Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR)

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Turn 21

Overall
A dull turn. Nothing happens except our air raids. Neither side makes any attacks this turn.

Industry
We move 9 Heavy Industry out of Moscow, having ths completed all factory evacuation from Moscow.

Units
We gain 11 divisions and 1 brigade this turn, but they are not placed on rail, as there is no immediate need for units at the front.
Our forces gained a net of 110k men this turn.

Planning Operation Annoyment
Everything is ready, all we need now is the winter.

Worries
Have I misjudged my opponent? It seems to me his reason for moving back is a mixture of muddy terrain and wanting to enter his forts before winter sets in. He is now in a line with 0-3 fort levels with most being level 1. There are two salients he could try for, but only one of them is a slight worry as the northern one is too big for him to capture.



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Turn 22

Overall
So, the Germans attack all along the line as the ground freezed. All 48 attacks are deliberate attacks, and they all succeed. The results are 14 retreats, 27 routs and 7 shattered, resulting at a 3:1 in losses in favour of the Axis after our airforce do their bombing runs.
Nowhere was the front pierced, and our Intel Operations has snapped up a telegram from OKH to Hitler, it reads;
"There are too many Soviet soldiers!".

Industry
With the increased rail capacity we rail out 3 armaments factories and 2 heavy industry from Kramatorskaya. From Maripul we ship 1 armaments factory to the Sibir, and from Voroshilovgrad we send away 3 armaments factories. This leaves Kramatorskaya and Maripul without any factories. This is the way we like it!

Units
We lose 5 divisions and 2 brigades while gaining 17 divisions and 2 brigades, so a net gain of 12 divisions. Since we do not move alot of factories, we are also able to rail alot of troops this turn, so for nwo there are no units left in the east. On several places our front line is now 4 units deep, AND we have units in reserve. The reserve units are set to refit, as these are the guys that we will try to use when the Blizzard sets in.
In available manpower in our units, we have an increase of 100.000 men despite our losses this turn. This is excellent news.

Planning Operation Annoyment
We are now considering using Paratroops as well, to really mess with the Axis rear areas. This is something we will have to think about for some time since we have been told by scholars that our paratroopers are very good at digging in.

Worries
Not much really. Just the fact that the armor/mech troops to the rear of the front around Kursk are still at the rear. Why?

Questions
Have anyone tried to use paratroopers to harass enemy rear areas?
What do people use the political points for? I do not need them to rearrange my front for the time being, and soon I will be back up at 500...

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What do people use the political points for? I do not need them to rearrange my front for the time being, and soon I will be back up at 500...

I supouse you spoke about administrative points. If you don´t need them to organize your army, you can change commanders. And if you´ve good commanders, then you can build new units.

In 42, you´ll need them to buid corps.
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Yes, AP = WITE, PP = WitP. Gotta learn that soon. Thanks.
Well, either I am not building enough troops, or there is something else I am not doing well enough hehe. Hit 500 this turn so build two cav div and an inf div (pressed wrong button, wanted a cav...)

Well maybe I will build more units from now on. Will have to see.

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Turn 23

Overall
This turn follows the same pattern as the last one. The Germans make 40 attacks, 39 deliberate and 1 hasty. He got a total of 39 success in various forms, but only two shatter. The hasty attack was the one that did not succeed.
The Axis is making the most progress in the south, and it seems they might go for Sevastopol next season, it is most likely a tad too far for him to be able to reach it before the blizzard sets in.
The front is not pierced anywhere, and the Axis make only minor territorial gains as the cost of deliberate attacks+enemy ZoC prevents alot of his units to advance after combat.

Industry
We move 5 armaments and 5 vehicle factories out of Stalino this turn, still alot of factories in this area though.

Units
We lose 1 division and 1 brigade while 10 divisions and 14 brigades arrive. We also build 2 Cav divisions and 1 Inf division. This is of course not the intended build. We wanted 3 Cav divisions, but that is the price of "diggin'" music while playing the game it seems. But then again who does NOT wanna rock...
Our frontline strength increased by 105.000 men this turn, these are numbers we apreciate.

Worries
We are once more back to having to weigh the need for troops against the need to evacuate factories.

Questions
Is there any downside to evacuating factories to a few cities only? Or put in other words, can there be too many factories being assembled in a city?



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Things for AP's:
Buy support units- Tank Bns, Ski Bns, RR Const Bdes, Sapper Regts.  Lots of Sappers &  RR Const Bdes.  RR Construction units help units dig in, they're not just for repairing railroads.  Get them built asap so that they can absorb replacements and train up for Winter (you're actually a bit behind schedule for that, so get cracking).
 
Use caution when building more divisions, or you will dilute your replacements and end up with a bunch of understrength, unready divisions.  Also, don't put all of the tank bde's you get on Refit all at once, just a few at a time so that once again you don't dilute your tank replacements into a bunch of poorly equipped units.
 
Check your leaders in the CP- I sort by initiative, since a high initiative leader will also have good stats in at least some other other areas (you don't find high initiative turds).  See who's currently unemployed and highly rated, and put them into your Army & Front HQ's.
 
Check your HQ's in the CP and see if some armies are overloaded and others under-utilitized, and even things out by transferring units.
 
Save some AP's for forming Cavalry Corps- they can be formed in December by stacking 3 cav div's together.  I forget the AP cost, but IIR it's around 15-20 AP per corps.  You can attached up to 3 non-artillery support units directly to the Cav corps- put in tank bns, sappers, and ski bns, and the Cav corps become decent mobile units (better than tank Bdes, or even early Tank Corps, which you can build around March or so by combining 3 tank bde's).
 
One more thing:  I don't think you can do amphib assaults west of Sevastopol until later in the game, so Operation Annoyment might be a non-starter.
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Thank you for the feedback Franklin Nimitz [:)].
Guess I have not built enough RR and Sappers, just about 10 or so, so will build more of those.

I did not try to actually land, but the areas behind the Rumanians was highlighted as an area I could amph move into?

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There is always something the Russians can do with APs. Make it a point to get below 450 every turn (and 375 if you have a Front Command coming soon; you do, I think, the Volkhov Front). Don't waste any.

Best thing to do right now is replace leaders. That takes alot of APs

It's possible you'll have alot in the kitty for some time, but you will spend alot in 42-43 on Corps creation, and unit builds
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I think my main issue is not having played the USSR before, and am terrified of creating too many units of any kind as to run out of stuff of various kind.
Also noted that for the first time, one of my vehicles did not have enough supply to produce anything. That does not sound good.
Will do the next turn later today, so we will see what happens [:)]

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Turn 24

Overall
I think I will call this a good turn. Losses are 2:1 in favor of the Axis, but despite managing 29 attacks this turn, they only managed to advance into ONE hex. This depsite the fact that all 29 attacks were successful. The Axis just do not have the MP to advance after combat, or they just want to force me back, anyway I like it.
We spent alot of time going over our commnaders, and it is enough to make you cry. Due to lack of alternatives we end up with 4-6 (M/I) leaders as front commanders. We need more Zhukovs!!!

Industry
13 armaments factory from Stalino are on their way to the east.

Units
1 division and 2 brigades lost, 5 divisions and 1 brigade arrive. All in all we grow in strength. The ammount of fresh troops to our frontlines however are down to a net increase of 70.000 men. That is down 1/3 from last turn. Not good.

Worries
After REALLY looking at the USSR generals, the big worry now is that Stalin will execute some of our better ones...



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1. Are you air-dropping to those Partisans?

2. He is making a mistake putting FORT ZONES right on the front line. The reason is that any retreat result will cause the Fort Zone to surrender, giving you easy German POWs. Attack them if you can, if not, hope they are still there come Blizzard.
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I thought airdrops to partisans was done automatically? But then again I am desperately low on transport planes as well :(

Will try to see how many I can supply next turn. Thx for the feedback Q-Ball


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I thought airdrops to partisans was done automatically? But then again I am desperately low on transport planes as well :(

Will try to see how many I can supply next turn. Thx for the feedback Q-Ball


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They are automatic, but you have to set it up by the following:

1. Only units in a VVS airbase can do it (not SAD, IAD, BAD, or DBAD, or anything else)

2. Units must be set to "fly night missions" -YES

3. Only Level Bombers and Transports will fly it

You might save your Li-2s for paras or something, and just use Level Bombers. TB-3 and DB-3 and other old types are good for this. So are U2 transports, but the range is short
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Thank you Q-Ball, that is information that is worth loads [&o]

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Turn 25

Overall
A very good turn. Total losses on both sides were 1:1 with a 9k margin in our favour. Our winter-reaction force now consists of units with CV values in the 5-11 range, and alot more units now have CV values of 3-4 while Axis CV is dropping.
It now seems the Axis are concentrating their aerial units to a few airfields. Attacking these sees me lose 40+ planes, so for the moment they are a Costner/De Niro/Eastwood movie.
The Rumanian and Italian airfields are now reported to hold 1-4 planes each.

Industry
We continue to move factories from Stalino, this turn 11 armaments and 3 Heavy Industry are moved, leaving only 2 Heavy Industry in the city.

Units
No units were lost. We gain 10 divisions, 34 brigades and 5 airborne corps. Our frontline "lost" 6 units though, as 9 cavalry divisions was reformed as 3 cavalry corps.
The total strength of our units increased by no less than 313.000 men. VERY nice!
3 partisan units formed, one of these have allready been rebuffed.

Worries
That we botch the upcoming winter offensive is our major concern at the present time.



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Turn 26

Overall
A near perfect turn. Winter is now really here with a freeze rating of 10, and we have a ratio of 2.5:1 in losses in OUR favour this turn. Axis losses are reported at roughly 80.000 men, more will soon follow.
Our high CV units are moving up, and will be ready to attack next turn, that is going to be interesting to watch. It seems we have discovered the Finnish defence line, as we encounter 2 Finnish units at the narrowest part in the north.

Industry
We move the remaining two heavy industries from Stalino, so that city is now empty. The city of Makeevka is also empty after we move 3 armaments and 3 heavy industry. From Gorlovka we managed to move out 3 armamanets factories, leaving 3 heavy industries.

Units
No units lost per ce, but 6 cavalry divisions form 2 cavalry corps, so a net loss of 4 units from those actions. We also recieve 11 divisions and 19 brigades this turn, always nice with new toys. A net increase of 173.000 men in our units this turn. Really gotta read up on what influences this as this number has been all over the place the last three turns.

Operation Annoyment
The Operation is launched. 3 naval brigades are now well behind the Rumanian front lines. Going to be interesting to see what we can achieve here.

Worries
Although Axis recon flights have decreased in numbers, I fear that they might spot the reinforced areas of the front close to Moscow, allowing the Axis to fall back before we are able to launch our pincer attack here.



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That line looks very bad for him. Your units appear to be in a carpet; I would stack everyone right at the front line, and just tee off on the nearest German unit. Nothing too subtle, but you shouldn't be in a defensive posture anywhere.

Longer Lines are BAD for the Germans. He probably has no reserves. You are going to have a good winter.

A couple other items:

1. Try and get 4 hexes occupied against an infantry unit; if it's a straight line, bring up some guys to knock back the unit on either side of the one you want to trap. Make sure you DON'T use at least one Rifle unit that started the turn there, because a unit can always move one hex regardless. Once the unit is gone to either side, move that Rifle Unit that hasn't moved to each side.

Now, that infantry unit is caught in a vice. In most cases, it can only move 1 hex back. If you are collapsing the flanks on either side, eventually you will move faster than that, and that unit will be toast. Eventually.

2. In that shot south of the Dnepr, those Italians look especially inviting. They should fold like a wet noodle. Italian units are probably the worst ones on the Axis side, because Italian Infantry Divisions have a whopping 8 AT guns. Not to mention they only have like 7500 guys.

3. Merge ALL of your cav divisions into Corps. You shouldn't have any Cav Divs, other than a couple

4. MOST IMPORTANT: Set all your front-line divisions to REFIT. Make sure they get all your replacements. You don't want all your UNREADY units collecting replacements. You dont' have enough to make every unit READY, so you have to funnel replacements into some units and keep them up to strength. The worst thing you can do is spread your replacements all over; eventually, you'll just have 300 UNREADY units. They can't attack.

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That line looks very bad for him. Your units appear to be in a carpet; I would stack everyone right at the front line, and just tee off on the nearest German unit. Nothing too subtle, but you shouldn't be in a defensive posture anywhere.

What Q-Ball said. My ideal blizzard: the Soviet hordes fight each other -stacked in the frontline next to the vict... er the Germans- to see who's going to smash the Germans the first ones! "I saw him first, he's mine. You touch him and you're dead!"

This is not for accountable's souls: infantry TOE reduced to x + Pi power 3 - manpower production * supplies... [:D] This is about smashing the enemy now that you can. Throw overboard the accountable and unleash the bears.
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Thank you all for the feedback.

Yes, I have a layer of units, remember however that the USSR have alot of brigades. I kinda figured that a brigade is not a very good offensive unit, so I did not intend to use them in the offense. Also, another reason for the layer is that almost every single hex with a unit in it has a fort level of 1-3, so thought that was a good idea for the summer, to have those forts still there?

Refit. Yes, I have switched my intended offensive divisions to refit, but it seems I should do so with alot more then. Will do.

Cav divisions. Yes, I intend to make them all into corps, but at the same time I do not want to create huge gaps in my front from pulling back cav divisions before I can replace them with fresh units from the rear.

Italians. Yes, I have them in mind, espesially considering that their HQ is some 8-10 hexes away from the units (unless they can be transferred into a German HQ?)

About Q-Ball's #1 tip. Yes, I saw that was dont to you in your opponents and your AAR, so I will keep that in mind. However does this also imply that at this stage my ragtag army is incapable of forming proper pockets? I kind of expect this to be true due to the low morale which slows them down.

But again good people, keep the name of the AAR in mind [;)]

And once more. Thank you all for your feedback, it is truely apreciated [&o]

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