and February you lost almost 5000 VP of planes, while your opponent only lost 1500. Base points you can't do much about, same with the elimination of pocketed forces (and I don't know what portion of your army points come from that versus your counterattack, etc), but on the air side it looks like throwing planes against shipping is a losing proposition.

Even if you killed multiple fleet carriers, if it cost you thousands of planes you might end up worse off on the VP ratio. And transport ships, while valuable from a game standpoint, just don't have the VP value to be worth the planes to sink them if you're playing for time.

On the plus side you're almost out of base points to lose, which is the biggest factor in the VP ratio, and the ground war if not overly one sided favors you too.

[njp72]

True but the forces continue to inflict heavy losses on the Soviets who enjoy attacking head first into machine guns and dug in arty.[;)]

He doesn't have the combat power to sever those lines yet and I don't want the Soviets to come pouring through the gaps. Kanko and Genzan are important bases and hubs for me at the moment and I don't want to surrender them just yet. Kanko is great for shipping supply into which Mike keeps on thinking are emergency evacs. [:)]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

I would pull all forces in Korea to E/W line at Keijo. Otherwise you risk losing all those forces to no gain. Move quick before he cuts the Eastern RR line going south ...
[/quote]

[njp72]

Thanks Lowpe, it is not a bad line except Keijo is open to BB bombardments which is very annoying[8|]

In the end either way I am totally screwed but I am somewhat hoping the frustration he is feeling in Korea will lead to a premature invasion of the HIs. The HIs would be an utter nightmare for him given the level of fortifications, armour, inf and arty stuck there due to a lack of PPs.

I can only live in hope.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Keijo does look like a nice line.[:)] Well a potential nice line.

Moppo and Gunzan probably can't be held....do to naval bombardment.


Going after ships is just really tough...especially Allied fleet carriers and floating AA ships.

Great fight, and I have never seen the Allies lose so much in lcu vp in a pbem before either.

[njp72]

That was always the plan [:D]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Active SOV makes for very bloody ground war ... we haven't seen an AAR with SOV active this long since ... well I don't remember one right now ... [;)]

[njp72]

Knocked out Allied armour in Korea 14th Apr after our heavenly victory dedicated to the Emperor[:)]

[njp72]

Well I'm being pounded at the moment across the map and I would have thought the one safe place would have been Keijo in Korea after his armour was smashed.

Surely Mike would wait, consolidate and conduct some recon before applying additional pressure.

Nope as always, Mike starts moving in for the kill

[njp72]

He paid for it this time which I guess will buy me about 1 to 2 turns in breathing space before he has another crack.[8|]

I can expect masses of 4e bombers and BB bombardments for my defiance.

[njp72]

Knocked out US armour in front of a 47mm RFG

[njp72]

Massive strikes went in this turn targeting 60+ allied ships in the port at Saishu To.

[njp72]

And the following picture sums up the Empire's performance and the remains of the strike packages.

[njp72]

Another accurate representation of what happened to about 100+ Judys this turn [8|]

The AA over the port was murderous which I should have come to expect in DBB by now.

[Lowpe]

I have to tell you, I am extremely worried about the AA in this mod.[:(] I simply am not sure how you counter it...

Will a high defense pilot help reduce the damage done by Flak?

[PaxMondo]

Are you able to put together +500 plane strikes at this time? And of your ~150 plane strike, how many were lost to AA vs CAP?

Asking as his CAP out numbered your strike by 2:1 ... for my strikes to get through '45 allied CAP, I have to be the 2:1 or no hope.