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Cribtop
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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE!

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You should come to some reasonable accommodation on night bombing, as night firebombing is what finally made the B-29 the terror weapon it was designed to be.

There is a reason the US targeted Hiroshima and Nagasaki for the A-bombs. The bigger cites (Tokyo, Nagoya, Osaka) had already been firebombed into the stone ages to the point that even an atomic weapon would've been just bouncing rubble (well, bouncing ashes).

On another topic, if that's your GF I'd resign the game to rader. Focusing on her is a strategic victory for you in the long run. [:D][;)]
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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE!

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Ok, i've done a full moon cycle night bombing test.
 
Starting base: Hakodate
Target Base: Maebashi
 
At Maebashi i've placed 150 flak guns (88mm and 120mm)
 
1 group of 64 B-29-25 (60 exp)
1 group of 64 B-29D (60 Exp)
1 group of 30 Liberators VIIIGR (those with 8x 250kg bombs and radars).
1 group of 16 recon planes
 
Nachtjag is composed by 3 sentais with 70 exp
 
 
First rounds (only 64 B-29Ds committed):
 
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 01, 45
 
*when you see nothing it means bad weather or "stray"
 
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 02, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 24
      S1A1 Denko x 27
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 35
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (4 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (2 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (5 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 24
      S1A1 Denko x 26
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 34
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      24 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (26 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      26 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      28 plane(s) intercepting now.
      6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 03, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 23
      S1A1 Denko x 24
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 40
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 9
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (3 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (4 airborne, 20 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (10 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      10 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 23
      S1A1 Denko x 24
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 39
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 19
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 2
Fires 610
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      19 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      14 plane(s) intercepting now.
      9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (30 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      30 plane(s) intercepting now.
      9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 04, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 05, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 25
      S1A1 Denko x 29
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 17
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 8 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 551
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      17 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (3 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (7 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (7 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 23
      S1A1 Denko x 29
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 33
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 19
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 1076
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      19 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (29 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      29 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (30 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      30 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 06, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid spotted at 74 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 27
      S1A1 Denko x 27
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 13
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 9 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      13 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 18
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 34
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 16
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 690
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      16 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (34 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      34 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
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Now i committed the rest of the groups....
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 07, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 27
      S1A1 Denko x 25
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 40
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 5
      B-29B Superfort x 27
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
      B-29B Superfort: 10 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 636
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      27 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (1 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 24000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 23
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 35
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 36
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      36 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      16 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      11 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      24 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 11 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 22
      S1A1 Denko x 17
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 34
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 19
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      19 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      17 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (34 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      34 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 21
      S1A1 Denko x 16
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 32
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      16 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (32 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      32 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 08, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 09, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 29
      S1A1 Denko x 27
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 27
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 9 damaged
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      25 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 25000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 26000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (1 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 24000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 23
      S1A1 Denko x 22
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 14
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      13 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      27 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 20
      S1A1 Denko x 22
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      20 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      27 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 19
      S1A1 Denko x 22
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 618
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      27 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 19
      S1A1 Denko x 22
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
      B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed by flak
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      27 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 10, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 11, 45-
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 12, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 27
      S1A1 Denko x 25
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 27
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 19 damaged
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      27 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (0 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 23000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 26000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (6 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      6 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 24000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 21
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 23
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged
      B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 21
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 23
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 7 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 19
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 22
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 19
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 21
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      13 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      16 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 17
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 21
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      17 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 17
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 21
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      17 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Raid is overhead
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 13, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 14, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 15, 45
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Here i told all the AA at maebashi to be on strat mod...
 
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 16, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 30
      S1A1 Denko x 29
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 37
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 34
      B-29B Superfort x 48
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 15 damaged
      B-29B Superfort: 14 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 20
Fires 9180
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      48 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      34 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (5 airborne, 22 on standby, 3 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (7 airborne, 22 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (7 airborne, 30 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 22
      S1A1 Denko x 26
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 28
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 8
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      C6N1-S Myrt: 1 destroyed
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
      17 plane(s) intercepting now.
      2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      20 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 13
      S1A1 Denko x 19
      Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 16
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 20000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      10 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (13 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      13 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 

 
 
Results? 5...i say 5 armament points damaged....nothing else.... i really don't see where the strat night bombing is borked....
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On another topic, if that's your GF I'd resign the game to rader. Focusing on her is a strategic victory for you in the long run. [:D][;)]


[:D] lol, given how she looks like and when thinking about the Allied position in the game I can only agree... [;)]
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Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please

AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...

Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ...[;)] This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...[:'(]
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On another topic, if that's your GF I'd resign the game to rader. Focusing on her is a strategic victory for you in the long run. [:D][;)]


[:D] lol, given how she looks like and when thinking about the Allied position in the game I can only agree... [;)]

:-) well, i'm trying to get a strategic victory by making her read an alternate history novel about the german nachtjag, where the night "experten" make a kamikaze attack at Bukingham palace killing the king and churchill during a night meeting [:D]
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What was your DL level over the target?  Also, what would the results be if the planes flew in at 10 or 15k?  Does that make a difference?  If so, is the difference worthwhile?
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What was your DL level over the target?  Also, what would the results be if the planes flew in at 10 or 15k?  Does that make a difference?  If so, is the difference worthwhile?

DL levels were at maximum...with the recon planes flying every day at 10k feet without any opposition (no day fighters present)....

Gotta make some tests at 10k....
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Doesn't seem very impressive atm, that firebombing wouldn't do anything.

On the other hand, seems that that would be a pretty minor strike if you wanted to wage a major firebombing campaign.
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Did you have a chance to check what exactly the manpower hit 1, fire 6xx is? Does the fire actually hurt anything else except the man power?
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I believe that invade Korea is find several LV9 AF to strat bombing the west part of Japan, which is basically untouched yet. And the intact HI there are producing 350 Shinden for Japs right now.

Allied won't able to effectively strat bombing with Shinden on cap therefore Shinden factories must go!

For this sole purpose we need to invade Korea. If Japs dare to contest us at Korea, and they happened to loss a bulk of Army during that contest, thus leads to Soviet activation, I don't see why it should considered gamey.[:D]

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Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please

AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...

Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ...[;)] This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...[:'(]
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Yes, all those fires only damaged 5 points of the armament industry....nothing more....

And eubanana, we're talking about 150 4engines bombers committed....the point is that a huge majority of them , every night, stray and don't reach the target
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Unfortunately we have strict HRs that limits night bombing to 10k feet and to 50 max bombers during the full moon nights.... Not a viable option...


GJ, you are being too way to fair to Rader. The advanced introduction date of his modern fighters was an exploit of a major bug and it does not matter if he did it deliberately or unknowingly. It has given him an undue advantage. I recommend that you have a frank discussion with him about this and perhaps you can work out a solution. This fighter should not show up under the best of circumstances until mid to late 45.

Personally, I would have a big problem it this happened to me and consider it a game breaker. I can't imagine many Japanese players who think this is a reasonable or fair way to play Japan...The Sam is bad enough, but you can expect to see his jets within a few months...
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Can anyone confirm that you can trigger Soviet by landing at Korea? Please

AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...

Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ...[;)] This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...[:'(]

Invading Korea and presenting the IJ command with the choice of facing those forces by bringing in troops from China (weakening that front) or Manchuria (risking or outright triggering Soviet Activation) or facing the invasion by bringing in forces from elsewhere + forces present - that seems like a legitimate strategic maneuver to me. Even if those invading forces were success enough that they were sent into Manchuria to attrite IJA forces down below 8,000 AV seems legitimate, as IRL IMO the Soviets would jump in if they saw western troops beating the tar out of the IJA in Manchuria. The Soviets would have the double motive of opportunity and opposing western influences.

I haven't taken part in all the discussions in this AAR, but I think your idea was sound as in not gamey. Maybe it would have been a bridge too far without Suddenly Hairy already a success, though.
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AFAIK no...you need to reduce the AV of Manchukuko garrison below 8000...which isn't exactly an easy task...

Unless the IJ reduce the occupation forces to a minimum and suffer some losses ...[;)] This was mentioned by moi early in this campaign before "Really Hairy" .. Invade Korea with the idea of cutting off, bombing, and eliminating AV in Manchukyko with the explicit purpose of Soviet Activation. It was considered "gamey" ...[:'(]

Invading Korea and presenting the IJ command with the choice of facing those forces by bringing in troops from China (weakening that front) or Manchuria (risking or outright triggering Soviet Activation) or facing the invasion by bringing in forces from elsewhere + forces present - that seems like a legitimate strategic maneuver to me. Even if those invading forces were success enough that they were sent into Manchuria to attrite IJA forces down below 8,000 AV seems legitimate, as IRL IMO the Soviets would jump in if they saw western troops beating the tar out of the IJA in Manchuria. The Soviets would have the double motive of opportunity and opposing western influences.

I haven't taken part in all the discussions in this AAR, but I think your idea was sound as in not gamey. Maybe it would have been a bridge too far without Suddenly Hairy already a success, though.

Well, so long as we're talking theoretically about what the Soviets would have done in this alternate history...

I suspect that the Soviets would be seriously angry about the surprise (mostly) American invasion of Hokkaido and Honshu with ground troops. The presence of so many American troops right on the Soviet Frontier, let alone and Japanese home islands would be causing conniptions in top Sov circles. I wouldn't put it past Uncle Joe to politically protest or make it harder for the Americans to move further into the Asian mainland. Expect them to expedite their Manchurian invasion at all hazards.

As the Sovs would likely have to use some forces from their European front in this area, this would clearly reduce their ability to shoulder the entirety of land combat in the European continent. I would expect them to clearly-very clearly-remind the Allies what the price would be to their backing off the pressure on the Germans at this tender period in the war. Think Ike wants another 10 German Divisions in Normandy before June, 1944? Think Marshall might put some pressure on the conduct of the Pacific war? I'd argue that all signs would be to 'slow things down' in and around Japan, particularly on the Asian mainland.

So, if you're stumping for a fight on Korea, I say you're also looking to weaken Russia's cooperation in the Soviet Far East, increasing the likelihood of immediate Soviet activation and capture of Manchuria themselves.

I think the Soviets would have 'jumped' based upon this massive surprise attack on Hokkaido, the Kuriles and now Honshu. Any Korean expedition would merely be icing on the cake. I also think there would be cries from Washington about adventurism and slowing things down-lest the Normandy invasion have unanticipated resistance.
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Another run. 15k feet. less night fighters and only 8 AA guns present (but 20cm AA guns).
 
only 2 engine factory points damaged after 12 days of bombings....
 
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 01, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 02, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      S1A1 Denko x 32
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 36
      B-29-25 Superfort x 36
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 6
Fires 3547
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      36 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      36 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 21 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      10 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
 
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      S1A1 Denko x 31
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
 
 
 
Manpower hits 2
Fires 4162
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (26 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      26 plane(s) intercepting now.
      4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
 
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      S1A1 Denko x 30
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 4250
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      28 plane(s) intercepting now.
      1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
 
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      S1A1 Denko x 24
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 36
      B-29B Superfort x 36
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 23
Fires 7430
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      36 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      36 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (4 airborne, 18 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 39370.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
 
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      S1A1 Denko x 22
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 19
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 7583
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      19 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      17 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 39370.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
 
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      S1A1 Denko x 22
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 8
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (17 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      17 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 39370.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
 
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
 
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      S1A1 Denko x 20
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      15 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 39370.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
 
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 32
      S1A1 Denko x 22
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 5
      B-29B Superfort x 48
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
      B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 23
Fires 16071
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      48 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (6 airborne, 24 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      6 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 22000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (5 airborne, 16 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 30
      S1A1 Denko x 19
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 10
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 4
Fires 13983
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      10 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (28 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      28 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 16000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 29
      S1A1 Denko x 19
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       7 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (27 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      27 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 27
      S1A1 Denko x 16
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 33
      B-29-25 Superfort x 5
      B-29B Superfort x 9
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 4 damaged
      B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 7
Fires 6539
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      33 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       9 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (3 airborne, 22 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 12 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 27
      S1A1 Denko x 13
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 16
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 2
Fires 7879
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      15 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      20 plane(s) intercepting now.
      5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      12 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 26
      S1A1 Denko x 13
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 16
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 4
Fires 10559
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      15 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      24 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      12 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 26
      S1A1 Denko x 11
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 11313
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (24 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      24 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      10 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 23
      S1A1 Denko x 11
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      10 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 23
      S1A1 Denko x 9
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 11988
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 07, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 28
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 5
      B-29B Superfort x 39
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Manpower hits 4
Fires 4548
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      39 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (4 airborne, 22 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 27
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 15
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      15 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 26
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 25
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      20 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      13 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 24
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      19 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 19000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      13 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 31
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 27
      B-29-25 Superfort x 21
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 3
Fires 2190
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      27 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      21 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (6 airborne, 24 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      6 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 24
      S1A1 Denko x 13
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 12
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 5
Fires 2591
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      9 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 24
      S1A1 Denko x 12
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 20
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 2911
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      20 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 24
      S1A1 Denko x 10
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 4
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Manpower hits 3
Fires 9010
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      9 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 24
      S1A1 Denko x 10
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (23 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      23 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      9 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 09, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 30
      S1A1 Denko x 19
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 33
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 1594
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      32 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (7 airborne, 22 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (5 airborne, 12 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 28
      S1A1 Denko x 17
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 16
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 4
Fires 3860
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      16 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      15 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 26
      S1A1 Denko x 17
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 2
Fires 5060
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      15 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (22 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      22 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 25
      S1A1 Denko x 16
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 4
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
      14 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      21 plane(s) intercepting now.
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 21
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 5
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Manpower hits 1
Fires 5518
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      14 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      20 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 21
      S1A1 Denko x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 5
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      14 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (20 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      20 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 10, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 11, 45
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 12, 45
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 28
      S1A1 Denko x 17
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Liberator GR.VI x 35
      B-29-25 Superfort x 9
      B-29B Superfort x 21
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
      B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
      B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 6
Fires 3702
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      35 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      21 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       9 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (4 airborne, 20 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 19
      S1A1 Denko x 9
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29B Superfort x 26
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Manpower hits 6
Fires 6677
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      26 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      C6N1-S Myrt x 19
      S1A1 Denko x 8
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-29-25 Superfort x 8
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet
               City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
S-166 Hikotai  with C6N1-S Myrt (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      18 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-902 Hikotai  with S1A1 Denko (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
 
Some CAP have air radar
 
 
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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE!

Post by GreyJoy »

Then i swicthed for 3 nights on Tokyo airfields where 1300 planes were grounded... 150 flak guns present (those that starts with downfall scenario). 10,000 feet, no night fighters....

results of the whole test run (16 days) in the screenshot...

...i really don't find night bombing borked in any way....



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 13, 45
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 31


Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
     S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
     6 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
     31 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 32


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 9 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
     32 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 14, 45

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 15, 45
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 21
     B-29B Superfort x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed on ground
     S1A1 Denko: 2 destroyed on ground
     Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed on ground
     K5Y1 Willow: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 3 destroyed on ground
     Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
     Ki-9 Spruce: 1 destroyed on ground
     L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 6 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
     5 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
     44 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
     21 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29-25 Superfort x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-36 Ida: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
     23 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 7 damaged



Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
      8 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 16, 45
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 9
     B-29-25 Superfort x 43
     B-29B Superfort x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-9 Spruce: 2 destroyed on ground
     Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 1 destroyed on ground
     K5Y1 Willow: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     A6M7 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
     B-29-25 Superfort: 14 damaged
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
     43 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      9 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     Liberator GR.VI x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator GR.VI: 5 damaged



Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
     16 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  8 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     no flights


Allied aircraft
     B-29B Superfort x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
     Ki-9 Spruce: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
     B-29B Superfort: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
      4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
              Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb





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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE!

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I disagree that they would have pulled troops from the European front. That was simply too important to them, and to Stalin himself. Would they have Activated upon the invasion of Hokkiado? I don't know, but I suppose it's possible as I do agree about their concerns. If they did, that of course would make the Allies job a bit easier on Hokkaido and northern Honshu and vice versa. I suppose I'm being a bit conservative when I say, in effect 'if the Allies weakened the IJA in Manchuria below 8,000 AV the Soviets would Activate IRL'. But to the matter of would doing that be gamey, I think it's clear that it would not be. Certainly I'm not advocating an HR to trigger Soviet Activation for something other than the drop below 8,000 AV (although such HRs for other contests are of course quite valid, I'm just speaking about GJ & Rader's contest).
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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE!

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Right. So, something to model the political cost to the Americans of an early Soviet activation should be considered. After all, this may not have been a 'good' thing for the American high command. So, I propose that early activation of the Soviets be done by a home islands invasion, an Allied Korean invasion or-last but not least-an Allied Manchurian invasion.

Any pre-scheduled Soviet activation instigated by the Allies, would have the effect of costing approximately 2,000 political points to the Allied WiTP:AE command. This charge would reflect the serious political costs (post-war) of a greater than historical Soviet force distribution / political influence throughout the area.

But, no, in GreyJoy and Rader's game, an Allied invasion of Korea is in no way gamey and does not appear to be in contravention of any HRs. I'm just suggesting that it (whether or not the Manchurian garrison is weakened below 8,000AV) should immediately activate the Soviets. There should be post-war consideration to the conduct of the war, much as there are VP level limitations once 2+ atomic bombs are used. Perhaps an early Soviet activation due to aforementioned Allied invasion could shift the victory level down one? Yes. That sounds better.
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RE: 1st oct 1944 Shidens ONLINE!

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I believe the Manpower attacks need to be at less than 10,000ft to have the desired effect, and sustained on a daily basis.

Note that FIRES are the only way to actually destroy factories rather than just damaging them.

I have had some success with unopposed Sallies in China doing this, so B-29s shouldn't really have a problem. I would consider sending over night fighters in sweeps to get rid of the Japanese night fighters thereby allowing the bombers to deliver their ordnance in an un-disrupted and more accurate manner.
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