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RE: April

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Think I killed about 6 units this turn. No sign of anything but crud yet, Soviets are just throwing out road blocks.



I think I understand the disband the corps idea. Yes I think they have hindered movement a little but so does the weather and they have not inflicted much damage compared to what they take. On balance I think they are not worth having. But I am not playing the Axis so not sure if they have been annoying at all or just meaningless. Maybe Tyrone have a opinion?
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RE: April

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Yep. You can trade 2 rifle corps for 1 cav corps and get a lot more for that cav corps since it has nearly twice the starting experience and more movement. 3 rifle corps will buy you a mountain corps. 4 will get you a mech or armor corps.

Alternately, you can disband them immediately once you get rifle armies but this is kind of tricky because you have to ride out 4 turns until the new builds turn up. But in this game I think that could've worked out well given the weather situation. And of course some of them will die before you get a chance to disband.

The starting rifle corps have such low experience levels that they hardly even count as speed bumps. If they began with some kind of decent experience I might be persuaded to keep them, but as it stands...
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RE: April

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Yep. You can trade 2 rifle corps for 1 cav corps and get a lot more for that cav corps since it has nearly twice the starting experience and more movement. 3 rifle corps will buy you a mountain corps. 4 will get you a mech or armor corps.

The starting rifle corps have such low experience levels that they hardly even count as speed bumps. If they began with some kind of decent experience I might be persuaded to keep them, but as it stands...

Yes I understand. maybe a bump in experience wouldn’t hurt 😀
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RE: April

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While Russia is fighting for for it’s life the British on their rainy island is pondering it’s next move. It is a “kitchen sink” invasion of Russia. So Britain need to do something fairly soon. There is not a single German in the west only Yugoslav and Italian units in France. 2 Italian air units in the Med. The axis have 21-22 air units in the east compared to Russia’s 13.

I see 3 ideas.

1 invade Norway and possibly Sweden.
2 Invade France
3 Invade Portugal and Spain

1 Doesn’t feel decisive enough but maybe could stop the iron shipment and later invade Denmark maybe Finland
2 It seems doable the Yugoslav units seems to go from 2 strength to 1 strength after only a few bombing runs. But even if British. Troops get ashore then what. Even if I can capture a couple of ports the ports look too small to support a proper invasion and haven’t the economy to build massive amounts of supply trucks. Want to build a Mulberry 😀
3 Open up a new front in Spain looks tempting. Better weather and many large ports for good supply but Spain is big and the British don’t have that many units yet so am afraid they might get outflanked ( but that would require quite a number of Axis troops withdrawn from somewhere else which would be good) also can’t conquer Spain so Axis will get a fair amount of units and a air unit.

Big decision anyone have any advice please share 😀
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Iberia and Scandanavia are sideshows. Iberia is also a very tough nut to crack for the British by themselves.

Your options are very limited until the USA comes in. I would send as much lend lease as possible to the Soviets, max that out. Build some strat bombers. If he has his entire air force in the east, what's defending the Ruhr? Force him to spend points on flak, at least.

Longer term, develop your position in the Med and try to knock Italy out. The Italians are pretty weak by themselves without some German stiffening. Get something going Libya and force the Germans to help Italy. If you can take out Libya and then Tunisia, Italy starts looking very ripe for surrender after the USA enters.

I doubt you have the wherewithal to do much in France. But I don't know the size of your army. If you do try for an early French landing, then you won't be able to afford a strategic bombing campaign, it's one or the other of these things.

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RE: April

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I have Libya but not Malta. Take Tunisia from Vichy probably doable. Germany starts with a fair amount of Flak not sure if any extra have been built. So gun for Italy well it worked historically 😀. I will think on it thanks for your thoughts.
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How do you know average weather? Is there any info about weather possibilities anywhere I don´t think I have seen any.
There is a weather map and table with on the Beta patches link.

Expect German reinforcements to the West soon, will not be leaving it that exposed once the summer comes. Have just been pondering how best to defend the French coast, is a bit of a conundrum in this game with offensive air power being so strong.
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How do you know average weather? Is there any info about weather possibilities anywhere I don´t think I have seen any.
There is a weather map and table with on the Beta patches link.

Expect German reinforcements to the West soon, will not be leaving it that exposed once the summer comes. Have just been pondering how best to defend the French coast, is a bit of a conundrum in this game with offensive air power being so strong.

Thank you! I didn´t know I will look at it.

Yes I understand I feel I have not by far enough units as the German in the other game. Of course a worse outcome for me there but still.
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North.

Bad weather so not much action.
Assault Talinn and kill a couple of corps.

South.

No combats, just following up.

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RE: April

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Minors don't seem to quite pay in this game as other games. So unless they give you a very big strategic window they could be a resource drain. Sure that the Allies can train their airforce on Axis Western Units? Take ports possibly and give them back until stronger?

I still don't know how many cities in Italy must go down to get the cake, historically just Sicily correct?
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May '41

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North.

Get across the Sorot, killing a few units in the process, and ZOC a Mech unit that should not be able to get away next turn. Think the Soviets will have to retreat here or loose a lot of guys with Axis being across the river in force.

Steady advance towards Smolensk continues, no Panzers here. Goal was to go for Leningrad first, in retrospect not sure if that was a good strategy.

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RE: May '41

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South.

Storm the Dnepr, could have charged forwards but am not sure how strong the Soviet counter attacks would be so elect to just leave the two Panzers across the river and aim for a breakout next turn.

Killed 8 Inf corps and 2 Armies this turn, Soviets must be under a bit of pressure.

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RE: May '41

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Would you include Game Date for turn so we know where you are in the seasons.
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RE: May '41

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Game date at the head of every post, this was the first posting for May '41.
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RE: May '41

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Killed 8 Inf corps and 2 Armies this turn, Soviets must be under a bit of pressure.


Yes it was disconserting to see how easily the armies shattered. They were only attacked twice and took like 35% losses and shattered. At least 7 turns of clear weather left really not sure how that is going to work out. Soviets have a fair amount of units but they cannot die as easily as that.

I hadn´t studied the weather charts if I had known that the chance for clear weather in May was so big I probably would have retreated from the Pskov line. One of many lessons learnt [:)]

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RE: May '41

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North.

Kill the Mach corps that I had ZOC'd last turn and the Finns kill an Infantry corps.
Otherwise just advance into contact.

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RE: May '41

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South.

Mud so no combats, resting ready for the main assault.

UK start strategic bombing, have a couple of leaders running around redistributing the AA. I can't see that it would work to try and defend with fighters.

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June

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North.

Get up to Leningrad and begin to roll up the Soviet line from the South. leningrad looks a tough not to crack, 6 AA in the city and all their best units around.

Panzers pushing towards Kalinin.

I started off with two main thrusts and seem to be attacking in 4 areas now, not sure if I have my Barbarossa strategy right.



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RE: June

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South.

Cross the Dnepr at Kiev, have a couple of reserve Panzers coming up behind.
In the South break up the Soviet line and pocket an army against the sea.
Crimea doesn't look too strongly defended, may try and get in next turn.

3 corps killed this turn.

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Late June

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North

All my attacks around Leningrad failed.
Good advance East of Kiev.

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