OT: Corona virus

[witpqs]

Erik can say for sure, but I think he meant the overall mortality rate would be higher than otherwise if/when the health care system is overwhelmed, and that is what the experts have said IIRC. That's the news coming from Italy, too.

[Uncivil Engineer]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Went to Costco yesterday to pick up the coupon items I wanted. On the way by that isle I noticed a sign - and the lack of stock - indicating they were completely out of toilet paper.

I think after production is adjusted to account for the current run on certain things, like TP, there are going to be some long draw-down of personal stockpiles of certain goods.

I did my weekly run through Publix this AM - they had plenty of toilet paper, and some brands were on sale. Clorox bleach was also on sale. I got both.

[Macclan5]

Am I the first ? Here ?

At Workplace Toronto Area (Canada) - Came into 'potential contact' with Primary COVID 19 confirmed - case; person was an international traveler.

Public Heath Department and Employer: have asked / insisted that all workers on that particular office floor Self Quarantine for 14 days.

No concerns in this for me - I feel properly morally obligated to follow "the doctors orders"

Risk of infection deemed "low to moderate" as I did not interact directly with person - only same floor area of office tower.

Working from home - day 6 of self quarantine. Minimizing contact with Spouse and daughters.

Public Health assures me in direct conversations chance of infecting my family very low - especially as I have not demonstrated any symptoms. Fever, progressive cough, progressive sinus, etc.

Lots of hand washing. Lots of "bleach wipes door handles and light switches".

Sleeping on couch in basement.

Positive Note: was able to get some solid hours (stolen from work / family time) into WITPAE and successfully conquered the Marianas earlier than ever before due to much stronger attention to details : (i) troop preparation (ii) raids by my own early version of TF58 (iii) proper bombardment and (iv) proper mine sweeping... albiet against the AI - Hard - on Beta patch [8D]

[RangerJoe]

So at least something good has come out of your quarantine . . .

[geofflambert]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

I'am more concerned about the "CURES" than I'am the disease.

quote from Descartes: "I'am what I'am"

[geofflambert]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

How Tom Hanks and wife Rita Wilson mingled with fans, visited Bondi Beach, the Opera House and went on morning breakfast show Today - before they tested positive for the coronavirus

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -test.html


“Mama always said, dying was a part of life." - Forrest Gump

He has experience in quarantine.

Are you saying his castaway friend "Wilson" represented his wife Rita?

[geofflambert]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Good interview on COVID-19:

https://youtu.be/cZFhjMQrVts

Here is a link to the PODcast website with the entire interview. Some of it goes into other infectious diseases, but the current corona virus outbreak is the main topic. The whole thing is very worthwhile.

http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/michael-osterholm

Very nice, thank you. I would like to point out about the tick borne diseases, chickens like wood ticks. Ticks also don't like the smell of garlic. Neither do mosquitoes.

Neither do deer (with their ticks) or any other type of lily, onions, scallions and chives etc. That's a garden tip for those with deer problems, mix in some arum family members.

[btd64]

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Am I the first ? Here ?

At Workplace Toronto Area (Canada) - Came into 'potential contact' with Primary COVID 19 confirmed - case; person was an international traveler.

Public Heath Department and Employer: have asked / insisted that all workers on that particular office floor Self Quarantine for 14 days.

No concerns in this for me - I feel properly morally obligated to follow "the doctors orders"

Risk of infection deemed "low to moderate" as I did not interact directly with person - only same floor area of office tower.

Working from home - day 6 of self quarantine. Minimizing contact with Spouse and daughters.

Public Health assures me in direct conversations chance of infecting my family very low - especially as I have not demonstrated any symptoms. Fever, progressive cough, progressive sinus, etc.

Lots of hand washing. Lots of "bleach wipes door handles and light switches".

Sleeping on couch in basement.

Positive Note: was able to get some solid hours (stolen from work / family time) into WITPAE and successfully conquered the Marianas earlier than ever before due to much stronger attention to details : (i) troop preparation (ii) raids by my own early version of TF58 (iii) proper bombardment and (iv) proper mine sweeping... albiet against the AI - Hard - on Beta patch [8D]

Good luck dude....GP

[Kull]

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Sleeping on couch in basement.

And not at your spouses direction! Or, well, at least not for the "usual reasons". [;)][/quote]

Positive Note: was able to get some solid hours (stolen from work / family time) into WITPAE and successfully conquered the Marianas earlier than ever before due to much stronger attention to details : (i) troop preparation (ii) raids by my own early version of TF58 (iii) proper bombardment and (iv) proper mine sweeping... albiet against the AI - Hard - on Beta patch [8D]

The entire world economy might crash, but computer game stocks should be a real good investment!

[Erik Rutins]

ORIGINAL: witpqs
Erik can say for sure, but I think he meant the overall mortality rate would be higher than otherwise if/when the health care system is overwhelmed, and that is what the experts have said IIRC. That's the news coming from Italy, too.

Yes, that was exactly my point - that the mortality rates we've seen so far can easily rise if not enough hospital beds are available for those who need them. With good hospital care, it's mostly only the elderly or chronically ill who are dying, but there are many others who are being hospitalized. If a smaller percentage can access good hospital care while sick, their chance of a good outcome will decrease.

Regards,

- Erik

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

The entire population of the planet will eventually be exposed.

The only madness is thinking anyone one of us can hide from it.

I, like most people, might be able to stretch my stockpiles to last a month.

Only the survivalists we, as a society, have been making fun of for years, have stockpiled the resources necessary to survive the shut down of the distribution of goods for any lengthy duration.

Shutting down the distribution of goods is the quickest way possible to bring about the zombie apocalypse.

Yeah, we need a food production and distribution plan now for implementation by summer. It should include migrant workers who plant and harvest much of our produce. Canneries and frozen food producers might have to up their production. Those in the know can work out how to integrate free market decisions with minimum requirements for the population.

But it needs to be coordinated by czars who have the macro picture of the country's needs and transportation availability. Any excess would be available for export. We can't afford to have production sit in remote warehouses or spoiling in the field.

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

I'am more concerned about the "CURES" than I'am the disease.

quote from Descartes: "I'am what I'am"

Descartes?

[geofflambert]

Popeye's a yam.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

I'am more concerned about the "CURES" than I'am the disease.

quote from Descartes: "I'am what I'am"

Is that Iambic Pentameter? You're a secret poet laureate of this forum?

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

I'am more concerned about the "CURES" than I'am the disease.

quote from Descartes: "I'am what I'am"

Descartes?!

[geofflambert]

From Woodrow Wilson Woodpecker, a haiku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_IDGrKZ0Rs

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

ORIGINAL: witpqs
Erik can say for sure, but I think he meant the overall mortality rate would be higher than otherwise if/when the health care system is overwhelmed, and that is what the experts have said IIRC. That's the news coming from Italy, too.

Yes, that was exactly my point - that the mortality rates we've seen so far can easily rise if not enough hospital beds are available for those who need them. With good hospital care, it's mostly only the elderly or chronically ill who are dying, but there are many others who are being hospitalized. If a smaller percentage can access good hospital care while sick, their chance of a good outcome will decrease.

Regards,

- Erik

One of the Public Health doctors being interviewed on a news channel mentioned that Doctors would then be forced into brutal choices. If there are three people needing a ventilator to keep them alive and only one is available, which do you choose? I have already accepted that, at my age, I would not likely be one of the chosen so my will already says "no heroic measures" and my NOK know that. Anything to make their and the physicians decision easier.

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Am I the first ? Here ?

At Workplace Toronto Area (Canada) - Came into 'potential contact' with Primary COVID 19 confirmed - case; person was an international traveler.

Public Heath Department and Employer: have asked / insisted that all workers on that particular office floor Self Quarantine for 14 days.

No concerns in this for me - I feel properly morally obligated to follow "the doctors orders"

Risk of infection deemed "low to moderate" as I did not interact directly with person - only same floor area of office tower.

Working from home - day 6 of self quarantine. Minimizing contact with Spouse and daughters.

Public Health assures me in direct conversations chance of infecting my family very low - especially as I have not demonstrated any symptoms. Fever, progressive cough, progressive sinus, etc.

Lots of hand washing. Lots of "bleach wipes door handles and light switches".

Sleeping on couch in basement.

Positive Note: was able to get some solid hours (stolen from work / family time) into WITPAE and successfully conquered the Marianas earlier than ever before due to much stronger attention to details : (i) troop preparation (ii) raids by my own early version of TF58 (iii) proper bombardment and (iv) proper mine sweeping... albiet against the AI - Hard - on Beta patch [8D]

LOCKDOWN THE FORUM!!!

[geofflambert]

SH: "It's a hoax, I tell you". AJ on Hanks and Wilson: "This whole thing is being staged by the DNC, they're using actors"

[Canoerebel]

H1N1 in 2009: In America, 60,000,000 infected; 300,000 hospitalized; 14,000 dead.

Hospitals not overwhelmed; medicines not out of stock; no runs on supplies; no travel restrictions imposed (for months, at least).

I didn't even remember H1N1 until I looked it up, prodded by a discussion I heard on the radio yesterday.