Moderator: Shannon V. OKeets
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You called me politically correct for my correct use of grammar when I used "he/she" and "him/her".
If you haven't read the United States Marine Corps is now training women for combat assignments.
So as far as marketing goes there are a lot more women in the world than there are Germans.
ORIGINAL: Easo79ORIGINAL: Extraneous
You called me politically correct for my correct use of grammar when I used "he/she" and "him/her".
If you haven't read the United States Marine Corps is now training women for combat assignments.
So as far as marketing goes there are a lot more women in the world than there are Germans.
Grammar correction aside, I prefer being called "he" than reading hundreds of pages of ... "he/she defeated him/her"...(maybe... that little hidden tomboy creeping inside me?.....[:'(])
ORIGINAL: Greyshaft
ORIGINAL: Easo79ORIGINAL: Extraneous
You called me politically correct for my correct use of grammar when I used "he/she" and "him/her".
If you haven't read the United States Marine Corps is now training women for combat assignments.
So as far as marketing goes there are a lot more women in the world than there are Germans.
Grammar correction aside, I prefer being called "he" than reading hundreds of pages of ... "he/she defeated him/her"...(maybe... that little hidden tomboy creeping inside me?.....[:'(])
I prefer to use "they" instead of "he/she" I know that it refers to plural but once you aggregate the "he/she" then it becomes plural very quickly.
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Easo79, I see you're from Mallorca, Illes Balears that explains your mention of Catalan.
Since you mention Spanish I assume you are referring to Castilian Spanish.
Here we have a dialect we call Mexican Spanish because of the mixture of Tex/Mex slang with Spanish.
Do you know if "He/She" is also different in Mexican Spanish, Castilian Spanish, and Catalan (Catalonian or Northeastern Spanish)?
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Catalan Language (see General Overview)
4,000,000 mother tongue speakers in Spain (1994 La Generalitat de Catalunya);
260,000 in France;
31,000 in Andorra (1990);
40,000 in USA (1961);
22,000 in Alghero.
The number of Spanish loanwords in spoken Catalan is over 2,000. Scholar Ivan Tubau has even spoken of a “Mestizo Catalan” as different from the pure, theoretical Catalan of the Institut d’Estudis Catalans. Indeed, many of those today claiming to be able to speak Catalan would be better described as speakers of Spanish structures with part-Catalan, part-Spanish words, with a few phonetic and morphological adaptations that make them sound non-Spanish (though not quite genuinely Catalan).
, but now I am more used to the realities of market economy..... [&:]
ORIGINAL: Easo79
LOL..if the author of that web page thinks that Ivan Tubau is a reliable scholar [X(] he is in real need of some hard research in Catalan philology. Besides, I would not say that the use of words such as ...navy, rice, very important, shop, supper, air, trench, grain, gentle, dinner... makes the English lenguage a Mestizo variety of French.....
Being Mallorca a 13th Century conquest (and an isolated island) we still retain some archaic and "ultra-pure" forms of the Catalan language... but as a minorized language we have some problems (perhaps as Welsh in UK?). These days the movie "Elysium" is exhibited here. I can see it in English (with Spanish subtitles), translated into Spanish or...translated into German!!!...but there is no way to see it in my own language...When I was 18 that kind of things pissed me off beyond comprehension
No hard feelings towards Spanish, though...when in NYC, and once I learnt that my English was not as good as it should be, Spanish came in handy to deal with almost everyone at the Hotel or Information Points....[&o]
With a few Scandinavian words thrown into the mix. [:D]ORIGINAL: composer99
Come now, Easo79, everyone knows that English is at its pure core a Germanic tongue that has been corrupted by the Latinate-French influence of the Normans.
[;)]
[:D]
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ORIGINAL: Easo79
LOL..if the author of that web page thinks that Ivan Tubau is a reliable scholar [X(] he is in real need of some hard research in Catalan philology. Besides, I would not say that the use of words such as ...navy, rice, very important, shop, supper, air, trench, grain, gentle, dinner... makes the English lenguage a Mestizo variety of French.....
Being Mallorca a 13th Century conquest (and an isolated island) we still retain some archaic and "ultra-pure" forms of the Catalan language... but as a minorized language we have some problems (perhaps as Welsh in UK?). These days the movie "Elysium" is exhibited here. I can see it in English (with Spanish subtitles), translated into Spanish or...translated into German!!!...but there is no way to see it in my own language...When I was 18 that kind of things pissed me off beyond comprehension
No hard feelings towards Spanish, though...when in NYC, and once I learnt that my English was not as good as it should be, Spanish came in handy to deal with almost everyone at the Hotel or Information Points....[&o]
I would think Iván Tubau (a university professor) would be considered a reliable scholar. Especially since he won an award for Catalan poetry in 1991. Or did you just look him up on wikipedia?
Don't forget that Franco suppressed Catalan.
English is a polyglot language.
ORIGINAL: Joseignacio
My native language is Castilian (Spanish from Spain) as it is usually named by some Spanish, as an alternative form of designating Español language. Some others don't accept the term Español because of political reasons, since Español would imply belonging to Spain (España), whence some peoples would like to separate.
As far as I know, and I am not a linguist, it's generally accepted here in Spain, even for those more anti-catalonian, provided that they have a certain cultural level, that catalonian language is a separate and distinct language proceeding equally and independently from Latin.
The fact that The Franks grew and conquered what today in France at the expense of the Burgundians, Auvernians, Provenzals (North Catalonians)and Aquitanians to mention some peoples, and the castilians absorbed Aragon kingdom (Catalonia in all but the name), Galicia, Leon and the muslim kingdoms of Spain both becoming the state Spain is today, doesn't mean that the Catalonian language, once spoken as widely as Castilian Spanish, French or Portuguese does not have it's own direct heritage from Latin, same as Portuguese, French or Castilian Spanish.
However, I still keep a tiny doubt about this direct heritage, since obvious dialects of Castilian, like Andalusian or Galician, are said to be languages too, and IMO they aren't, they are said so for political convenience,to keep some people satisfied and look like no language/dialect is privileged.
BTW: Easo, I have mixed (basque) blood, and I am from Bilbao, so Castilian or Basque could have been my native languages. It happens it's Castilian because of Franco's forbidding of Basque. But it was a daring guess of you. [:D] [:-]
ORIGINAL: Orm
With a few Scandinavian words thrown into the mix. [:D]ORIGINAL: composer99
Come now, Easo79, everyone knows that English is at its pure core a Germanic tongue that has been corrupted by the Latinate-French influence of the Normans.
[;)]
[:D]
ORIGINAL: Easo79
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Hey!! I have mixed basque blood too!. Look at my name...and guess where the grandmother of my mother came from![8|]
