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Hello from Argentina,

I would like if you could add Kfir Block 60 for Argentina
Due this is my first post I am not allowed to put links for further references

Thanks a lot!
martin [:)]

This deal hasn't been signed yet. Will keep an eye on it though!

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Hello mikmyk,

Only for my understanding.

The team proceed with a request of a new platform from a user only if this platform exists or is operational in any country?

Thanks in advance

martin [:)]
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Hello mikmyk,

Only for my understanding.

The team proceed with a request of a new platform from a user only if this platform exists or is operational in any country?

Thanks in advance

martin [:)]

Yeah it generally has to have been in service or very likely to be. The reason why is it a pain for us to remove them if the deals are cancelled and somebody has already added them to a scenario as we break their scenario when we do it. We also would like links to good sources and our pictures if possible.

The only exceptions we've made are some hypothetical units that there was lots of data on (A-12, Mig-35 (Mig 1.42 variant) etc.

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Hello mikmyk,
thank you for the quick answer.
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I have mentioned this before but I would like to see some High-Fidelity Decoys placed into the game. These would be decoys physically shaped similar to the actual target, and designed to throw off the attackers missiles. These are quite easily obtained these days, and with some electronics attached which gives off an electronic signature, it would make it real difficult for the actual pilot, or missile seeker, to determine which was a real target. I've been told that it is anyone's guess, about 50/50, from anything outside of three miles.

Additionally, Microwave jammers are also easily obtained and they can really throw off HARMs (an other weapons) in flight.

Finally, it would be nice to incorporate smoke, or any other means of reducing visibility to disrupt laser and/or visual guidance systems.

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Just found another loadout problem; British Phantoms FG.1 and FG.2 have no A/G loadouts and FG(R).2 is capable of carrying a recon pod and used as such.

F.3,"F-4J(UK)"s was only used for Air to Air.

I have to add that RAF regarded those FG.1`s as some wery tired airplanes and used them only "ligtly" armed.

Bjørn

By 1980 the RAF Phantoms had been replaced in the strike role by Jaguars and were only serving in the intercept role. So doesn't seem they carried any A/G ordnance.

Have re-assigned this one to Paul, for a subversion of the RAF FGR.2 in the strike role 1969-1977.
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Hi Rag no problems on that one
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Just found another loadout problem; British Phantoms FG.1 and FG.2 have no A/G loadouts and FG(R).2 is capable of carrying a recon pod and used as such.

F.3,"F-4J(UK)"s was only used for Air to Air.

I have to add that RAF regarded those FG.1`s as some wery tired airplanes and used them only "ligtly" armed.

Bjørn

By 1980 the RAF Phantoms had been replaced in the strike role by Jaguars and were only serving in the intercept role. So doesn't seem they carried any A/G ordnance.

Have re-assigned this one to Paul, for a subversion of the RAF FGR.2 in the strike role 1969-1977.
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Another small patrol boat worth adding. No rush, but it has some interesting possibilities. It is apparently now part of the Libyan forces, but could serve as a good "generic" inshore patrol boat, too.

Stan Patrol 1605
http://damex.biz/en/products/stan-patrol/1605
http://www.damen.com/markets/stan-patrol?type=1605
http://www.damen.com/~/media/nl/Documen ... Izreg.ashx <-- full spec sheet; it looks like it can be armed with two bow machine guns, port and starboard, probably 7.62 mm.

Thanks for considering it.
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Ah the speed boat of the week.

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Ah the speed boat of the week.

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Absolutely. :) What I'm hoping we'll eventually see in the database is about four or five generic police/patrol boats to cover the hundreds of different but frequently almost interchangeable classes produced and used all around the world, even by countries with no other naval forces. We already have a few such classes, with the 7-m and 11-m RHIBs, but there are others that could be added. Maybe something like these four:

10-meter/10-ton <-- 1 x 7.62 machine gun
15-meter/20-ton <-- 2 x 7.62 machine gun
20-meter/35-ton <-- 2 x .50-cal guns, limited AAA capability
25-meter/60-ton <-- 2 x 20-mm. guns, limited AAA capability

These could also be used by criminals, revolutionaries, etc. I'd also like to see more variations on common civilian and commercial vessels that have been armed by criminals (or by companies trying to deal with pirates, etc.)

And, of course, I'd be happy to see as many of the specific models as can be added, if the data for them is available.

I'd also like to see a few more options for mobile ground units that might fit with rebels, mercenaries, criminals, etc. A few generic infantry sections or platoons with weapons like generic RPGs, 81-mm. mortars (only needs a crew of five, has a three-mile range, and can do put serious hurt on buildings, or ships--there is actually one infantry section like this in CWDB), and so on.

As you can see, I'm thinking in terms of how to better model various low intensity conflicts, where a few dozen heroes on small vessels face off against a few dozen bad guys, either right on the shore or in their own small vessels.

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Hi Mark

Do you know that you can add and remove weapons, mounts and sensors in the editor? To a large extent these kinds of units are exactly why we added the functions.

Will add these to our to-do list but we do have a good deal in front of it.

Thanks!

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Hi Mark

Do you know that you can add and remove weapons, mounts and sensors in the editor? To a large extent these kinds of units are exactly why we added the functions.

Will add these to our to-do list but we do have a good deal in front of it.

Thanks!

Mike

First, thanks. I appreciate it.

Second, about editing weapons, etc., yes, absolutely. One reason I'm eager to see these smaller patrol boats added someday is that we have a lot of platforms in the databases for patrol vessels in the range of 100 to 500 tons, but far fewer in the range of, say, 20 or 30 or 50 tons. Many of these boats have better ranges (sometimes at the cost of lower top speeds) than the RHIBs; they are truly patrol vessels, meant to go out for a day or two at a time, rather than "interceptors." That's a difference that can be important in a scenario. Once we've got some of those platforms in the database, however, they can be used as a framework and tweaked by changing sensors and weapons. So I'd love to see, say, 15-, 20-, and 25-meter patrol boats, as generic platforms, in the same way that we already have the 7- and 11-meter RHIBs. Then they can be used to stand in, with a bit of tweaking, for dozens of actual classes of small patrol vessels around the world.



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And, of course, I'd be happy to see as many of the specific models as can be added, if the data for them is available.

Speaking of that, here are a couple. All three could also be added as "generic" patrol boat models (e.g., "20-meter patrol boat (generic)," etc.). Again, these are all "just to get them in the queue," although I am definitely hoping to see them someday...

Archer-class patrol vessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer-class_patrol_vessel
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/The-Fleet/S ... 2000-Class

Scimitar-class patrol vessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scimitar_c ... rol_vessel
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/The-Fleet/S ... itar-class

USCG Response Boat – Medium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_B ... %93_Medium
http://www.uscg.mil/acquisition/rbm/pdf/rb-m.pdf <-- fact sheet
http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/1600 ... 114_41.pdf <-- operator's handbook

Thanks for considering these.


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By the way, I know I say it all the time, but it's worth saying again, and I think I speak for a lot of people when I say it.

Thank you.

This game and these databases are amazing, and you guys put an incredible amount of work into making them amazing. I really appreciate how much you guys do.





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I posted this on the main forum in a thread about the geolocation capabilities of modern ESM systems, but I thought I would post it here too and request a db update. Based on the below links, would it be possible to modify or create these ESM systems to include range information: ALQ-218, ALR-94, ALQ-240(V)1, and "Rivet Joint ESM." The Rivet Joint would probably also require a new a/c version, as the only one currently in the db is good from the 1970s on - when single-aircraft geolocation would have been considered a total pipe dream!
Rivet Joint: http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/FactSheets/Di ... joint.aspx - “The Rivet Joint's modifications are primarily related to its on-board sensor suite, which allows the mission crew to detect, identify and geolocate signals throughout the electromagnetic spectrum.”

EA-6B (ICAP III, ALQ-218 system): http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2 ... stems.html - “The new ALQ-218 receiver is the heart of the ICAP III Prowler, as are the sophisticated algorithms that allow selective-reactive jamming and precision threat geolocation capabilities.”

EA-18G (which also carries the ALQ-218): http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articl ... e-jet.html - “The Growler will also feature the Super Hornet’s new APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which enables simultaneous tracking and targeting of multiple air and ground targets. Combined with the ICAP III AN/ALQ-218 EW Receiver Suite, which provides precision passive radar threat detection, identification, precision geolocation and jammer control, the Growler will have unprecedented situational awareness.”

F-22A (Software Increment 3.1 fielded in 2012): http://www.defensenews.com/article/2011 ... ction-Line - "This increment is designed to defeat air or surface threats in any threat environment; operational test and evaluation is nearly complete," Knuteson wrote. "So far, precision geolocation accuracy exceeds the requirement by 15%, synthetic aperture radar (SAR) map accuracy exceeds specifications by 55%...”

P-8A: http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2 ... ature.html - The AN/ALQ-240(V)1 electronic support measures system will provide a significant increase in capability for operations in the complex maritime battlespace. The adaptive tuning, precise direction finding and geolocation capabilities of the ALQ-240(V)1 will allow P-8A aircrews to detect and identify radar and other electronic threats to the aircraft and Navy vessels.”

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Did I miss it, or is the KC-46 not yet in the database?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-46
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ORIGINAL: gsmith63

I posted this on the main forum in a thread about the geolocation capabilities of modern ESM systems, but I thought I would post it here too and request a db update. Based on the below links, would it be possible to modify or create these ESM systems to include range information: ALQ-218, ALR-94, ALQ-240(V)1, and "Rivet Joint ESM." The Rivet Joint would probably also require a new a/c version, as the only one currently in the db is good from the 1970s on - when single-aircraft geolocation would have been considered a total pipe dream!

Gregg

Second this. Most U.S. UAVs and manned ISR aircraft have geolocation capabilities today.
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Got some non important requests, USAF RF-4C and German RF-4E needs bombs and Nukes, for both DB`s.

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