Worst modern war film of all time

[Yaab]

Do you know the joke about historical accuracy in movies? Willis, Cage and Affleck walk onto a film stage...

[rockmedic109]

ORIGINAL: Yaab

Do you know the joke about historical accuracy in movies? Willis, Cage and Affleck walk onto a film stage...

You could have ended your second sentence after the fourth word.

[rustysi]

Cage appears in any old sh it now as long as he gets paid.

Wind Talkers is a good follow up or runner up for 'worst modern war film of all time'. Again starring Nicholas Cage. A pattern?

Poor life choices, and IRS trouble. Career over, now just a hack.

[rustysi]

Wind Talkers is a good follow up or runner up for 'worst modern war film of all time'. Again starring Nicholas Cage. A pattern?

The only positive I can say for this movie is that it did shine some light on a largely ignored event of WWII.

[rustysi]

Kelly's Heroes: Hippies from the '60s step back in time, giving World War II a groovy vibe

Now, now, play nice.[:D]

[rustysi]

1. Kelly's Heroes: Hippies from the '60s step back in time, giving World War II a groovy vibe that makes those who relish historical accuracy, not only in plot, setting and equipment but also in character and true-to-the-era acting, nauseous. Many good Forumites love this movie, but a number of them will add, "I don't even consider this a war movie." Enough said.

Zackly. Its a bank heist set in a wartime scene.[:D]

[Anachro]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Strongly disagree. It was a microcosm of the battle and showed many of the elements that drove the losses and the heroism that saved so many. The jumping/overlapping timelines confused me at first but I saw it a second time on TV and it was much more compelling when you knew where each vignette fit into the overall picture.

Trying to portray the entire battle would have left no place/time for showing the human experience of the disaster.

Well, I'm not going to go into a whole critique and analysis of the film because, frankly, I only saw it one time and have no desire to put in the work to see it again and write up a constructive criticism citing why I think poorly of it. It suffices to say that I think the overlapping stories of differing time structures does little beyond creating a chaotic mess that does a poor job telling either the "human experience" of the battle or its actual story. This is backed up by the many people I have spoken to who aren't WW2 experts like those on this forum, most of whom came away from the film puzzled or unsure of what exactly they'd seen.

I'm well aware some might have a different opinion; I'm comfortable in my assumption that Dunkirk will be one of those films praised initially by a media star-struck by its famous director and "artistic" take on the battle, but forgotten in a decade as its banalities and lack of true vision become more apparent. I have no desire to see it again, but perhaps I will, if but to simply reconfirm and reinforce my notions. Who knows? Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

p.s. On a completely unrelated note, I have hated all of the new Disney Star Wars films. Utter trash, except for perhaps Rogue One, which was passable.

[rustysi]

Grandparents make all kinds of senseless sacrifices for their grandkids.

[:D]

[rustysi]

Better yet when it’s a domestic stoush but they still label it World ala their bastardisation of cricket, ie: baseball.

Hey Aussie, I think 'rounders' would be a better choice.[:D]

[FlyByKnight]

ORIGINAL: Chris21wen

Sahara (1995) gets my vote for inaccuaracy. Americans in Tobruk really?

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that one was a satire. [:D]

[oaltinyay]

Not a bad movie imho, but did anyone watch "below" ? I always wondered if there was really a German DD implement as "claws" that DD used to troll the sub. I vaguely remember an Ottoman method to drag some sort of chain net by some small boatds to catch the subs in the Marmara sea during Gallipoli but not claws. Anyone heard about this ?

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Big B

ALL contemporary WW2 films are horrible, I don't know why anyone bothers with them - unless they like being lectured or enjoy historical inaccuracy.
They are all made by Bean-counters who peddle the likes of Battlefield 1942 X-Box.

Don't get me wrong, there's something fun about being able to play first person shooter types like Battlefield 1942. Why, if I could 'load into' Rafe's PH persona, that might be fun. Because then, of course, I could 'load into' Kate Beckinsale too. Fnar fnar...

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: rustysi

Wind Talkers is a good follow up or runner up for 'worst modern war film of all time'. Again starring Nicholas Cage. A pattern?

The only positive I can say for this movie is that it did shine some light on a largely ignored event of WWII.

What was that? That Cage killed 432 Japanese all by himself? That F6F Hellcats dropped invisible napalm canisters that enveloped whole ridges like a burning gasoline drum?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Good man.

Some people say the film is crass, disrespectful, embarrassing, ahistorical, the CGI is toilet, the story is turgid, it's poorly acted, poorly scripted and poorly directed........ but if you can get past all that, and see the film for what it really is, then I'm sure you'll agree it has.... er... a quality all of it's own.


One of the dumbest lines in the entire history of Hollywood....
I think World War II just started!

Are you implying that Britain and its Commonwealth hangers-on and their little tiff with Adolf and Benito was more than a local wrestling match? Soccer hooligans hadn't even been invented yet! And as for Mustache Joe, he had his butt kicked all the way to Moscow so you can't call his efforts in 1941 "war"!

Obviously WWII couldn't have happened without Ben Affleck being there to "dramatize" it!

warspite1

Hey! Don't be dissin' Ben and his en point portrayal of Rafe McCawley's exploits during WWII!

His contribution to the Allied efforts is often under-appreciated. At least some people - including war game makers - are starting to fully realise his importance. Strategic Command for one:

[Canoerebel]

We haven't mentioned the most recent WWII flick - Hacksaw Ridge. Many people I know loved that movie, but I have to confess that I didn't think very much of it. I'm pretty sure Mel Gibson, under pseudonym, was the director.

[Anachro]

He was the director, but I don't believe under any pseudonym. As for me, I enjoyed it. Favorite movie? Nah, but worth a watch.

[Canoerebel]

Wait, Gibson really directed it? I'd forgotten. It has his hands all over it. Patriot: Charge! We Were Soldiers: Charge! Hacksaw Ridge: Charge!

Small thing of exaggeration noteworthy to those who'd read Desmond Doss's book - the "cliff" he had to deal with in lowering soldiers was a ledge, I think perhaps 10 feet high. In the movie, more like the White Cliffs of Dover.

[Anachro]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Small thing of exaggeration noteworthy to those who'd read Desmond Doss's book - the "cliff" he had to deal with in lowering soldiers was a ledge, I think perhaps 10 feet high. In the movie, more like the White Cliffs of Dover.

Well, that's noteworthy! Talk about a "Hollywood spectacle."

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Anachro

He was the director, but I don't believe under any pseudonym. As for me, I enjoyed it. Favorite movie? Nah, but worth a watch.

I agree. Of course, I thought Hart's War was in a similar vein too, so I think Canoerebel may disagree. [:)]

[Canoerebel]

Well, I included Hart's War in my second post as one of the good though not perfect movies of recent vintage.