Extreme Challenge Demonstration Game

[Alby]

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PBEM PBEM PBEM!!!!!!

[Riun T]

I'm terribly sorry I've upset u and didn't think I was kibitzing and will post to show my reasoning but u gotta settle down man!! I'm one of the kindest old war mongers your likely to meet around here and think my questions are reasonable and excuse me If i thought it a little far fetched of you to claim that u delete the whole 1000 slot saves and just had to start from scratch with this extreme challange setup that u've come up with,u've odviously learned the failings of the AI and I'm just tryin to get some answers as to how its workin for ya ??? ON my talk alot and do nothing speech you just gave.....
WASN't it u that piped up on my post between GUNNY in "the thing about Long campaigns" and pointed out your post of earlier about playing differantly then us{extreme long campaign challange} AND ALL this rudeness from u just because I'm tryin to show that the quality and charicteristics #'s DO make a differance????

[Riun T]

sorry that sizing don't work good

[Riun T]

give one of my earlier core shots for Gunny to get the size back

[Riun T]

I'd say comparable battle report except I got a decisive whith only a 1/4 of your casualty score.and no I didn't use only one tactic for this !!

[Riun T]

SORRY wrong save!!

[Riun T]

more core russians

[Riun T]

and I'll probably try your methods anyway so why so hostile??

[Riun T]

and this started as a 3500point force with historical setting on

[Riun T]

notice on the last screen that unit AF1 is still in his 1939 old KV1 and didn't preform threw most of the battles to merit upgrade,

[Riun T]

and all these guys started with #'s like 37experience,53morale and 41 leadership.

[vahauser]

Riun T,

Yes, let's compare your battle result with mine.
Yes let's do that.

Point #1. Your core units all have a troop quality of 90 or 100+ (one of your units has a troop quality of 137!). My core units have a troop quality of 69 (which you said gave me an overwhelming advantage). So answer this question. Why is your troop quality of 90 to 100+ fair, but my troop quality of 69 not fair?
I want an answer to that question.

Point #2. You had 5 ammo carriers and 2 ammo dumps in your battle. I had 1 ammo dump in my battle. You complained that my 1 ammo dump gave me an unfair advantage. Why is your 5 ammo carriers and 2 ammo dumps fair, but my 1 ammo dump not fair?
I want an answer to that question.

Point #3. In 1939 (when my battle was fought), the Polish forces have a troop quality of 55. In 1945 (when your battle was fought), the German forces have a troop quality of 55. My core troop quality in 1939 was 69 against troop quality 55 Polish units. Your core troop quality in 1945 was 90 to 100+ against troop quality 55 German units. Why is my troop quality 69 not fair? Why is your troop quality of 90 to 100+ fair?
I want an answer to that question.

Point #4. The only artillery support I used were some 81mm mortars. I did not use any heavy artillery and I did not use any airstrikes. You said my use of 81mm mortars was unfair against the Poles. You used heavy artillery and Katyusha rockets and airstrikes against the Germans. Why is my use of small 81mm mortars not fair, and why is your use of heavy artillery and rockets and airstrikes fair?
I want an answer to that question.

I want answers to those questions.

[Alby]

Inquiring minds want to know...
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<------Continues to stir pot..
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[KG Erwin]

I'm hearing an old, old song playing right now:

"Anything you can do I can do better,
I can do anything better than you
No you can't
Yes I can"

The lyrics themselves prove absolutely nothing, and neither does any of the contents of this thread.

Does that conclude my lesson in Rhetoric 101?  [:D]

Edit -- I misquoted the lyrics -- correction above.

[vahauser]

Erwin,

Wrong.  Wrong.  And wrong.

This is about accountability.  Riun T accuses me of unfair play and I am calling him on it. 

And until I get some answers to his accusations, then this will remain an issue of accountability.

If you have something useful to add to this dialogue, I am sincerely interested and would like to hear more.

Otherwise, your kibitzing is not appreciated.

(P.S. If you have been paying attention at all to this thread as well as the threads in the main forum, then you would realize that my German Long Campaign Extreme Challenge was designed specifically to resolve, using a standardized and level playing field for all participants, precisely the words to your "lyrics". That was the whole point behind the campaign concept in the first place.)

[Alby]

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

I'm hearing an old, old song playing right now:

"Everything you can do I can do better,
I can do everything better than you
No you can't
Yes I can"

The lyrics themselves prove absolutely nothing, and neither does any of the contents of this thread.

Does that conclude my lesson in Rhetoric 101? [:D]

what song is that??
[&:]
Damn i should know this probably

[Riun T]

WELL i'm sure glad u pointed this out VA,,,,, thats the core from the very last battle of the russian camp, that I was giving for gunny to see. and I'll post the beggining start screen.man u gotta find a vallium son,,,,
I never anywhere said U cheat!!!!?????and my ammo dumps and ammo trucks are either in a dumps case set midof field so I can expend a few vollies and advance to the ammo dump to replenish,and ammo trucks follow along behind the smaller units that wouldn't have such large ammo needs but high rates of fire so need restocking more often on the move. If I've done anything, its been to highlight what I see us doing the same,,,and boy when you say u wanna share STRATS and grace us with all the refinement and diligent testing but can't simplely tell me WHY WHY WHY the HELL u make SOOOO much haggling over the REASON u turn off and turn on what u do pour LA preferances.
AND this whole ANSWER MY QUESTIONS NOW cause I just can't civilyrespond attitude OR I'll ignore or defile clap trap is definately an accountablity issue.
YOU jumped into my post to GUNNY and give us the "feel free to ask any QUESTIONS spout on tryin YOUR" extreme long campaign challange" and then get all piss choked as we DO !!???? WHAT FORE ????

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Alby


what song is that??
[&:]
Damn i should know this probably

This is from the musical "Annie Get Your Gun" -- "Anything You Can Do" was written by Irving Berlin.

There -- now it's relevant --I said "Berlin" and "gun". [:D]

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Alby

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PBEM PBEM PBEM!!!!!!

I second that -- Vahauser and Riun can square off on the battlefield.

We'll let Vahauser have his cavalry and ATRs, and Riun can have whatever he wants -- that's pretty extreme, wouldn't you say? [;)]

[Riun T]

I'll put my money on Vahauser, I far too much a simplton stuck on details with preferences and #'s to give his majisty any challenge.
AND all others please read this post from the start and "the thing about long campaigns" that this trype started in and TELL me WHERE I haven't tried to accomidate VA and WHERE exactly I deserve this? where was I rude??????