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- Neogodhobo
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- Neogodhobo
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
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Okay this defense strategy has been approved. I give you the greenlight.
Okay this defense strategy has been approved. I give you the greenlight.

- Neogodhobo
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
I Finnish my air turn.
happy to report that I evacuated all the factories that are in danger, discounting the doomed armaments in Voronezh we now have 239 Armaments and 181 Heavy Industry.
Not much I can do about Yaroslavl... if it holds next turn I would like to evac the H. Industry but the price of evacuation is now horribly expensive, it will cost 16 000 rail capacity per piece!! considering that we might get 60 000 rail or less next turn, that is a high price to pay.
I re-establish contact with the Voronezh pocket with the sacrifice of a weak Cav division, but this is the last time, I plan to retreat the troops to the next safest river line.
Central commander, I placed all Fighter reserves at the Airfields North of Yaroslavl. it seams Moscow M.D HQ disbanded so keep that in mind.
I recommend that you replace the leader of 48th Army or transfer the more important troops to the 43rd army(the one with the 5.4 leader), it would be great if we can get as high CV as possible with the same army in the city. I fear 73 CV is not enough.
recon as much as you need!
there is still 1700 rail capacity left, if you need it, use it!
happy to report that I evacuated all the factories that are in danger, discounting the doomed armaments in Voronezh we now have 239 Armaments and 181 Heavy Industry.
Not much I can do about Yaroslavl... if it holds next turn I would like to evac the H. Industry but the price of evacuation is now horribly expensive, it will cost 16 000 rail capacity per piece!! considering that we might get 60 000 rail or less next turn, that is a high price to pay.
I re-establish contact with the Voronezh pocket with the sacrifice of a weak Cav division, but this is the last time, I plan to retreat the troops to the next safest river line.
Central commander, I placed all Fighter reserves at the Airfields North of Yaroslavl. it seams Moscow M.D HQ disbanded so keep that in mind.
I recommend that you replace the leader of 48th Army or transfer the more important troops to the 43rd army(the one with the 5.4 leader), it would be great if we can get as high CV as possible with the same army in the city. I fear 73 CV is not enough.
recon as much as you need!
there is still 1700 rail capacity left, if you need it, use it!
RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Товарищи!
Center done.
Report:
20th Army bolstered with high CV units and set to 100% TOE (Gorky Main Defense).
Yaroslavl defense set to 90% TOE and Refit, all 43rd Army.
Deepening of defensive lines made along critical areas.
Request:
Please divert some reinforcements to Penza and Saransk next week!
Center done.
Report:
20th Army bolstered with high CV units and set to 100% TOE (Gorky Main Defense).
Yaroslavl defense set to 90% TOE and Refit, all 43rd Army.
Deepening of defensive lines made along critical areas.
Request:
Please divert some reinforcements to Penza and Saransk next week!

- thedoctorking
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Funny, I don't seem to be able to do recon behind my front. There are recon aircraft with miles left on functioning airbases with supplies, etc., but no love. Ah, I think it is % required to fly that is the issue. Was this intentional? Maybe air units that have fewer than the required # of a/c to fly could be withdrawn to national reserves.
There are a couple of units back behind the front who are on rail lines and have some MP left. Are you planning to move them at the end, Supremo? It's not critical, but it would be nice if I had a cavalry division in the Leningrad Front sector so I could put him on reserve and try to put some hurt on the Finns.
Another thing: there doesn't appear to be any Axis rail lines north of Moscow except for the line running down through Karelia. Does this suggest that there will be an offensive in my sector in the snow, or later? I might need some reinforcements if the Finns are going to get pushy over the winter. Has anyone been keeping track of the Axis rail repair units? I can't see any evidence of Axis rail operations anywhere.
There are a couple of units back behind the front who are on rail lines and have some MP left. Are you planning to move them at the end, Supremo? It's not critical, but it would be nice if I had a cavalry division in the Leningrad Front sector so I could put him on reserve and try to put some hurt on the Finns.
Another thing: there doesn't appear to be any Axis rail lines north of Moscow except for the line running down through Karelia. Does this suggest that there will be an offensive in my sector in the snow, or later? I might need some reinforcements if the Finns are going to get pushy over the winter. Has anyone been keeping track of the Axis rail repair units? I can't see any evidence of Axis rail operations anywhere.
RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
ORIGINAL: thedoctorking
Funny, I don't seem to be able to do recon behind my front. There are recon aircraft with miles left on functioning airbases with supplies, etc., but no love. Ah, I think it is % required to fly that is the issue. Was this intentional? Maybe air units that have fewer than the required # of a/c to fly could be withdrawn to national reserves.
Acknowledged, I've sent 2 recon air groups to your front, one is a U2 rcn, it has low range, 10 hexes, with a staging base it has a max range of 15 hexes, max range = radius + 1/2 radius.
so keep that in mind.
actually the % require to fly is pretty low, 30%, meaning that 70% of total planes can fly, once Mud arrives, I will change it to 50% to improve the VVS.
I mostly care to send low morale air groups to the reserve, and unless the airbase is being attack by Axis air force.
once Mud arrives, I will sent all air groups except recon to reserve.
Another thing: there doesn't appear to be any Axis rail lines north of Moscow except for the line running down through Karelia. Does this suggest that there will be an offensive in my sector in the snow, or later? I might need some reinforcements if the Finns are going to get pushy over the winter. Has anyone been keeping track of the Axis rail repair units? I can't see any evidence of Axis rail operations anywhere.
the Karelia rail way as not be fixed even in the town of janisjarvi, low damage of 7-12 all the way to the Russian mainland. it seams Axis has poorly administer the repair here.
the poor supply even in summer on your front, with the best being 30 MP, suggest that the Axis will not perform an offensive here or indeed receive little attention if at all.
it's also my opinion that an offensive with the Fins is highly unlikely, the Fins have little manpower and attacking our forces is the best way to drain their manpower as long as you don't suffer any encirclements.
there is little value for the Axis in capturing more territory there other then the city of Cherepovets and that is not worth the casualties of Fins to reach there.
To find out where the FBD is working just check the rail line with 1 damage, for example at Moscow with 4 rail hexes with 1 damage.
- thedoctorking
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
So yeah, open up the game and try to do a recon mission behind the Finnish sector. I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. Not a big deal.
As you say, a Finnish offensive is a good thing from our point of view, since there aren't very many Finns and any casualties can't be replaced. In fact, the Finnish Army is getting smaller all the time.
As you say, a Finnish offensive is a good thing from our point of view, since there aren't very many Finns and any casualties can't be replaced. In fact, the Finnish Army is getting smaller all the time.
RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Flag text file has been saying "North has file" for quite a while. Doctor, are you still working on it?

RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
ORIGINAL: thedoctorking
So yeah, open up the game and try to do a recon mission behind the Finnish sector. I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. Not a big deal.
As you say, a Finnish offensive is a good thing from our point of view, since there aren't very many Finns and any casualties can't be replaced. In fact, the Finnish Army is getting smaller all the time.
at the start of turn 16, your front only had 2 recon groups, with just 5 aircraft each, not suprising it could only do 2 or 3 missions, which I personal did.
for next turn you will have an additional 2 recon groups.
The Fins also have a lot of withdrawals.
- thedoctorking
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Sorry, long day, I'm done now.
RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Finish my South and air turn.
I'm slowly retreating to the Don and Rostov, to ensure the safety of Rostov I will keep on defending the minor river, however if I spot mobile units in close proximity I will retreat further back, I still believe that space between the enemy and Rostov can guaranty the safety of the City during the vulnerable snow turns.
I also did another change, I notice that most units directly under Stavka were on refit, the more units that are on refit the less likely men and arms are to reach the more important units, we only want manpower to slowly fill up these formations so they can start training, I turn off refit for these units.
in about 2 turns, we are about to hit an armaments shortage, compounded by a manpower shortage, we need to be more careful then ever on what stays on refit and what doesn't. with all this said, I'm contemplating a risky strategy, I plan to let the Rostov industries stay in place for the entirety of winter, while I feel confident in the safety of the city, this will no doubt make it an even more tempting target.
perhaps I will evacuate the Heavy Industry regardless.
I'm slowly retreating to the Don and Rostov, to ensure the safety of Rostov I will keep on defending the minor river, however if I spot mobile units in close proximity I will retreat further back, I still believe that space between the enemy and Rostov can guaranty the safety of the City during the vulnerable snow turns.
I also did another change, I notice that most units directly under Stavka were on refit, the more units that are on refit the less likely men and arms are to reach the more important units, we only want manpower to slowly fill up these formations so they can start training, I turn off refit for these units.
in about 2 turns, we are about to hit an armaments shortage, compounded by a manpower shortage, we need to be more careful then ever on what stays on refit and what doesn't. with all this said, I'm contemplating a risky strategy, I plan to let the Rostov industries stay in place for the entirety of winter, while I feel confident in the safety of the city, this will no doubt make it an even more tempting target.
perhaps I will evacuate the Heavy Industry regardless.
RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
I just took a look at the Supcom Final save.
Forgive me but...
Noticed there were 2 Tank Brigades in the Voronezh pocket that were still assigned to STAVKA. Is this intentional?
Also 50% of the units in the pocket are set to refit. Are these the important units we are talking about? Does this not mean that we will be throwing away valuable men and equipment for nothing? All this while practically no units in the North or Center have this priority. I would have imagined at least some of the very weak new formations arriving around Gorky would receive some priority so more men have time to conduct training.
Would be very interested to hear the angle on these decisions.
Also, there are (relatively speaking of course) a lot of units under Central Command. Should a couple of armies be diverted from Center -> South command to replace the lost southern front section?
Forgive me but...
Noticed there were 2 Tank Brigades in the Voronezh pocket that were still assigned to STAVKA. Is this intentional?
Also 50% of the units in the pocket are set to refit. Are these the important units we are talking about? Does this not mean that we will be throwing away valuable men and equipment for nothing? All this while practically no units in the North or Center have this priority. I would have imagined at least some of the very weak new formations arriving around Gorky would receive some priority so more men have time to conduct training.
Would be very interested to hear the angle on these decisions.
Also, there are (relatively speaking of course) a lot of units under Central Command. Should a couple of armies be diverted from Center -> South command to replace the lost southern front section?

RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
ORIGINAL: Darojax
I just took a look at the Supcom Final save.
Forgive me but...
Noticed there were 2 Tank Brigades in the Voronezh pocket that were still assigned to STAVKA. Is this intentional?
won't make a difference, the tank Brigades CV is puny, a hasty attack by a inf. regiment can take it out.
couldn't bother with the effort to wast command points on it.
Refit only works effectively to units close to the rail, while there is still a bonus, only those units right on the rail will get priority for replacements.ORIGINAL: Darojax
Also 50% of the units in the pocket are set to refit. Are these the important units we are talking about? Does this not mean that we will be throwing away valuable men and equipment for nothing? All this while practically no units in the North or Center have this priority. I would have imagined at least some of the very weak new formations arriving around Gorky would receive some priority so more men have time to conduct training.
Would be very interested to hear the angle on these decisions.
besides, I downgraded all the isolated units ToE to 20%, so its a non issue.
the main reason I do this is to prevent the divisions from wasting supply building meager fort levels.
ORIGINAL: Darojax
Also, there are (relatively speaking of course) a lot of units under Central Command. Should a couple of armies be diverted from Center -> South command to replace the lost southern front section?
are you talking about moving a decent number of divisions as well to the South?
if so, I strongly object, the priority right now it to protect Gorky from an all out assault during the 1st winter month, the center with lack of troops hold little value either way.
weak reinforcements, to slow down the enemy will do just fine.
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Guys Im a bit mute these days but dont worry, I read everything, every day.

- Neogodhobo
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Alright. the files will be with us by tomorrow, the axis team said....They ended their message with "Good Luck" .....
that is quite troublesome.
that is quite troublesome.

RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
Turn is in.
Yaroslavl fell this week. Despite our valiant troops fighting like Russian steppe bears, 3 Panzer and 6 Infantry divisions (150,000 men) led by von Manstein proved too much.
No German has yet crossed the Volga, however. The Germans are massing on the other side in the Yaroslavl sector. Mud is forecasted for next week, if that happens we should be able to hold them back. Will focus on improving our depth defenses where possible.
Yaroslavl fell this week. Despite our valiant troops fighting like Russian steppe bears, 3 Panzer and 6 Infantry divisions (150,000 men) led by von Manstein proved too much.
No German has yet crossed the Volga, however. The Germans are massing on the other side in the Yaroslavl sector. Mud is forecasted for next week, if that happens we should be able to hold them back. Will focus on improving our depth defenses where possible.

RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
such a shame for Yaroslavl, we could have evacuated the factories over the mud, we must march forward.
turn 18 is always the mud turn with the anomaly of snow for the South.
Honestly I want to resign my position as Air marshal, let some other brave comrade take the mantle.
turn 18 is always the mud turn with the anomaly of snow for the South.
Honestly I want to resign my position as Air marshal, let some other brave comrade take the mantle.
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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter.
The only other person who knows a lot about air is Darojax I believe. Il do my turn tomorrow, but I will need to get a replacement after that. Too much to do here right now and after this Im leaving. Will be back around the week of the 4th April.
