Concentration of effort for Scenario Mod.

[TheElf]

I haven't been able to find a top down pic of the Ki-94. If anyone has one please post it! [:)]

[CobraAus]

2 map panel 10 at stage 3

[CobraAus]

3 map panel 3 before

[CobraAus]

4 map panel 3 stage 3 - coastal water treatment not done yet

keep in mind that these shots are half size jpegs

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Marc

There are still many errors in the OOB concerning IJN CAs as I already posted in July. If you would make use of the data I could contribute it. Please let my know before I start the work because my time is limited.

There are a few errors regarding the armament of the CAs of the Myoko and Takao class.

The Myoko class had a Torpedo armament of 2x4 tubes left and right with a total ammunition of 24 torpedos (16 in the tubes and 8 in reserve). This refit took place in 1939-1941 (the Myoko the last to finish it).


The Takao class looked different too:

The refit of Takao and Atago couldn't be finished before the war started
They also had only 24 torpedos just like the Myoko-class. Their secondary armament was still the four single 12-cm HA guns. The ships were equipped with the four twin 12.7 cm mounts in May 1942.

Chokai and Maya couldn't be refitted before the war started.
Armament:
secondary guns: four single 12-cm HA guns (Chokai till sunk in 1944!!, Maya till conversion to AA-cruiser)
Torpedo: they kept their 4 twin mounts with 24 torpedos. (Chokai till sunk in 1944, Maya till conversion to AA-cruiser. She then got the 4 quad mounts but without reserve torpedos).

Source: Japanese Cruisers of the Pacific War, Eric Lacroix and Linton Wells II

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... s&n=507846

I would be interested in this data. My current references (which do not include Japanese Cruisers of the Pacific War) indicate that Atago and Takao were fitted with quad TT and twin 5" in 1939-40. By AA-Cruiser I assume you mean the replacement of Maya's "C" turret with two twin 5" during damage repairs in late 1943. I had thought that Maya and Chokai had received an upgrade in 1942, upgrading to twin 5" but not doubling the TT. We already have Chokai as a separate class in our scenario, I wonder if Maya should be too. Indicentally we also have Isuzu as a separate class due to her CLAA upgrade.

Don

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

That is my view as well. I would rather have a broader representation of different aircraft before having a great veriety of a single type. Within reason of course.

Andrew

I agree. We only have six additional carrier slots! There are two main points:

1. How far past 9/45 do we want the scenario to extend?
2. How important are sub-types of a given model compared to national differences (which are only icon changes.

I believe we have 14 empty non-carrier slots, so we can break the discussion into carrier and non-carrier.

Lively debate so far, let's keep up it.

Don

[CobraAus]

I will place this link here as well
http://warships.web4u.cz/staty.php?language=E
all nations are covered 100's of profiles 2D should be helpfull for what you are doing

sample

Cobra Aus

[CobraAus]

just for Ron flower class profile

Cobra Aus

[Tankerace]

Thanks CObra but I have already done a heap of new graphics for the project (about 3 months ago), including the flower class. Still, thanks for the help.

[Marc]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen
I would be interested in this data. My current references (which do not include Japanese Cruisers of the Pacific War) indicate that Atago and Takao were fitted with quad TT and twin 5" in 1939-40. By AA-Cruiser I assume you mean the replacement of Maya's "C" turret with two twin 5" during damage repairs in late 1943. I had thought that Maya and Chokai had received an upgrade in 1942, upgrading to twin 5" but not doubling the TT. We already have Chokai as a separate class in our scenario, I wonder if Maya should be too. Indicentally we also have Isuzu as a separate class due to her CLAA upgrade.

Don

Atago and Takao should be fitted in 1939 with twin 5" guns but "lack of funds initially prevented the replacement. The change was not made until March (Takao) and April (Atago) 1942 at the Yokosuka Navy Yard. However, some preparatory modifications to the support platforms and magazines were executed in 1939..."
Yes, with AA-Cruiser I ment the conversion of Maya you described.
The book says definitely that Maya received the quad TTs and twin 5" guns during her conversion to an AA-Cruiser. Chokai sank with the four 4.7" guns and the old double TTs.

I wouldn't put Chokai in a different class. Do it this way:
Takao and Atago start the war with their first refit already done while Chokai has it not yet done.
Maya is a different case. Either you put all cruisers in the same class and all have the choice of becoming an AA-cruiser in 1944 or you put Maya in an extra class or neither gets the AA-upgrade. It's a question of taste

Do you want the data in raw format or in WitP OOB format? The first would be easier. The data is not very easy to find in the book because it's quite scattered.

[Iron Duke]

Hi
This is all i've managed to find so far

[TheElf]

Great! That's all I need.

[TheElf]

Anyone given any thought to getting a sticky thread within which we can have seperate discussion threads for Ship OOB/Graphics, A/C OOB/Graphics, LCU OOB/Graphics, and others for general scenario direction? Who do we appeal to for that?

Do we have a general idea what this scenario is going to be about, what is it's purpose? How about a title?

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: CobraAus

I will place this link here as well
http://warships.web4u.cz/staty.php?language=E
all nations are covered 100's of profiles 2D should be helpfull for what you are doing

Cobra Aus

Thanks - picked up the Abdiel and a good PF-101. Will go back for more!

[michaelm75au]

Thank you Don.
Now that the wphex.dat file is being modded, I think that I will try to add some logic to the checker to ensure that units/bases/ships are located in a reasonable hex. Eg a ship does not start in the Simpson Desert (in Oz). I am slowly beginning to understand this file layout.[:D]
This will help if a player is switching back and forth between Andrew's MapMod and the official one.
It is a pity there is not a parameter to tell WITP where the game's root directory is (the default root seems to be the directory where the program resides). That way you have different setups all under the same umbrella.
Michael

[TheElf]

Latest effort. Ryan Fireball FR-1 & Seafire MkVb

[Tanaka]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

Latest effort. Ryan Fireball FR-1

wow those look great! still planning on updating anymore japanese tops???

[TheElf]

Yup. Any requests? I'm thinking of doing the Ki-94 in my sig. Though I'd rather spemd my time working on more likely additions that will definitely be needed for the scenario.

[Tanaka]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

Yup. Any requests? I'm thinking of doing the Ki-94 in my sig. Though I'd rather spemd my time working on more likely additions that will definitely be needed for the scenario.

great! as far as requests not looking for any new latewar planes really. just cool improvements to old favorites [:)]

i love what you did to spice up the paint and camo schemes on the older boys... [:D]

[TheElf]

All you have to do is ask. Takes me about an hour now. Which top do you think needs work?