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Hi FroBodine. These are independent developers working on behalf of Matrix/Slitherine. Field of Glory - Empires(AGEOD) and Fantasy General 2(Owned by Gravity) while the team working on "The Bloody first" is Matrix games. Not sure if they would all have the same PR/Marketing team but I would highly doubt it. In any case I hope we are provided with some news on this soon as we have all been very patient waiting for this one[:D]
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I have to agree with Fro. It's frankly saddening how little marketing this game has had. I also have no idea what went so wrong with the development that it's taken this long. I would have loved to had a game with the old engine two or three years ago to fill the void.
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I go to resume it for you. At 2014 or before, the TBF was started by a small team to be made in Unity3D. Time later, they discovered how the game made in Unity3D was very very very bad for modding and they wanted release a game which public could edit at 100%, in Unity3D, you can not edit the most of the stuff, it is a true fact. Just some textures and code was insuficient.I also have no idea what went so wrong with the development that it's taken this long.
So, they took the stuff from Unity3D and they made it in the engine from Slitherine named Archon. It can be edited at 100%.
I suppose how Archon how in addition Archon does not require to pay by to use the engine. It gives better profits.
The move to the Archon game took more time that they thought. It is a game created by a small team, we do not speak from the large teams composed by 100 workers, probably here there are not more of 6 persons or only one.
At the end, the main problem was be so perfect to release a game as the true believers we wanted.[;)]
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ORIGINAL: Nomada_Firefox
So, they took the stuff from Unity3D and they made it in the engine from Slitherine named Archon. It can be edited at 100%.
Now that is the kind of news i like to hear, that is a real good move by the devs. Having the game moddable is amongst the best thing you can do for your game imo.
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I fully appreciate the idea of the fully moddable game, but it still seems that Matrix/Slitherine haven't provided much support, at the very least on the front of marketing and exposure.
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I fully appreciate the idea of the fully moddable game, but it still seems that Matrix/Slitherine haven't provided much support, at the very least on the front of marketing and exposure.
I can not agree with this, I have received always a lot of support with mods from Slitherine/Matrix. About marketing. They have showed the early version from the game. There are a lot of information and they will show more when they have more finished. They do not go to show you pure theater.haven't provided much support, at the very least on the front of marketing and exposure.
What do you want? them showing you each unit as I make with my mods? being realistic, it takes time, money and they have not time for this.
Anyway, the game is under testing in the beta.
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I would like to see a little bit of gameplay. Maybe a small demonstration of how some old mechanics work in the new engine. I'm really not asking for a whole lot here.
Also, maybe some news on how the beta tests are going. They announced that a couple months ago, and it's been radio silence ever since. I also would like a projected schedule. Doesn't have to be concrete, but if you have beta tests going on then I would like to think they are at least getting close to done.
Also, maybe some news on how the beta tests are going. They announced that a couple months ago, and it's been radio silence ever since. I also would like a projected schedule. Doesn't have to be concrete, but if you have beta tests going on then I would like to think they are at least getting close to done.
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Unfortunately you must wait to see a demostration or info about how the Beta goes. Your unique alternative is if you are accepted in the Beta.
But I see as a good point do not see anybody leaving screaming the beta.[:'(]
Of course, perhaps Pips or other developer can tell us about it. But being realistic, I can wait, I have been waiting 5 years for the release and now I can wait more without problems.[;)]
But I see as a good point do not see anybody leaving screaming the beta.[:'(]
Of course, perhaps Pips or other developer can tell us about it. But being realistic, I can wait, I have been waiting 5 years for the release and now I can wait more without problems.[;)]
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Yeah, fair enough. I just love these games, and I am of course looking forward to this one. I just hope they don't drop the series after this game. With all the issues they've had I could imagine dropping the series has come up.
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With a new Engine i doubt it, this is a new beginning this open the door to new series of games and remakes in the new engine to continue the fun, so i would not worry about that. I think the reason for the secretary and time delay is because they want to get this one right bc it is the launching pad to a whole new window of opportunity.
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2. Warplan
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I am sure how they will continue working in the series after the TBF and this game can be modded at 100% probably.ORIGINAL: shadepiece
Yeah, fair enough. I just love these games, and I am of course looking forward to this one. I just hope they don't drop the series after this game. With all the issues they've had I could imagine dropping the series has come up.
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What do you want? them showing you each unit as I make with my mods? being realistic, it takes time, money and they have not time for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxaj5Yk ... e=youtu.be
That's a simple, fresh example, just from Slitherine and for a game which has just been announced.
It doesn't take money or a lot of time, the problem is different: in this case there's a game
which their devs are not "unhappy" or "afraid" to show ...
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ORIGINAL: Nomada_Firefox
What do you want? them showing you each unit as I make with my mods? being realistic, it takes time, money and they have not time for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxaj5Yk ... e=youtu.be
That's a simple, fresh example, just from Slitherine and for a game which has just been announced.
It doesn't take money or a lot of time, the problem is different: in this case there's a game
which their devs are not "unhappy" or "afraid" to show ...
Your comparation is absurb because Fantasy General II has been announced few time ago, before you had not idea about if anybody were developing this. In the other way, Bloody First has been announced as a game in developing at 2014 or before.That's a simple, fresh example, just from Slitherine and for a game which has just been announced.
It doesn't take money or a lot of time, the problem is different: in this case there's a game
which their devs are not "unhappy" or "afraid" to show ...
At the same time, there are lot more of information showed from TBF than Fantasy General II https://www.facebook.com/CloseCombatofficial/
Just you are ignoring the true.........
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No offence, but I find absurd your defense: we are talking about marketing policy and my example is perfect from the opposite (and imho) right point of view: we have received much more info and "stuff" (screenshots, video)from a game which has been just announced than from a game announced 5 years ago... And the Fantasy General 2 is just an example, I could take much more coming from Matrix/Slitherine like Order Of Battle, Field of Glory 2, Decisive Campaigns series and much more for which a decent pre-release support "simply happened"...
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No offence, but I find absurd your defense: we are talking about marketing policy and my example is perfect from the opposite (and imho) right point of view: we have received much more info and "stuff" (screenshots, video)from a game which has been just announced than from a game announced 5 years ago... And the Fantasy General 2 is just an example, I could take much more coming from Matrix/Slitherine like Order Of Battle, Field of Glory 2, Decisive Campaigns series and much more for which a decent pre-release support "simply happened"...
Are you saying us how Field of Glory 2, a new announced game has more showed? you have not seen everything from TBF.........because there are a lot of more... And the Fantasy General 2 is just an example, I could take much more coming from Matrix/Slitherine like Order Of Battle, Field of Glory 2, Decisive Campaigns series and much more for which a decent pre-release support "simply happened"...
And other games, never, they were announced so many years before......what was showed from the next Panzer General the past year? nothing, just a small video. One year ago from TBF, we have seen several videos and reviews at different websites.
Anyway, when I read things as..........
I do not wait anything positive coming from you, even when the game be released.which their devs are not "unhappy" or "afraid" to show ...
At the same time, we have both at different position, I do not need to see more and you do not go to be positive in a million of years........
If the game is released at four years, I go to be happy by equal.

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Ok just a different point of view which I respect. Just let me point out one last thing: I'm a great of the Close Combat series and I like the few things I've seen of TBF so far . I don't have any prejudice but I'm always a bit skeptical when games took so much time and devs are so "shy" to release info. Anyway I'm looking for this game and I will be very happy to see my scepticism refuted by the facts [;)]
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This is the point where you exactly are accepting the other games as better handle by the developers. Why? because they were showed to the public after years of developing. This is the big difference with TBF, we know about TBF years ago. Other games are not showed too early.but I'm always a bit skeptical when games took so much time and devs are so "shy" to release info. Anyway I'm looking for this game and I will be very happy to see my scepticism refuted by the facts
Following your facts, you should be so skeptical with the other games because they were hidden and nobody told you about their develop.

And again, so far, in quantity, we have seen more from the developers from TBF than from Fantasy General 2. The unique difference is the amount of time between any publish.
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Maybe I'm slow, but: is there a beta running? Open or closed? I was just looking around and found a link to register for a CC:TBF beta, but it said Windows 8 so I kind of assumed it wasn't relevant any more...
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There is a closed beta running atm.ORIGINAL: Whitewash
Maybe I'm slow, but: is there a beta running? Open or closed? I was just looking around and found a link to register for a CC:TBF beta, but it said Windows 8 so I kind of assumed it wasn't relevant any more...
Beta Tester:
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2. Warplan
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Thanks! Do we know how long it's running and if they are still adding people to it? Do we know if there will be an open beta?