OOB Comments

[pry]

Data Collected

Just in case anyone is interested the Player requested changes/fixes/and suggestions list now comes in at at a whopping 31 pages.

[Kizsam]

Hi

Not sure if this is mentioned, I only scanned the previous posts.

There are two seperate units that are named "51st Heavy AA Bn" in the Japanese OOB for Scenario 15. One of them is in Pescadores and the other is in Saigon.

Regards.

[BPRE]

Hi,

Here's a really minor one. When looking at the ship screen of Dutch subs of the O19 class or KXI class the show as O19 Class Class and KXI Class Class.

If you've got the time (I can understand that this will get a very low priority) maybe you could fix it.

Thanks for an excellent game
BPRE

[McNaughton]

Currently the Blenheim IV upgrades to the Wellington III. I can find no squadron in the Far East that followed this upgrade pattern. Most Blenheim IV's upgraded to Vengeance Dive Bombers, or Blenheim V's.

[m10bob]

Should the blimps be considered,there were 160+ in use by the U.S.(apparently exclusively),and they were used on both east and west coasts,and in the Med.
Used for ASW,scouting,etc,with a longer "in the air" range than a fixed wing,(so maybe the route need be plotted like a ship?)..They could carry depth charges!!..

[Mike Scholl]

And most importantly, NO CONVOY ESCORTED BY A BLIMP EVER LOST A SHIP during
the entire war. They were evidently quite good at their job.

[McNaughton]

Some ships were notably missing from Scenario #2.

HMS Exeter CA (Arrives Jan 5, 1942) Originally a Singapore convoy escort, joined ABDA COM

HMS Emerald CL (Arrives Jan 29, 1942) Far Eastern Fleet, based out of Colombo, participated in Singapore convoys.

HMS Enterprise CL (Arrives Jan 13, 1942) Far Eastern Fleet, based out of Colombo, participated in Singapore convoys.

HMS Glasgow CL (Arrives Jan 5, 1942) Far Eastern Fleet, based out of Colombo, participated in Singapore convoys.

Plus, numerous Indian and British Sloops, Transports and Armed Merchant Cruisers.

http://leden.tref.nl/~jviss000/Default.htm (See SPECIALS -> SINGAPORE CONVOYS)

[Ron Saueracker]

The Luskan/Dadman AAR triggered a lingering issue regarding SOPAC HQ. I'm not exactly sure when when SOPAC was formed, but I'm pretty sure it was located in Auckland, NZ until August 1st, 1942, when it transferred to Noumea, New Caledonia.

[Hard Sarge]

ahh, the transports loaded and headed toward Lunga, why is the Marine CD unit loaded and the 1st Mar Div still sitting at the base, with no ships around to load them

kind of HARD to take Lunga with a CD unit

that TF carries over 40000 supply points

to load the 1st Marines, you would need to unload the CD unit and then reload the Combat troops (hopefully) the next day, but over all, throwing the whole invadsion plans off

HARD_Sarge

[Howard Mitchell]

I-16 Climb Rate
Currently the I-16 has the highest climb rate of any Allied aircraft. Though an under-rated design (often simply because it was as ugly as sin and looked old-fashioned, with an open cockpit) its climb rate was not that good.

According to this web site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_I-16 the I-16s supplied to China were I-16 Type 10s (not the I-16c which I cannot find any references to either in books or via Google). The Type 10 was powered by a 750 hp M-25V engine and had the following characteristics:

Maximum speed - 278 mph
Initial climb rate - 2,100 feet/min
Service ceiling - 27,000 feet
Armament - 4x7.62mm ShKAS machineguns

The figures for the other I-16 variant listed in the game, Soviet-operated I-16 Type 24 with a 930/1100 hp M-63 engine, are:

Maximum speed - 285 mph
Initial climb rate – 3,250 feet/min
Service ceiling – 35,500 feet
Armament - 4x7.62m ShKAS machineguns, 6xRS-82 rockets

The designations given to Soviet aircraft production were chaotic compared to European and American practice, often with no clear distinction being made between different models of the same aircraft. Many I-16 Type 28s were built using I-16 Type 24 components with the exception of 2xShVAK 20mm cannon in the wing, so a cannon-armed Type 24 is not ahistorical.

My source is 'Soviet Air Force Fighter Colours 1941-1945' by Erik Pilawskii, ISBN 1-903223-30-X, which covers aircraft design and history in depth as well as colour schemes.

[Becket]

Loaded the patch and checked the Soviet OOB for August Storm, and the random WO is still in command of not only Far East Command (Vasilevsky's command), but several other fronts. The actual OOB can be found here: http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources ... z3.asp#ap2

I know it's just a minor scenario, but I would be overjoyed to see the historical commanders present. Also, note that the other problem with the OOB is that everything on the map is attached to Far Eastern Command instead of the respective Fronts.

[McNaughton]

ORIGINAL: Becket

Loaded the patch and checked the Soviet OOB for August Storm, and the random WO is still in command of not only Far Eastern Front (Vasilevsky's command), but several other fronts. The actual OOB can be found here: http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources ... z3.asp#ap2

I know it's just a minor scenario, but I would be overjoyed to see the historical commanders present. Also, note that the other problem with the OOB is that everything on the map is attached to Far Eastern Command instead of the respective Fronts.

This is because units will not recieve supplies unless they are attached to a theatre command.

[Becket]

ORIGINAL: McNaughton

ORIGINAL: Becket

Loaded the patch and checked the Soviet OOB for August Storm, and the random WO is still in command of not only Far Eastern Front (Vasilevsky's command), but several other fronts. The actual OOB can be found here: http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources ... z3.asp#ap2

I know it's just a minor scenario, but I would be overjoyed to see the historical commanders present. Also, note that the other problem with the OOB is that everything on the map is attached to Far Eastern Command instead of the respective Fronts.

This is because units will not recieve supplies unless they are attached to a theatre command.

Ah, okay. I can live with that. Also, it looks like some of the units are on the map too soon, but I can live with that, too. [:D][:D][:D]

[Hipper]

Hmm just got to may 1942 when 7th armoured brigade arrives, imagine my supprise when they have a rather measly 55 or is it 60 experience,

not to recap their war record but they had just spent 2 years of very active war in the desert against the Africa corps and the Italians, I strongly suspect that they should be the most experienced allied unit in the game

Granted they had just been withdran from combat in the desert and re equipped the did not suffer disasterous personel casualties.

Slim had a very good opinion of them

cheers on to page 32

[Drongo]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
ahh, the transports loaded and headed toward Lunga, why is the Marine CD unit loaded and the 1st Mar Div still sitting at the base, with no ships around to load them

Already reported in the support thread. We will look into it.

[Hard Sarge]

Thanks for the reply
the size of some of these posts, makes it HARD to tell if anything is seen or not

(I was still able to take Lunga, fast transports for the 1st Marines and had to move half the Para's over from Tilgui (?) but still got bad guys on Tilgui)

HARD_Sarge

[pad152]

Witp all version upto 1.21
The USN BB Colorado (Maryland class - 3145) starts the game (campaign 15) with it's CXAM Radar (damaged - red), that never get's fixed, it looks like the problem is no CXAM Radar is being build?

OOB Questions:

1. Should the Colorado start with CXAM Radar?

2. Shouldn't the CXAM Radar be built?

[TIMJOT]

ORIGINAL: Hipper

Hmm just got to may 1942 when 7th armoured brigade arrives, imagine my supprise when they have a rather measly 55 or is it 60 experience,

not to recap their war record but they had just spent 2 years of very active war in the desert against the Africa corps and the Italians, I strongly suspect that they should be the most experienced allied unit in the game

Granted they had just been withdran from combat in the desert and re equipped the did not suffer disasterous personel casualties.

Slim had a very good opinion of them

cheers on to page 32

They may be under expirenced but they are waaay over equiped, with having Grant tanks in their TO&E in early 42. Historically they were equiped solely with M3 Honeys, MKIV light, various amored cars when shipped to SE Asia.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: pad152

Witp all version upto 1.21
The USN BB Colorado (Maryland class - 3145) starts the game (campaign 15) with it's CXAM Radar (damaged - red), that never get's fixed, it looks like the problem is no CXAM Radar is being build?

OOB Questions:

1. Should the Colorado start with CXAM Radar?

2. Shouldn't the CXAM Radar be built?

The West Virginia had CXAM radar at Pearl Harbor so it was included throughout the class. Should upgrade to SC or SG. There was a problem with this and has been pointed out in dev forum numerous times. Still a problem?

[Montbrun]

The 7th Armored Brigade Group in Burma was composed of the 7th Queen's Own Hussars (52 Stuart Is), the 11th Hussars (52 Stuart Is), the 1st Battalion Cameronians (Motor Battalion) from 2/24/42 - 3/12/42, the 1st Battalion West Yorkshire Regiment (Motor Battalion) from 3/12/42 - 5/12/42, the 414th Battery, RHA (Essex Yeomanry - 8 x 25 pounders), "A" Battery, 95th AT Regiment RA (12 x 2 pounder AT), 65th Company Royal Serrvice Corps, 13th Field Ambulance Company, RAMC, Ordnance and Field Park Companies.......