Real Life Pilots For Inclusion

[Hard Sarge]

how is this ?

I think I got everybody but Vann

[von Shagmeister]

Great. Full complement (24+3) plus a few - all the Supernumeraries.
 
If only we had full complements for the bomber units or even half.

[Hard Sarge]

roger that

I been doing better with getting some pilots for the CW bomber units

with the US or most GE units, I can at least find the COs and some others, the CWs are really HARD to crack

[von Shagmeister]

140 Sqn as of 17Aug43
 
I haven’t got full biographical details for the pilots so exp level are educated guesses based on the limited info I have.
 
Definite
 
F/O[font="times new roman"] [/font]Anderson, L.A.; Exp 65-75
W/C Bowen, R.I.M. (C/O); Exp 75-85
Sgt Brearley, P.; Exp 70-75
F/L Brown, C.T. (Flt Cdr?); Exp 70-80
F/O Cartmell, J.; Exp 65-75
P/O Crotty, M.C.; Exp 55-65
Sgt Crux, P.R.A.; Exp 70-75
P/O Gillette, A.B.; Exp 55-65
F/O Hart, P.I.; Exp 65-75
F/O Ingham, J.; Exp 70-75
P/O Joseph, H.K.; Exp 55-65
F/L Lucarotti, A.F. (Supernumerary?); Exp 70-80
F/O Mason, C.; Exp 70-80
F/O Mersham, L.T.; Exp 70-75
F/L Mitchell, A. (Supernumerary?); Exp 70-80
F/S Moffatt, W.; Exp 70-80
F/O Parry, E.G.E.; Exp 70-80
F/O Reynolds, J.B.; Exp 60-70
F/S Sharp(e), C.E.; Exp 60-70
F/O Shearman, W.; Exp 70-80
F/O Smith, L.G.; Exp 70-80
P/O? Thompson, D.; Exp 70-80
 
Probable
 
F/O Batenburg, R.; Exp 65-75
F/O Black, J.; Exp 65-75
Sgt Garnade, H.; Exp 60-70
F/O Henderson, H.; Exp 65-75
S/L Mottram, R. (S/L Flying or Flt Cdr); Exp 75-85
P/O Parker, C.F.; Exp 55-65

[JeffroK]

Hard Sarge,
 
Congrats in getting such a detailed database together.
 
To keep the feel right, will the US fliers be loaded as per the screenshot ie: Fl Lt Stanley.M.May and the CW as Fl Lt Stanley May.
The US and CW had different ways of presenting their names, we generally ignore the initials in our names?

[Hard Sarge]

Hi Jeff
 
over all, the names are close, I am using what the docs I find list them as ?
 
one that is odd, I find alot of the CW pilots use there middle name instead of there first name in there docs
 
I do know, that alot of the docs, only show letters instead of full names (which can be a pain, since there may only be 300 A. Jones who flew for the RAF)
 
which I hate to say, I have been working over the grave lists, that gets depressing
 
I do know, that it looks like the CW pilots have a lot more middle names then the Yanks do
 
 

[von Shagmeister]

RAF docs varying considerably in the naming conventions they use, seems to depend as much on the clerk typing/writing the docs as much as anything else. It's quite common on the F.540/F.541 for NCOs to have no ititial(s) listed at all whilst Officers usually have at least their first initial listed. I've never seen complete full names given on these docs though that doesn't mean that certain Sqns didn't do it.
 
In USAAF docs that I've seen they certainly seem more likely to give a full first name and middle initial(s).

[Hard Sarge]

Roger
 
what I mean is, you can find a listing of say G. Wilson, but if you dig the guy up, you find that his name was R.G.F. Wilson
 
and roger, you not going to find there full names on any of the docs, but the grave lists and the award lists tend to give the full names

[BB57]

HS I'm not sure if you are aware of this site or not. It has a lot of the crews that flew with the 100th listed.http://www.100thbg.com

[Hard Sarge]

nice site

I got alot of info on the 100th though, but, still a good site

thank you

[BB57]

Your welcome. Looking forward to the finished product. Thank you for all that you and your team are doing to make this great game better.

[soeren01]

Do we have James Steward (445th and/or 443rd Bombing Group) and Antoine de Saint Exupéry ?

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: soeren01

Do we have James Steward (445th and/or 443rd Bombing Group) and Antoine de Saint Exupéry ?

II/33, got him

should add Jimmy to the 445, I think some of the stuff I read about him, was having him as a non flying Officer, but that was later in the war,when he was with 453 (he flew 20 missions with the 445, but his records show no missions flown with the 453, he wouldn't record them)

(you threw me for a loop with the 443, that was a transport outfit

[Hard Sarge]

okay, I see it

in Dec the 445th flew into England and started flying missions

in March 44, he took over the 453rd as Oper Off

in July he went to staff duties with the 2nd Bomb Wing

stuff I was reading lately, had him with the 2nd Bomb Wing, and out of action

he was awarded 2 DFCs, a Croix de Guerre, a Air Medal with 3 clusters

he went from Private to Col in 4 years !!!

[Hard Sarge]

see what you did, had to find crews for the 453rd

my eyes feel like they are turned inside out

but got the info I was looking

[soeren01]

There is a page for the 445th.


http://www.445th-bomb-group.com/

[Hard Sarge]

445th
453rd
44th
410 RCAF
418 RCAF
439 RCAF

worked over

[Hard Sarge]

445th

[Hard Sarge]

453rd

[Hard Sarge]

44th