CHS mod w/special map v.3b: Tristanjohn (Japan) vs. Ron Saueracker (Allies)

[mogami]

HI, Looks like the capacity of some ships is being shown in the op line

[Tristanjohn]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I don't see reference to S-39 being hit in my replay or the text version of Japan's. What is going on here I do not know. Am I blind?[&:]



Notice leader issue on turn one as well.

Saboteurs? [8D]

[mogami]

Hi, Did it hit a mine?

[Tristanjohn]

ORIGINAL: Mogami

HI, Looks like the capacity of some ships is being shown in the op line

Hmmm. Maybe that explains why a few of our TFs didn't make their warp moves correctly. I do hope this does not mean we're gonna have to stand down, but somehow I have that feeling.

[Tristanjohn]

ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi, Did it hit a mine?

I don't recall seeing that in the replay, either, but I suppose it's possible.

Let me guess. According to the date stamps on the forum messages, the clocks sprung forward this morning and . . . I forgot to change them again?

[ChezDaJez]

Spent many a week at Midway hunting subs. Its no garden spot. Its nice and warm with plenty of sand, 20 minute walk from side to side. The big down side are the damn Gooney Birds. They are the noisest birds I have ever heard. They click their beaks non-stop 24/7 and the island is literally covered in them. Every 4-5 feet is a gooney bird. You can walk right up to them and they won't move. You can't touch them because they are "protected." Used to have to send the duty truck down the runway to pick up the birds and move them off the runway so we could take off and land. On one takeoff, we sucked a gooney bird down #3 engine which immediately flamed out at 200'. We wallowed in the air for a long time until we dumped enough fuel to climb. After we landed, I had to go dump my shorts.

Chez

[ChezDaJez]

I've seen one anomaly in the combat replay. The surface action at Shanghai showed no ships on the screen so I wasn't sure who was fighting who. Gun symbols appeared but no ship symbols or names. Figured it must have been foggy that day.[:D]

Chez

[Tristanjohn]

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

I've seen one anomaly in the combat replay. The surface action at Shanghai showed no ships on the screen so I wasn't sure who was fighting who. Gun symbols appeared but no ship symbols or names. Figured it must have been foggy that day.[:D]

Chez

During that same action (which I have a screenshot of somewhere above--the "rowboat" scene) I saw two different graphics of Japanese ships, first one, then it snapped over to the other. Strange.

[Tristanjohn]

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

Spent many a week at Midway hunting subs. Its no garden spot. Its nice and warm with plenty of sand, 20 minute walk from side to side. The big down side are the damn Gooney Birds. They are the noisest birds I have ever heard. They click their beaks non-stop 24/7 and the island is literally covered in them. Every 4-5 feet is a gooney bird. You can walk right up to them and they won't move. You can't touch them because they are "protected." Used to have to send the duty truck down the runway to pick up the birds and move them off the runway so we could take off and land. On one takeoff, we sucked a gooney bird down #3 engine which immediately flamed out at 200'. We wallowed in the air for a long time until we dumped enough fuel to climb. After we landed, I had to go dump my shorts.

Chez

I think I'll pass on Midway.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

I've seen one anomaly in the combat replay. The surface action at Shanghai showed no ships on the screen so I wasn't sure who was fighting who. Gun symbols appeared but no ship symbols or names. Figured it must have been foggy that day.[:D]

Chez

Thats an art issue. I saw them. Check your ShipTrans file.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Tristanjohn

ORIGINAL: Mogami

HI, Looks like the capacity of some ships is being shown in the op line

Hmmm. Maybe that explains why a few of our TFs didn't make their warp moves correctly. I do hope this does not mean we're gonna have to stand down, but somehow I have that feeling.

I just spent about twelve hours on the damn first turn. I say we go ahaead and see what comes...at least for now. My brain is quite sore.

[Tristanjohn]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

ORIGINAL: Tristanjohn

ORIGINAL: Mogami

HI, Looks like the capacity of some ships is being shown in the op line

Hmmm. Maybe that explains why a few of our TFs didn't make their warp moves correctly. I do hope this does not mean we're gonna have to stand down, but somehow I have that feeling.

I just spent about twelve hours on the damn first turn. I say we go ahaead and see what comes...at least for now. My brain is quite sore.

Then send us the turn. You've had it for two days now. [:D]

[Ron Saueracker]

In the box baby! I'm really curious what the hell KB is doing if it did not attack PH, Manila...nada!


...where's my turn?[;)]

That first turn stalled my two other games...[:(]

[Lemurs!]

Tristanjohn,

Are you sure you have the right download? I checked the database and the scenario on Spooky's has the Martlet with 321mph speed and 6 .50cals.

That seems right to me. Do you have a different version?

Mike

[TheElf]

That issue with the sub could be the replay bug. However, my understanding of that bug is that the Jap player WILL see the correct reply so if neither of you saw it.....who knows?

[Ron Saueracker]

The second turn was OK to me, despite TJ saying he saw some strange things. Only problem was the Tojo file did not replace the old one...still have the white blob fighter, and a mistake I made in completely forgetting to issue order to Menado units. I always miss something early on![:D]

Action off Jolo, Dec 8, 1942.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41

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Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45


55 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 7

Japanese ground losses:
448 casualties reported

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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 45,49


Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at San Marcelino, 43,50, firing at TF 88
TF 88 troops unloading over beach at San Marcelino, 43,50


40 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Kyo Maru #13

Japanese ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Jolo Island, 39,59


Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 110
TF 110 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45


Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 42,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-124

Allied Ships
AK Fortuna, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
AP Ariadne Moller, Shell hits 26, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 1
DD Asagumo, Shell hits 2
DD Murasame
DD Harusame, Shell hits 1
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
PT PT-31
PT PT-32
PT PT-33
PT PT-34
PT PT-35, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT PT-41

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Night Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo, Shell hits 2
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
PT PT-31
PT PT-32, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT PT-33
PT PT-34, Shell hits 35, and is sunk
PT PT-41

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Jolo Island at 39,59

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 15 destroyed
F1M2 Pete: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho, Shell hits 28, and is sunk
CS Chitose
MSW Ataka Maru, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
MSW Takasago Maru, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PG Edo Maru
PC Showa Maru #5
AP Hasuna Maru
AP Kanko Maru
AP Kakyu Maru
AK Hakubasan Maru
AK Yasukawa Maru

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 1

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Night Time Surface Combat at 46,55

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Harukaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
AK Taurus, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio
CL Jintsu
CA Atago
CA Takao
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 30
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 9

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Naval bombardment of San Marcelino, at 43,50

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
CL Naka


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 5

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Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 43,59


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
DD Namikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Okikaze
DD Kamikaze
CL Kiso
CL Tama


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Jolo Island, at 39,59

Allied Ships
CA Houston

Japanese ground losses:
146 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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TF 113 troops unloading over beach at Tarawa, 84,95


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Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45


12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
238 casualties reported

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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 45,49


Japanese ground losses:
210 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at San Marcelino, 43,50, firing at TF 88
TF 88 troops unloading over beach at San Marcelino, 43,50


34 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 3

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 110
TF 110 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45


4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
144 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Nanning , at 40,38


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 9


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet
3 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-51 Sonia x 8
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
1 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 22
Ki-21-II Sally x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 7 damaged

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 9000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M Nell x 21
C5M Babs x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 9000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 9000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 9000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 9000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 24
Ki-21-II Sally x 21
Ki-48-I Lily x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
19 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
12 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
7 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
12 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
9 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 77

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 5 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
12 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 63
Ki-15 Babs x 7

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 30 destroyed, 32 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 21 destroyed

Allied Ships
AV Langley, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Capillo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AR Dewey Dry Dock, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
12 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 9000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 9000 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
C5M Babs x 2
Ki-48-I Lily x 4
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 80th Chinese Corps, at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Ki-15 Babs x 2

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4
Vildebeest IV x 11


Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 4


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Atutasan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 37,55

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK La Florecita

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 2
Buffalo I x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Higashiyama Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 40,59

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 12
E13A1 Jake x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Parcita

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet
4 x F1M2 Pete bombing at 2000 feet
4 x F1M2 Pete bombing at 2000 feet
4 x F1M2 Pete bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 40,59

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 2
B5N2 Kate x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AP Luzon, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Time Surface Combat at 42,45

Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi
DD Inazuma

Allied Ships
TK Ebonol, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
PT Q 111
PT Q 112
PT Q 113, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT Q 114, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT Q 115, Shell hits 5, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat, near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
PT Q 111, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PT Q 112, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat at 43,47

Japanese Ships
MSW Choun Maru #6, Shell hits 2
MSW Choun Maru #7
MSW Choun Maru #18, Shell hits 2
PG Akitsu Maru, Shell hits 2
PG Chiyo Maru, Shell hits 6
PG Chohakusan Maru, Shell hits 1
AP Kamo Maru
AP Aki Maru, Shell hits 5
AP Terukuni Maru
AP Chowa Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Hanakawa Maru
AP Jinsan Maru
AP Satsuma Maru
AP Tutukami Maru

Allied Ships
PT MTB 7
PT MTB 9, Shell hits 1
PT MTB 10
PT MTB 11, Shell hits 1
PT MTB 12

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of San Marcelino, at 43,50

Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
CL Naka


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Jolo Island, at 39,59

Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Nagara

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 43,59

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
DD Namikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Okikaze
DD Kamikaze
CL Kiso
CL Tama

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6
Port supply hits 2


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Ground combat at Jolo Island

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1616 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 37 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo Island base !!!



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Ground combat at Manado

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5942 troops, 55 guns, 19 vehicles

Defending force 1735 troops, 12 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manado base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Do 24K-2: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 15591 troops, 107 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 7560 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
338 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
242 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4836 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1167 troops, 6 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cagayan base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 3 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
253 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4505 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 6928 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Aparri

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5780 troops, 134 guns, 9 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 36 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!!



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Ground combat at San Marcelino

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6928 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 9274 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Tarawa

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 53 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarawa base !!!


Another annoying thing is my first love...bashing naval combat. In the 4 engagements between MY ATTACKING PTs and the Japanese Amphibious TF at San Marcelino, in all cases the Allied force was surprised. I can see it for the initials, but how do PT Boats get surprised by the same TF twice? Surprise is sufferred, not enjoyed, by the attacker too often it seems in my opinion.

[ChezDaJez]

Here's some very good close up photos of the Martlett. Shows four guns pretty well.

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/martlettipe_1.htm

Chez

[TheElf]

Only problem was the Tojo file did not replace the old one...still have the white blob fighter

Hmmm,
I KNOW I gave you guys the right file. Did you replace the old file? Dumb question, I know but check your ART folder for two copies of the Jtop and Jtop_alpha. If you have two the game will reference whichever was there first. I just checked the zip file and the red Tojo is in there.

TJ, let me know if you have the same problem, it could just be operator error on Ron-Fighter's part.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

Only problem was the Tojo file did not replace the old one...still have the white blob fighter

Hmmm,
I KNOW I gave you guys the right file. Did you replace the old file? Dumb question, I know but check your ART folder for two copies of the Jtop and Jtop_alpha. If you have two the game will reference whichever was there first. I just checked the zip file and the red Tojo is in there.

TJ, let me know if you have the same problem, it could just be operator error on Ron-Fighter's part.

I'm sure the problem is on my end...remember who you are dealing with.[:D]

[Tristanjohn]

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

Here's some very good close up photos of the Martlett. Shows four guns pretty well.

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/martlettipe_1.htm

Chez

The problem is, Steve, there never was "the Martlet." There was a confused (the numbering wasn't even consecutive, so the Mark III came before the Mark II so to speak) bunch of them. And then, to make it harder to understand still, the FAA finally changed the nomenclature to "Wildcat IV" and such.

The picture above is of a fixed-wing G-36B (French variant), or a British Martlet Mark I. The FAA received 81 of these (ten were lost at sea during delivery, but these were made good by the ten full spares the French had also ordered).

Let's assume the date on the picture above is wrong, just for the sake of explaining how screwy this gets. Then that plane might also be a fixed-wing G-36A, which was the English variant. (Actually it couldn't be because that one looked a bit different. [:)]) They received ten of these. Then, when the new folding-wing model of the F4F-3 became available (F4F-3B) these first ten were designated Mark IIIs, with the new folding-wing G-36As (90 of those) becoming Mark IIs.

The British also took delivery on 30 F4F-3As originally earmarked for Greece. No doubt Don's on top of all this minutiae. Mike (Lemurs!) said they'd gone over aircraft re the OOB for some time, especially the squirrely Wildcat issues.

Anyway, the model shown above is the export version of the Grumman F4F-3A. That's not what I was discussing before higher up in the thread. The problem in the game with Mike's scenario 15 is that he lists no Martlets at all, only a "Wildcat IV/VI." Trouble with that is those two Wildcat marks were two entirely different beasts, plus that doesn't encompass the earlier mark Martlets, including the Mark IV (with the Wright R-1820-40B Cyclone engine), which corresponded to the F4F-4. And that was the Wildcat model with six .50s. And it stayed that way unitl General Motors got into the act and turned some of its east coast production facilities into what became known as the Eastern Aircraft Division, which went on to produce the successful FM-1 and FM-2 versions of the extended "Wildcat" (this took a load off Grumman, which had limited production space and was about to get into the Hellcat line), and the British took delivery on those later models as well (Martlet V and Wildcat VI, respectively).

I've subsequently checked the OOB for the Allies in the CHS test scenario (didn't want to peek earlier, spoling my fun and all) and in there Mike only has a vanilla "Martlet," which I've tried to explain is fantasy. There never was the Martlet. There were a number of different "Martlets," and they all pretty much performed uniquely. I don't know how many slots are available for planes, but if some of those are being taken up by exotic Japanese stuff then I'd urge someone to pay closer attention to the Wildcat series, especially the British variants, because these were produced in round numbers and were a significant factor in the war.