Marshall vs Russian Heel FOG OF WAR

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Interesting point about Vlad.

I had always assumed that it would be sheer madness for Japan to bring Russia into the war.

Then I saw an AAR by Denishe where is opponent did so and the Japanese steamrolled over the Russians.

I presumed it must have been because Denishe never did anything to build them up.

So, just to establish a good practice, I do so even in games against the AI where I know they won't be entering before the historical date.

I set every last Soviet base with engineers present to build forts. I set all LCU to upgrade and take replacements and I upgrade their planes as new frames become available.

I believe all Allied players should develop the good habit of fortifying the SU against an early Japanese adventure.

rader also invaded Russia. His AAR is called 'Taming the Bear' I think. He did very well, but don't get all of it and didn't get AV I don't think. He hadn't even taken all of China before going there!

It's also important to start pilot training in Russia immediately. They have few airframe replacements early, so if Japan god in you want to have decent pilots, but I can't see the Japanese really steamrolling a prepared Russian side. I also start forts and bases building, replacements on, and the territory is very good for defense. They have subs with working TT and a few combat ships, plus a lot of air groups. Japan would almost have to give up on the rest of the map to do well there and that would mean no more oil. Not worth it.

[Marshall]

my opponent surrendered, as my way to Japan was wide open, it would have been a one sided war from now on.
Joha Baru was about to fall, he lost a complete army at NZL, carriers are damaged so badly he cant get a proper task force up and running for months.

I most command him fro taking the all out gamble to go for NZL, its all or nothing, and he got very close

So cheers to the Russian Heel and I am now preparing to take control over the Empire to see if I can survive until 44

I will make a new AAR

I do have a few questions:

Can japan capture off map bases? and can I skip Phil, in order to focus on Singers and DEI first, then come back for Phil (much easier then I think, and DEI under control, I don't have a rush time table anymore)
and last but not least,
PH strike or Manila?

[FeurerKrieg]

Be careful about skipping he PI entirely. I usually send just a division or two, with lots and lots of artillery with a couple paradrops on turn one. Then you can get them pushed back to Clark or Manila (depending on Allied moves) and your artillery can just slowly kill them off.

But yes, you can skip, knock out Singers and then come back. When it isn't under threat though, I think it can create an opportunity for the Allies to bring in some B-17's and create issues for you. My 2 cents anyway.

Manila strike wins in my book. Submarines are more dangerous than battleships.

[FeurerKrieg]

Oh, and I meant to say - Congrats on your win!

[HansBolter]

Congrats as well.

Off map bases can't be captured.

If you bypass PI altogether you risk the Americans pushing reinforcements and supply through to it and leave an unsinkable aircraft carrier in your rear.

I agree with Feurer Krieg that at minimum you should commit enough to push the Americans into a tight corner, remove their major naval bases and airfields from their control.

Then after other strategic necessities are dealt with you can follow up with enough to crush Bataan.

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ORIGINAL: Marshall

I do have a few questions:

Can japan capture off map bases?

I'm not sure atone has ever tried. I do think this is against the concept of the game, hence the term 'off-map,' so if anyone ever did try and accomplish that I'm not sure that game would continue. I'd say if Japan took an off-map base the invasion package would have to be phenomenal. Like 4-5 full divisions, a few new capital ships, a bunch of devices in pools, the best airframes available in numbers, and maybe early Russian activation. Something beyond nasty.

If Japan ever took the Canal in a surprise invasion a wall of material would have hit as soon as possible. But since you can't run search from those bases it seems a tad bit unfair if it is indeed possible. It wouldn't exactly have been a surprise if a Japanese Armada sailed to Cape Town. [:D]

[Marshall]

I am setting up my new game as japan now
I will create a new AAR when the first turn is done, I need tomorrow to finish the setup
I think you would like the opening moves I promise a spectacular one
house rules:
no historical first turn,
PDU - on
+/- 15 days,
auto sub ops off,
unit withdraws off
Dec 7 Surprise - on

And the usual stuff about 4E anti ship missions, night bombing, base hex invasions and sub invasions, no carrier hunting on first turn, and withdrawal on

[Marshall]

I opened a new AAR for the tables turned game
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its called Marshall vs Russian heel tables turned
I am implementing the Japanese oil and resource trail over land.
and resizing air units to implement a 3 base defense at Guadalcanal, one that can survive and strike back at a strike from 2 allied carrier forces, up to end 43.

3 bases each with 30 to 50 kate, and 30 to 50 zeros on them
all in 3 hexes from each other, and supported from more distant base with betty torpedo bombers

I am sure the allied force will sail into that zone one day if he doesn't see a movement to Fiji
curiosity always gets the better of mankind
especially in an area of such interest for the allies

so I hop you will join the AAR, I have some strategically decisions to make on Burma, India and defense positions