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ACM maintains your own minefields every day, but I have never heard of them auto-sweeping enemy mines (although they are capable of sweeping if you put them in a MS TF).ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
It is the ACM which sits in port and does its job - don't forget to refuel them!
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Are you sure this is working? I tested this sometime back and confirmed it was NOT working and I don't recall that Michael ever addressed this. Does anyone have an update note where it was fixed? I've only ever gotten them to work by using them in an active TF ....ORIGINAL: rustysi
I don't think it was ever implemented, but I think the developers wanted the the AMc to sit in port, and self sortie if a minefield was laid at the home port.
This is exactly how to use them. Yes, it works, all you need is to have one in port. It'll activate when needed sweep the minefield and deactivate all behind the scenes.
I think there has to be a DL on the minefield before the AMc will auto-sweep.
ORIGINAL: rustysi
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Are you sure this is working? I tested this sometime back and confirmed it was NOT working and I don't recall that Michael ever addressed this. Does anyone have an update note where it was fixed? I've only ever gotten them to work by using them in an active TF ....ORIGINAL: rustysi
This is exactly how to use them. Yes, it works, all you need is to have one in port. It'll activate when needed sweep the minefield and deactivate all behind the scenes.I think there has to be a DL on the minefield before the AMc will auto-sweep.
Its been a while, but IIRC I hit a mine somewhere in the Solomons, moved an AMc to the base and shortly thereafter the mine symbol disappeared. Could it have been minefield decay? I'm not sure, but the AMc was locally based and took only a day or two to arrive. I further recall that the mine took out a barge, so the movement that resulted in the 'hit' was a regular occurrence.
This 'hit' obviously did reveal the minefield, so maybe BBfanboy's comment is valid.
; Julia Child
But the question is whether, when disbanded in port, they will automatically form themselves into a TF and begin sweeping?ORIGINAL: Alfred
True minesweepers don't need to have a DL on a minefield to sweep.
Alfred
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
But the question is whether, when disbanded in port, they will automatically form themselves into a TF and begin sweeping?ORIGINAL: Alfred
True minesweepers don't need to have a DL on a minefield to sweep.
Alfred
6.6.2 MINE SWEEPING
Valid ships, in a Mine Sweeping or Local Mine Sweeping TF, sweep minefields.
6.6.2.1. CREATION
Valid minesweeping capable ships, in a Mine Sweeping or Local Mine Sweeping TF, sweep a
minefield by having minesweeping orders, for a given a DH (destination hex) location for the
minefield to be swept. If a Mine Warfare TF is clearing mines in a hex that contains coastal
guns, the TF may be fired on.
6.6.2.1.1 MINESWEEPING.
Regular minesweeping TFs may be created both by a player and by the AI. When the AI
creates a Minesweeping TF, it may only include ships of a valid Minesweeping class. Regular
minesweeping TFs sweep 7 hexes; the hex they are in and the six surrounding hexes.
6.6.2.1.2. LOCAL MINESWEEPING.
Local minesweeping TFs may be created both by a player and by the AI. When the AI creates a
Local Minesweeping TF, it may only include ships of a valid ‘Local Minesweeping ‘ class. Local minesweeping TFs sweep only 1 hex, the DH. The AI will position Local Minesweeping TFs to
defend it’s major ports, if ships are available.
6.6.3. MINE WARFARE TASK FORCES TABLE
The Class types that are normally included in Minelaying or Minesweeping Task Forces are
given in the following Table.
(See Table, pages 137-138
A ship belonging to any Class that has Special Mines as part of its weapons complement may
also be included in Mine Laying Task Forces.
; Julia ChildThere are some who swear, and post screenshots to show that AMc's disbanded in port do automatically sweep mines and others who post equally compelling evidence that they do not. That is why I was eagerly hoping Alfred could look at the code and say definitively which is true. It may be that the supposed auto-sweeping is just minefield decay as I do not recall anyone posting a combat report saying the AMc's swept x number of mines.ORIGINAL: rustysi
OK, this is an old topic and has been raised a number of times on the forum. When I get time I'll search for other threads and we'll see was they say.
ORIGINAL: rustysi
OK, this is an old topic and has been raised a number of times on the forum. When I get time I'll search for other threads and we'll see was they say.
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
There are some who swear, and post screenshots to show that AMc's disbanded in port do automatically sweep mines and others who post equally compelling evidence that they do not. That is why I was eagerly hoping Alfred could look at the code and say definitively which is true. It may be that the supposed auto-sweeping is just minefield decay as I do not recall anyone posting a combat report saying the AMc's swept x number of mines.ORIGINAL: rustysi
OK, this is an old topic and has been raised a number of times on the forum. When I get time I'll search for other threads and we'll see was they say.
The AI will use the small minesweepers to form local minesweeper TFs at it's ports. The Minefield tenders are distributed (by the AI) to maintain defensive minefields based on size of port and number of mines. The small patrol types are used to form local defensive ASW patrols.
The player should pretty much do the same. Small patrol types can also be used for escorts in barge, landing craft, and various transport TFs (endurance being a limiting issue).
Another excellent use of small patrol types is routine patrols between two nearby bases. Lunga-Tulagi for instance, or Fukuoka-Fusan, or Batavia-Merak-Oosthaven, or maybe Oak Harbor-Victoria-Vancouver. Use the patrol zone feature with refueling option and you have a "set and forget" local ASW patrol (although you may have to bring in a little fuel once it a while). If you use small ports, bring in an AG and YO or small Tanker and create a temporary patrol base.
Very, very useful little thingys.
There are several different game designations for these. These are what the game terms “Small Craft” and the AI builds its port defense TFs from these.
ACM is listed, although it isn’t used as an ASW platform. It prevents decay of defensive minefields and can lay the odd mine or two itself.
SC - Sub Chaser
PC - Patrol Craft
PB - Patrol Boat
YP - District Patrol Craft
MTB - Motor Torpedo Boat
MGB - Motor Gun Boat
HDML - Harbor Defense Motor Launch
ML - Motor Launch
YMS - Motor Minesweeper
AMc - Coastal Minesweeper
ACM - Minefield Tender
; Julia ChildIf you have an ARD that has a bigger capacity than the displacement of the ship, the ship can go in it and repair float damage.ORIGINAL: ScottyG
I do not see what type of tender repairs battleships nor cruisers???
ORIGINAL: ScottyG
I do not see what type of tender repairs battleships nor cruisers???
; Julia ChildORIGINAL: Yaab
RangerJoe, for the sake of the thread, support forumites tenderly.
; Julia ChildORIGINAL: Yaab
Basically, ARCA and ARBB classes.
; Julia Child
