Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
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RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
I've started a GC as GHC against Bozo.
He has a smart defense and amazing CV's!. I think I will do an even worse 1941 campaign than the one against Schascha.
During the last month I also began 3 games as SHC and my opponents gave up between turn 5 and 15. I think they were disappointed with their performance.
As you said, the morale engine is broken and except against new players the GHC has zero chance to achieve a correct 1941 campaign.
1.06.27 was more fun (even with the morale bug for the germans)
I hope this will be corrected soon
He has a smart defense and amazing CV's!. I think I will do an even worse 1941 campaign than the one against Schascha.
During the last month I also began 3 games as SHC and my opponents gave up between turn 5 and 15. I think they were disappointed with their performance.
As you said, the morale engine is broken and except against new players the GHC has zero chance to achieve a correct 1941 campaign.
1.06.27 was more fun (even with the morale bug for the germans)
I hope this will be corrected soon
GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Stef please post your remarks about morale here
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the more people voicing concern the more chance they may actually fix it.
I agree.
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the more people voicing concern the more chance they may actually fix it.
1.06.27 was more fun (even with the morale bug for the germans)
I agree.
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 109, 15 July 1943
3 types of actions led by Schascha:
1) Killing my generals with air bombing.
Another KIA

You can note the quality of the remplacement sent by OKH

No comment
2) Searching the weak point

Held due to the reserve cimmitment
3) Bombing my units with rockets

I can afford such llosses....
The calm before the storm?
3 types of actions led by Schascha:
1) Killing my generals with air bombing.
Another KIA

You can note the quality of the remplacement sent by OKH

No comment
2) Searching the weak point

Held due to the reserve cimmitment
3) Bombing my units with rockets

I can afford such llosses....
The calm before the storm?
GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 110, 22 July 1943
Not much ground actions. Just an overview below of the air war. A good turn for me.

Not much ground actions. Just an overview below of the air war. A good turn for me.

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
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RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
A ratio of 13:1. Not bad. He can't tolerate losses like that for very long. Is he making any progress on the ground?
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 111, 29 July 1943
Air War, a bad turn, I have less than 2900 aircraft available

Focus on the southern part of the front. I lost 2 hexes with level 3 entrenchment, final odds were 2.3/1 and 2.4/1. Note that Schascha engaged 362K men in this attack!!!

Air War, a bad turn, I have less than 2900 aircraft available

Focus on the southern part of the front. I lost 2 hexes with level 3 entrenchment, final odds were 2.3/1 and 2.4/1. Note that Schascha engaged 362K men in this attack!!!

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Schascha let some of his rifle corps in open land without entrenchement (lack of MP I presume)
I decide to "liberate" these hexes
Act 1

Final odd is 2/1, just enough and I used more than 1200 AFV!
Act 2

Easy win 6.1/1 with only 1100 AFV used..
GHC 2 SHC 0
But more important, Schascha won't feel free to advance Rifle Corps in open terrain and some of his corps lost morale.
I decide to "liberate" these hexes
Act 1

Final odd is 2/1, just enough and I used more than 1200 AFV!
Act 2

Easy win 6.1/1 with only 1100 AFV used..
GHC 2 SHC 0
But more important, Schascha won't feel free to advance Rifle Corps in open terrain and some of his corps lost morale.
GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 112, 5 August 1943
Air war is still intensive: aircraft losses GHC 73 , SHC 273
Schascha, like the dwarves of Middle Earth, has decided to dig my fortified line. His target is obviously west of Cherkassy

Bad news, this time the odd is 3.2/1. He his getting better results...
As usual, I counterattack the units unable to return to the SHC lines.

And I immediatly create some forts behind the hex lost.
Air war is still intensive: aircraft losses GHC 73 , SHC 273
Schascha, like the dwarves of Middle Earth, has decided to dig my fortified line. His target is obviously west of Cherkassy

Bad news, this time the odd is 3.2/1. He his getting better results...
As usual, I counterattack the units unable to return to the SHC lines.

And I immediatly create some forts behind the hex lost.
GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 113, 12 august 1943
Bad news this turn...
Another KIA, Walter Model, and I can't accuse Schascha, he didn't bomb his HQ... Perhaps a bad bretzel? I have no more leader with 8 or more as mech...

The dwarves are digging, it becomes serious., I didn't thought he could make 2 consécutives attacks. Of course I punished his units left behind, but it becomes serious.

And a view of the evolution of our OOB, I'm still strong but the Lufwaffe is declining very fast.

Bad news this turn...
Another KIA, Walter Model, and I can't accuse Schascha, he didn't bomb his HQ... Perhaps a bad bretzel? I have no more leader with 8 or more as mech...

The dwarves are digging, it becomes serious., I didn't thought he could make 2 consécutives attacks. Of course I punished his units left behind, but it becomes serious.

And a view of the evolution of our OOB, I'm still strong but the Lufwaffe is declining very fast.

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 114, 19 august 1943
Same news...
Franz Halder has been executed by e-Hitler. Am I cursed?
Air war 100/412 not a good result. 100 losses are too much for me.

Schascha took another hex and I counterattacked. I also choose to give 2 other hexes exposed on 3 sides.

Same news...
Franz Halder has been executed by e-Hitler. Am I cursed?
Air war 100/412 not a good result. 100 losses are too much for me.

Schascha took another hex and I counterattacked. I also choose to give 2 other hexes exposed on 3 sides.

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
ORIGINAL: STEF78
I've started a GC as GHC against Bozo.
He has a smart defense and amazing CV's!. I think I will do an even worse 1941 campaign than the one against Schascha.
During the last month I also began 3 games as SHC and my opponents gave up between turn 5 and 15. I think they were disappointed with their performance.
As you said, the morale engine is broken and except against new players the GHC has zero chance to achieve a correct 1941 campaign.
1.06.27 was more fun (even with the morale bug for the germans)
I hope this will be corrected soon
The Middle Earth Blizzard is why in most cases, it crushes GHC morale which never recovers.
You can simply run back to Germany before blizzard and hold out longer then if you stuck around during blizzard. Morale is the most important stat in game, it trumps arm/manpower Pts, KIA, land taken, ect ect.
I know many look down on this tactic, but it shows a MAJOR design flaw in the game.
Beta Tester WitW & WitE
RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
I wrote this post before the lastest patches. it seems to me now that the morale system is ok.ORIGINAL: Pelton
ORIGINAL: STEF78
I've started a GC as GHC against Bozo.
He has a smart defense and amazing CV's!. I think I will do an even worse 1941 campaign than the one against Schascha.
During the last month I also began 3 games as SHC and my opponents gave up between turn 5 and 15. I think they were disappointed with their performance.
As you said, the morale engine is broken and except against new players the GHC has zero chance to achieve a correct 1941 campaign.
1.06.27 was more fun (even with the morale bug for the germans)
I hope this will be corrected soon
The Middle Earth Blizzard is why in most cases, it crushes GHC morale which never recovers.
You can simply run back to Germany before blizzard and hold out longer then if you stuck around during blizzard. Morale is the most important stat in game, it trumps arm/manpower Pts, KIA, land taken, ect ect.
I know many look down on this tactic, but it shows a MAJOR design flaw in the game.
GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 115, 26 august 1943
No general killed, executed... only Hoepner (political 1) dismissed but still in fife[:)] and he is mech 7 inf 7. I need him.
Air losses GHC 52 SHC 270, just enough...
Same ground battles. I loose one hex (odd 2.5/1) and some AFV 1345!! engaged by Schascha. I score some rout against the rifle div left behind.

No general killed, executed... only Hoepner (political 1) dismissed but still in fife[:)] and he is mech 7 inf 7. I need him.
Air losses GHC 52 SHC 270, just enough...
Same ground battles. I loose one hex (odd 2.5/1) and some AFV 1345!! engaged by Schascha. I score some rout against the rifle div left behind.

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
- Bozo_the_Clown
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RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Is he only attacking one hex per turn?
RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
ORIGINAL: Bozo_the_Clown
Is he only attacking one hex per turn?
First of all, Schascha is a very good chessplayer. Nothing is done by chance.
He also bombs hexes with aircraft and arty but he is very accurate in his attacks and prefers gaining one hex per turn than risking "helds". Last months, he also suffered a lot of helds due to the reserve activation system.
Maybe he is creating a bulk of elite rifle corps he will use more massively later. SHC national morale grows, GHC will decline.
My main concern in this game isn't ground, I could give more hexes but aircraft, Lufwaffe is disapearing turn after turn...
GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 116, 3 september 1943
Another bad turn for the Luftwaffe, losses GHC 97 SHC 386
In order to hold ground, Schascha created a carpet of "sacrified" rifle inf in order to protect his 3 strong rifle corps left behind.

I did 6 retreat and 4 rout against his divs but didn't find me strong enough to defeat his 3 rifle corps stack (last time, I had to engage more than 1200 AFV to defeat 3 corps).
For his main atack, Schascha used 1400AFV...

Another bad turn for the Luftwaffe, losses GHC 97 SHC 386
In order to hold ground, Schascha created a carpet of "sacrified" rifle inf in order to protect his 3 strong rifle corps left behind.

I did 6 retreat and 4 rout against his divs but didn't find me strong enough to defeat his 3 rifle corps stack (last time, I had to engage more than 1200 AFV to defeat 3 corps).
For his main atack, Schascha used 1400AFV...

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 117 and 118
Forgot the screens
Schascha opens a new axe of attack near Minsk and continue to grind west of Cherkassy
Forgot the screens
Schascha opens a new axe of attack near Minsk and continue to grind west of Cherkassy
GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
RE: Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 119, 23 september 1943
Air war still intense

A view near Minsk, I loose 2 hexes

And Cherkassy, I loose 2 hexes and give 2 others overexposed

And finally the OOB, Luftwaffe is under 2700

Air war still intense

A view near Minsk, I loose 2 hexes

And Cherkassy, I loose 2 hexes and give 2 others overexposed

And finally the OOB, Luftwaffe is under 2700

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 120, 30 September 1943
Good news, I've got a new General with high ratings: Von Manteuffel
Air war, the rythm of losses is still too high but I will receive some fighter squadrons in the next weeks.

On the ground Schascha was able to open a 3rd axe of attack north of Minsk. One of my counter attacks in front ok Minsk failed

In Ukraine, he insists South of Kiev. I don't remind when he got a held in an attack....

Good news, I've got a new General with high ratings: Von Manteuffel
Air war, the rythm of losses is still too high but I will receive some fighter squadrons in the next weeks.

On the ground Schascha was able to open a 3rd axe of attack north of Minsk. One of my counter attacks in front ok Minsk failed

In Ukraine, he insists South of Kiev. I don't remind when he got a held in an attack....

GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4
Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome
Turn 121, 7 october 1943
Another good leader arrives Ferdinand Schorner[:)]. I don't know why but I was about writing Franz Ferdinand (from Scotland not Austria)
Air losses GHC 88 SHC 469.
On the ground, some typical attacks from Schscha around Minsk

And the view of the main zone of fights during the summer. I retreated 1 to 3 hexes inthe sector of Minsk 3 to 5 hexes around Cherkassy. It could have been worse.


Another good leader arrives Ferdinand Schorner[:)]. I don't know why but I was about writing Franz Ferdinand (from Scotland not Austria)
Air losses GHC 88 SHC 469.
On the ground, some typical attacks from Schscha around Minsk

And the view of the main zone of fights during the summer. I retreated 1 to 3 hexes inthe sector of Minsk 3 to 5 hexes around Cherkassy. It could have been worse.


GHC 9-0-3
SHC 10-0-4
SHC 10-0-4



