Climb Mt. Niitaka - Xargun vs Mr Kane
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: Lashio Lambs
Oddly it looks like mix-stats as it has the classic Shinano air groups but speed of a Taiho class. Would have been better if they kept the expanded super carrier air groups size of 147 aircraft.
Movement Question
Do units move slower when in hex with enemy units?
RE: Movement Question
Lots of things impact unit speed: fatigue, leadership, experience, disruption, mode, bombing, bombarding, morale, and more I have no doubt.
CV Upgrades
All of my CVs are due for upgrades in 4/43 with most of them gaining radars (important upgrade) but I'm sure MrKane knows this and may be waiting for 4/43 to launch a huge amphibious invasion somewhere. My CVs have been sitting in Paradise (Code name for their location) for at least 3 months now saving both fuel and not giving him any intel on their locations. I am wondering if I should put them all into upgrade together to get it over with or do them in groups. Since my CVs have played very little impact in the war since the early days I'm leaning towards all at once, but wondered what you guys thought?
Also, when do the US CVs have their upgrades? And how important are they?
Also, when do the US CVs have their upgrades? And how important are they?
RE: CV Upgrades
Can't answer about the allies and I don't know this mod.
as for you, its one of those player decisions; I don't think there is a best answer, it is more about you and your opponent. I tend to do mine all at once because I won't commit the KB piecemeal after 9/42 in any case. So, I minimize the time it is unavailable. Radar is a big deal ...
as for you, its one of those player decisions; I don't think there is a best answer, it is more about you and your opponent. I tend to do mine all at once because I won't commit the KB piecemeal after 9/42 in any case. So, I minimize the time it is unavailable. Radar is a big deal ...
Pax
RE: CV Upgrades
Radar is huge, but also only part of the puzzle. I am sure Mr. Kane will come for you early somewhere...he knows how to put together a kitchen sink invasion but 4/43 might be a bit early for the Allies to pull one off.
The KB isn't the only way to counter invasions.[:)]
Remember, Pax plays against the AI. Against an Allied player there might be times when you want to send in only a portion of the KB. Or show it. Keyword there is might.
The KB isn't the only way to counter invasions.[:)]
Remember, Pax plays against the AI. Against an Allied player there might be times when you want to send in only a portion of the KB. Or show it. Keyword there is might.
RE: CV Upgrades
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Radar is huge, but also only part of the puzzle. I am sure Mr. Kane will come for you early somewhere...he knows how to put together a kitchen sink invasion but 4/43 might be a bit early for the Allies to pull one off.
The KB isn't the only way to counter invasions.[:)]
Remember, Pax plays against the AI. Against an Allied player there might be times when you want to send in only a portion of the KB. Or show it. Keyword there is might.
Lowpe makes a good point. Sometimes it is better to show the KB than actually use it... or a portion of it. Oftentimes, your opponent will only know CVs are present somewhere; he will not know how many or whether they are fleet CVs or CVLs.
RE: CV Upgrades
Lowpe's comments are spot on, all of them, so take my tactical advice with a large grain of salt. In particular:
"I am sure Mr. Kane will come for you early somewhere...he knows how to put together a kitchen sink invasion...."
Which means not only is he ready for the KB, he will want it to show. One thing I note that a lot of players do well is on the attack, they can assemble almost all of their forces and focus on that. On the flip side, on defense, most players do NOT assemble their forces. In '43 the IJ Kaigun and air units are superior in both numbers and quality than the allies, yet many (most? recent) allied invasion are successful in '43 and worse, the allies not only do not pay a price, the IJ does.
As Lowpe notes: Mr Kane is one of the very best at this. He picks a target in '42 and preps 6 - 12 months for it assembling almost every unit available. Meaning, he is coming BIG. So big, that even if the KB shows up, or appears to show up, he still comes on his timetable. Showing a portion of the KB is intended to scare off a potential invasion ... my observations of Mr Kane is that won't likely work. He will simply come on prepared to tangle with the KB, or even hope it shows up.
Again, your interpretation of your opponent. Where are his units? What haven't you seen that you know he has? etc etc etc. He's got a big distraction going on in Burma right now ... what units are NOT present? That will tell you what is coming, tough part is the where and when. Last thing I would say is that he tends to be BOLD and I have not seen him repeat a ploy yet in an AAR .... he doesn't always do one, so I can't say about the other games. GOOD LUCK!
"I am sure Mr. Kane will come for you early somewhere...he knows how to put together a kitchen sink invasion...."
Which means not only is he ready for the KB, he will want it to show. One thing I note that a lot of players do well is on the attack, they can assemble almost all of their forces and focus on that. On the flip side, on defense, most players do NOT assemble their forces. In '43 the IJ Kaigun and air units are superior in both numbers and quality than the allies, yet many (most? recent) allied invasion are successful in '43 and worse, the allies not only do not pay a price, the IJ does.
As Lowpe notes: Mr Kane is one of the very best at this. He picks a target in '42 and preps 6 - 12 months for it assembling almost every unit available. Meaning, he is coming BIG. So big, that even if the KB shows up, or appears to show up, he still comes on his timetable. Showing a portion of the KB is intended to scare off a potential invasion ... my observations of Mr Kane is that won't likely work. He will simply come on prepared to tangle with the KB, or even hope it shows up.
Again, your interpretation of your opponent. Where are his units? What haven't you seen that you know he has? etc etc etc. He's got a big distraction going on in Burma right now ... what units are NOT present? That will tell you what is coming, tough part is the where and when. Last thing I would say is that he tends to be BOLD and I have not seen him repeat a ploy yet in an AAR .... he doesn't always do one, so I can't say about the other games. GOOD LUCK!
Pax
RE: CV Upgrades
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Again, your interpretation of your opponent. Where are his units? What haven't you seen that you know he has? etc etc etc. He's got a big distraction going on in Burma right now ... what units are NOT present? That will tell you what is coming, tough part is the where and when. Last thing I would say is that he tends to be BOLD and I have not seen him repeat a ploy yet in an AAR .... he doesn't always do one, so I can't say about the other games. GOOD LUCK!
My problem is I do not know what the OOB of the allies is - so I can't tell what is missing. I do know he has a ton of divisions in Burma pushing hard - including at least 2 Australian ID, at least 1 Indian Div (plus several Bde) and 4+ British IDs and a ton of armor.
I have not spotted any US units in Burma other than some air groups. In the SW Pacific he still has a sizable force in the Port Moresby area and is now just making a few forays into New Britain. I am surprised the allied CVs haven't showed up for an invasion of the Marshalls and I'm expecting it any day - although I did sink and damage several US transports during his invasion of Tarawa. I am still building up the North Defenses as it has been very quiet and could be an avenue of attack straight to the home islands.
The OZ area has been quiet as well.
RE: CV Upgrades
post a world map...dollars to donuts Mr. Kane is prepping for something.
You need some deep recon of likely staging bases.
You need some deep recon of likely staging bases.
RE: As requested
I see 2 targets myself for the US... since most of the British and Australian Army is engaged in Burma or SW Pacific.
Northern Route
or
Marianas
Marianas has little to no aircraft their currently, but I have been building them up for the past few weeks. So they have airfields and forts built and near max troop levels on Guam and Saipan. Will have to check if I have search assets there. Maybe a quick recon to Wake to see whats up.
Northern Route
or
Marianas
Marianas has little to no aircraft their currently, but I have been building them up for the past few weeks. So they have airfields and forts built and near max troop levels on Guam and Saipan. Will have to check if I have search assets there. Maybe a quick recon to Wake to see whats up.
RE: As requested
He has Adak ... that is a key staging point for a northern incursion. He can load at pearl or koidak, but his troops will have much higher disablements when they disembark ...
Pax
March 13th, 1943
Found the Allied Navy !!!
Night Time Surface Combat, near Buin at 109,131, Range 9,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied Ships
CL Leander
CL Achilles
CL Java
CL Sumatra
CL De Ruyter
CL Tromp
DD Piet Hein
DD Kortenaer
DD Evertsen
DD Witte de With
DD Van Nes
DD Banckert
DD Van Ghent
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Le Triomphant
And survived round 1... But they found me again for Round 2.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Torokina at 109,130, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CL Leander
CL Achilles
CL Java
CL Sumatra
CL De Ruyter
CL Tromp
DD Piet Hein
DD Kortenaer
DD Evertsen
DD Witte de With
DD Van Nes
DD Banckert
DD Van Ghent
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Le Triomphant
No US Ships here, but interesting makeup none-the-less.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Buin at 109,131, Range 9,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied Ships
CL Leander
CL Achilles
CL Java
CL Sumatra
CL De Ruyter
CL Tromp
DD Piet Hein
DD Kortenaer
DD Evertsen
DD Witte de With
DD Van Nes
DD Banckert
DD Van Ghent
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Le Triomphant
And survived round 1... But they found me again for Round 2.
Night Time Surface Combat, near Torokina at 109,130, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CL Leander
CL Achilles
CL Java
CL Sumatra
CL De Ruyter
CL Tromp
DD Piet Hein
DD Kortenaer
DD Evertsen
DD Witte de With
DD Van Nes
DD Banckert
DD Van Ghent
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Le Triomphant
No US Ships here, but interesting makeup none-the-less.
RE: March 13th, 1943
Found a Dutch Sub and believe I sunk her. Forced her to surface and then pounded her with gunfire.
Submarine attack near Palembang at 49,90
Japanese Ships
PB Yahonui Maru
PB Fuji Maru #3, Shell hits 2
PB Tosho Maru, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
SS O21, hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS O21 is sighted by escort
O21 bottoming out ....
PB Yahonui Maru attacking submerged sub ....
SS O21 forced to surface!
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
Submarine attack near Palembang at 49,90
Japanese Ships
PB Yahonui Maru
PB Fuji Maru #3, Shell hits 2
PB Tosho Maru, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
SS O21, hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS O21 is sighted by escort
O21 bottoming out ....
PB Yahonui Maru attacking submerged sub ....
SS O21 forced to surface!
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Yahonui Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Fuji Maru #3 firing on surfaced sub ....
PB Tosho Maru firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
RE: March 13th, 1943
17th Indpt Guards Regiment makes a stand in the jungle west of Lashio. Second day in a row.
Ground combat at 61,46 (near Lashio)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 14157 troops, 104 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 502
Defending force 4374 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 110
Allied adjusted assault: 277
Japanese adjusted defense: 115
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
288 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
271 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
44th Indian Brigade
39th Indian Division
Defending units:
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
They braved heavy air attack for two days and still fight back. Gives me some hope that its won't be a cake walk for the Allies in Burma. I LRCAP them but only like 20 fighters showed up. Didn't shoot down any bombers, but definately disrupted their attack runs.
Ground combat at 61,46 (near Lashio)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 14157 troops, 104 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 502
Defending force 4374 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 110
Allied adjusted assault: 277
Japanese adjusted defense: 115
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
288 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
271 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
44th Indian Brigade
39th Indian Division
Defending units:
17th Indpt Guards Regiment
They braved heavy air attack for two days and still fight back. Gives me some hope that its won't be a cake walk for the Allies in Burma. I LRCAP them but only like 20 fighters showed up. Didn't shoot down any bombers, but definately disrupted their attack runs.
RE: March 13th, 1943
Just the Dutch navy here (with a few HMS in there) ... these are all pretty much 'throw-away' ships ...ORIGINAL: Xargun
Found the Allied Navy !!!
...
No US Ships here, but interesting makeup none-the-less.
Pax
RE: As requested
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
He has Adak ... that is a key staging point for a northern incursion. He can load at pearl or koidak, but his troops will have much higher disablements when they disembark ...
You got to get some recon out and about. Find some high recon glen pilots, or transfer them in, and recon the likely staging bases.
I agree with your assessment Kuriles or Marianas, but also the SRA is in danger too.
Always check your SigInt, it might give you some non base hits.
Another thing to think about with respect to recon. You can put some Judy C recon planes on a fast carrier or fast baby carrier, and get within 17-21 hexes I recall and use them to recon. Much better results than glen from an Iboat or two.
RE: March 13th, 1943
They are in decent defending terrain, but look pretty disrupted by both the modifier and the final AV. It might be worth the 10 PP's to replace the leader with a higher quality one if you haven't done so already ... keep up wht LRCAP OR go after the airbase where they bombers are coming from.ORIGINAL: Xargun
17th Indpt Guards Regiment makes a stand in the jungle west of Lashio. Second day in a row.
...
They braved heavy air attack for two days and still fight back. Gives me some hope that its won't be a cake walk for the Allies in Burma. I LRCAP them but only like 20 fighters showed up. Didn't shoot down any bombers, but definately disrupted their attack runs.
Pax