Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Taiwan UH-1H 1970-2019 </summary>
<detail>Taiwan use UH-1H as standard army troop and log helicopter for 50 year. Retire last year. Can copy #2107 in database.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/RXRoy/status/1189489463161868289
sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Taiwan UH-60M Blackhawk </summary>
<detail>Taiwan use UH-60M as standard army troop and log helicopter from 2014. Can copy #2872 in database.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.helis.com/database/modelorg ... my-UH-60M/
https://twitter.com/RXRoy/status/1189489463161868289
sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add SSM Plt (SSC-1 Sepal TEL [4k44B Redut] to Vietnam. IOC 1980 </summary>
<detail>Soviets sell Vietnam Sepal TEL in 1980. Still in service today. Can copy #1505
</detail>
<evidence>
sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php
https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1309428720373956608
https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1308267240844791808
https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1308266720344170496
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add HQ-511 [Pr.771 Polnochny B] SS Vietnam. IOC 1981 x3</summary>
<detail>Soviets sell B variant of Polnochny to Vietnam. Still in service today. Can copy #1505. Igla's probably update to modern standard.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/p ... gister.php
https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1308408135154044931
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Yugoslavian/Serbian J-22 Maverick B Loadouts from 1982 </summary>
<detail>Update #1652,#1653,#2335,#2334 and for Maverick Loadout. Configuration likely the same as Kerry Loadout.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/p ... gister.php
https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1309150426349043714
https://acesflyinghigh.wordpress.com/20 ... -aviation/
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Global Hawk Updates 2020</summary>
<detail> US Global Hawk now use upgraded spectral camera (MS-177) and AN/ASQ-230 system. AN/ASQ-230 may have been in Block 30 and U-2 as well.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/artic ... k-uav.html
https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/r ... s-aircraft
https://utcaerospacesystems.com/wp-cont ... 177-DS.pdf
https://www.collinsaerospace.com/what-w ... nnaissance
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... on-lady-65
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>All Gabriel II Triple mounts have Gabriel V loaded regardess of year</summary>
<detail>Look like data entry error. All Gabriel II Triple mounts have Gabriel V loaded. Please restore to Gabriel II. Examples.SAAR II, SAR III, SAAR IV
</detail>
<evidence>
In database.
</evidence>

[CV60]

Possible error in DB3000 Facility_3218 and 3219 (67N6 and 67N6E Gamma-D radar). I've located an export information sheet located at https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... df_282.pdf (Note: this is in Russian. I've cut and pasted a Google Translate version below at the bottom. I have bolded the translated version). This indicates a couple of possible errors: The CMO data gives teh bandwith as NATO F-band (3-4 Ghz) The export sheet indicates the "decimeter" range (0.3-3 Ghz). This agrees with https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 63.en.html, which says it operates in the NATO D-band, and the Rosoboronexport page, which claims a high UHF band range. https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/air-defence- ... 867N6E%29/ . See also https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... ar-rus.htm (claiming it operates in the IEEE "L-band, equivalent to the NATO D-band).

Additionally, the database shows a max detection range of 300nm. In contrast, the the instrumented range is 400 km (216 nm)( https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/ ... 63.en.html) although the Rosoboronexport page indicates it can be modified to a 500km/270nm range, albeit with an (undefined) loss of altitude capability.

Radar station "Gamma-DE" is designed for effective
detection, identification, determination of three coordinates and tracking
a wide class of modern and promising air attack weapons,
including high-altitude stealth aircraft missiles (targets), in conditions
strong electronic countermeasures and natural interference, and
receiving information from an aircraft equipped with a transponder in codes
ICAO.
The radar can be used in automated and non-automated
air force and air defense control systems, as well as a route radar for
control posts and air traffic control.
The main differences between the station:
block-modular construction of equipment;
phased array antenna;
digital signal processing;
solid-state transmitters of various powers;
using information from other means of intelligence;
availability of automatic control and diagnostic equipment, systems
air conditioning, automatic fire system
alarms and fire extinguishing, other service devices;
the delivery of a set of remote equipment is provided,
ensuring the operation of the radar at a distance of up to 15 km from the checkpoint when pairing
by radio communication line, as well as the ability to delete
radar control room from the APU at a distance of up to 1000 meters;
ease of repair.

Main characteristics:
Working wavelength range: decimeter
View area::
by range, km: 10 - 400
in elevation, degree: -2 ... + 60
in azimuth, degree: 360
in height, km: 120
Target detection range:
with EPR 1 m2: 400
with EPR 0.1 m2: 240
Coordinate determination accuracy:
range, m: 60 - 100
azimuth, ang. min .: 10 - 11
by elevation angle, ang. min .: 15 - 18
Number of accompanied (tracks), not less: 200
Coefficient of suppression of reflections from local objects, dB: 50
Space review period / information update period, from: 10/5
Time of continuous work, hour: 72
Deployment time, min:
on a wagon trailer: 20
on a car chassis: 5

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add Turkish Tuzla class ASW Patrol Ships. P-1200 Tuzla IOC 2011 x16</summary>
<detail>Turkey build small class of ASW patrol boats. P-1200 Tuzla commissioned 2011 and 16 built. </detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuzla-class_patrol_boat
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/Turkis ... -class.htm
https://en.defenceturk.net/tuzla-class- ... trol-boat/
fb.asp?m=4419880
https://www.roketsan.com.tr/en/product/ ... er-system/
https://www.kongsberg.com/maritime/abou ... trol-boats
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add J-8H variant 1999.</summary>
<detail>There was middle variant called H that carried PL-11 missile and P-8. They were then upgraded HF standard after F came into service. Recently seen with KG-300 ESM Pod. Can likely be carried by F variants as well</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/stat ... 0075662339
https://sinodefence.wordpress.com/2016/ ... enyang-j8/
</evidence>

[Gunner98]

The AC-130H Spectre has a couple ammunition issues. According to FAS https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm

AC-130H (DBID 1141, 1617, 2282) should have 3000x M61 20mm rounds (30 bursts) and 256x M60 40mm rounds (128 bursts) the 105mm is good.

AC-130U (DBID 429, 1618, 2281) should have the same 40mm Ammo (256rds/ 128 bursts) but this ref says they carry 3000 rds of 25mm (150 bursts) : https://meggittdefense.com/product/spec ... n-storage/

AC-130U (DBID 738) & AC-130J (DBID 3173) look fine (cannot find a ref for the 30mm ammo but 640 looks OK)

AC-130A (DBID 622) Should (cannot find reference) have the same 20 & 40mm ammo but the 2000x 7.62 seems very low - perhaps missing a '0'.

The only relevant bit in this ref is the infographic on page 5 where it says the H could carry up to 10 tons of ammo, that seems high.
https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad- ... search.pdf

Tx

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Singapore KC-135R out of service date 2019 </summary>
<detail>Singapore replaced #1854 KC-135R aircraft 2019 and are selling. Add 2019 out of service date.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/f ... r-new-home
https://www.flightglobal.com/singapore- ... 93.article
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Kuwait F/A-18E and F/A-18F Block Super Hornets 2022 </summary>
<detail>Kuwait buy 22 F/A-18E and 6 F/A-18F Hornet. War Zone article has engine and sensor detail. Kuwait buy AIM-120C7, AIM-9X Block II, JDAM/LGB. Note.This is not Block III but upgraded Block II.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... line-paint
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/g ... ft-support
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/k ... les-amraam
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/k ... r-missiles
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/k ... -tail-kits
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/k ... unitions-0
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/p ... gister.php
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add PAC-3 version of Patriot for Kuwait 2014. Add PAC-3+ MSE for 2021 </summary>
<detail>Kuwait buy and replace to PAC-3 version of Patriot by from 2014 to 2016. Buy PAC-3+ MSE for 2021</detail>
<evidence>
https://defense-update.com/20120727_kuw ... 3-buy.html
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/k ... 3-missiles
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/k ... ments-mses
https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/ ... grade.html
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Taiwanese 240mm M1 and 155mm Coastal Defense Guns. </summary>
<detail>240mm and 155mm coastal defense guns Appear on Kinmen and Matsu through cold war. They are in revetment./detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/stoa1984/status/1310508531817353221
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2015/ ... na/409720/
https://thediplomat.com/2017/02/taiwans ... ortresses/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/240_mm_howitzer_M1
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Indian Kalvari (Scorpene) Submarines only have SUT 1 torpedoes.</summary>
<detail>India cancelled Black Shark deal due to corruption and can only rely on SUT-1 in inventory normally use by Shishmar. Modify submarine #108 mount with SUT-1 Torpedo.</detail>
<evidence>
https://thediplomat.com/2019/01/indias- ... torpedoes/
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 958741.cms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Kalvari_(S21)
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/ins- ... 171216.htm
</evidence>

[CV60]

Possible error in DB3000 Facility_997, 1000, 561 (AN/TPS-59(V)3. the radar is given a max range of 400nm in the database. According to "TM 2000-OD/2C, PRINCIPAL TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF U.S. MARINE CORPS COMMUNICATION-ELECTRONICS EQUIPMENT'. 2005. https://info.publicintelligence.net/USM ... ipment.pdf., the radar has the following max ranges against the following targets:

Max Range (airbreather (ABT)): 4-200 nm
Max Range (TBM tgt): 4-400 nm

So while the 400 nm range is not inaccurate for a TBM role, it is only 200 nm against airborne targets.

[Blast33]

ORIGINAL: trujillocorreo

Hello friends.
I propose the modification in the DB of the SAM S-300V family.
Let's see the following graph:



-S-300V1 / SA12A (entry into service 1983) "The development of the S-300V system was carried out in two stages. In the first stage, the system was created to combat aerodynamic targets, cruise and tactical ballistic missiles".
&#1048;&#1089;&#1090;&#1086;&#1095;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/S-300v4/ &#1042;&#1058;&#1057; «&#1041;&#1040;&#1057;&#1058;&#1048;&#1054;&#1053;» A.V.Karpenko
Use of TELAR 9A83 and TEL 9A85 vehicles and 9M83 "Gladiator" missile with a range of 75 km.

-S-300V2 / SA12B (Entry into service 1988) "In the second stage of work, the system was refined to ensure the fight against Pershing-1 type ballistic missiles, aeroballistic missiles and patrol jammers".
&#1048;&#1089;&#1090;&#1086;&#1095;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/S-300v4/ &#1042;&#1058;&#1057; «&#1041;&#1040;&#1057;&#1058;&#1048;&#1054;&#1053;» A.V.Karpenko
Introduction of the 9M82 "Giant" missile with a 100 km range, TELAR 9A82, TEL 9A84 vehicles and 9S19 "High Screen" radar.

-S-300V3 (Entry into service 1998) S-300V17V2 upgrade block.
"An updated S-300V system for the RF Armed Forces. NIEMI, without issuing special decrees of the Government of the Russian Federation, on its own initiative and in agreement with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, modernized the S- system. 300V ".
&#1048;&#1089;&#1090;&#1086;&#1095;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/S-300v4/ &#1042;&#1058;&#1057; «&#1041;&#1040;&#1057;&#1058;&#1048;&#1054;&#1053;» A.V.Karpenko
"Block upgrade with extended engagement range missiles, with a claimed doubling of range performance against aerial targets".
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Giant-Gladiator.html
Introduction of the 9M83M missiles with 150 km of range and 9M82M with 200 km of range.

-S-300VM. Proposal for a new system or deep modernization from the mid-1990s. Not adopted by the Russian Federation.
"On the basis of the S-300V air defense system, an air defense system was developed, which provides the ability to intercept ballistic missiles with a range of up to 2500 km, and the maximum range of destruction of aerodynamic targets was increased to 250 km ".
&#1048;&#1089;&#1090;&#1086;&#1095;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/S-300v4/ &#1042;&#1058;&#1057; «&#1041;&#1040;&#1057;&#1058;&#1048;&#1054;&#1053;» A.V.Karpenko
It offered deep digitization, LCD screens, better response times and simplification in the number and types of vehicles.

-S-300VM ANTEY 2500. SA-23. Early 2000 export version based on the S-300VM proposal. It only uses TELAR 9A83ME vehicles with four 9M83ME missiles and TEL 9A84ME with two 9M82ME missiles. Replacement of the FCR 9S32 radar by the 9S32ME with a greater range of 400 km. The range of the 9M82M missile is increased from 200 km to 250 km with the 9M82ME and that of the 9M83M is decreased from 150 km to 130 km in the 9M83ME.




-S-300VMD. Modernization block of the S-300VM that introduces the Giant missile with extended range 9M82MD (For domestic use) with a range of 400 km and the 9M82MDE (For export) with a range of 350 km.

S-300V4. (Entry into service 2015) Deep modernization, based on VM and VMD versions.
"Modernized S-300V system. This upgrade made it possible to double the range of improved systems compared to the basic ones. Modernization was carried out in accordance with TZ GRAU both at the expense of the state and at the expense of its own funds received from the sale of military equipment through military-technical cooperation in the implementation of contracts from OJSC "PK Concern" Antey "for the supply of" Tor "and S-300V systems. The performance characteristics of the S-300V are between 1.5 and 2.3 times higher than the capacities of the S-300V3 ".
&#1048;&#1089;&#1090;&#1086;&#1095;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/S-300v4/ &#1042;&#1058;&#1057; «&#1041;&#1040;&#1057;&#1058;&#1048;&#1054;&#1053;» A.V.Karpenko
Same structure and vehicles as the ANTEY 2500, but replacing the 9M82M missile with the 9M82MD with a range of 400 km and the 9M83ME with a range of 130 km, by the 9M83M with a 150 km range.

ANTEY 4000. Export version of the S-300V4 offered at ARMY 2020.
"It is reported, in particular, that the range of destruction of aerodynamic targets by the 9M83ME missiles has increased from 130 to 150 km, and 9M82MDE, from 350 to 380 km. The altitude of destruction of aerodynamic targets by the 9M82MDE missiles increased from 30 to 33 km.
"The ability to hit ballistic targets has been significantly expanded. The maximum velocity of warheads hitting ballistic targets has increased from 4,500 to 4,800 m / s. The destruction range of tactical missiles has increased from 30 to 45 km, and the altitude has increased from 25 to 27 km ".
https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?r ... 17&lang=RU

Typical configuration of an ANTEY 2500 / S-300V4 / ANTEY 4000 battalion:



http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Giant-Gladiator.html
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/antey-4000-s-300v4/
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/S-300v4/
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/S-300vm/
https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?r ... 17&lang=RU
https://en.topwar.ru/168997-zenitnaja-r ... raket.html
Modern Russian and Chinese Integrated Air Defence Systems The Nature of the Threat, Growth Trajectory and Western Options. Justin Bronk

Good research and some additions:
<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary> The maximum range missile 9M82MDE is not operational yet.</summary>
<detail>
Article 9 April 2020
SAM 9M82MV (9&#1052;82&#1052;&#1042; in Russian) after successful design and factory tests by our Ministry of Defense "is not noticed" and the S-300V4 air defense system was not introduced. But in the media there was information about the introduction of a similar missile defense system into the S-500 air defense system being developed. This is probably correct. But the reality is that the S-300V family of air defense systems, already deployed in the theater of operations (in the military districts), which include a specialized autonomous radar for detecting ballistic targets and ensuring their most effective defeat, as well as a successfully tested gas-dynamic missile, this missiles are not included. And in the developed S-500 air defense system, which has less capabilities for detecting ballistic targets, especially those separated in flight by the MRBM main unit, an air defense missile interception missile system is introduced, created, by the way, on the basis of technical solutions implemented in the C-300V4 air defense missile system.
What is it - a lack of understanding of the current situation or lack of initiative and negligence? And where is military science and its opinion on this issue?

The author is Alexander Luzan, Doctor of Technical Sciences, Laureate of the State Prize of the Russian Federation,retired lieutenant general, former chairman of the State Commission on
tests of the S-300VM air defense system - the predecessor of the S-300V4,ex-deputy commander (chief) of the Air Defense Forces of the Land Armament Troops - Chief Engineer of the Air Defense Forces of the Ground Forces

So intercepts above 35km of height is not possible and a max range of about 30 km againtst ballistic target, see picture from the same article.

</detail>
<evidence>https://translate.googleusercontent.com ... rtbbw1epfg
</evidence>

[pxl919092]

There are possible errors with 055/DF-100 from the recent DB updates. DBv487 still have the same issue.

For "#2834 Type 055 destroyer", number of channels for the SA-10 missile datalink is wrong. in DB487 it has a value of 1. In the cheaper and older 052D, the number of SA-10 channel is 24.

So now a 055 can only hit one aerial target at a time, while 052D can handle 24.

Also For "#3669 DF-100", the cruise attitude is 24000 ft AGL. I suppose it is a typo and mean 240,000 ft instead? This thing was flying at Mach 4.6 and Band1 Performance section states it has a ceiling of 1,850,000 feet.

[CV60]

Error in DB3K Facility_1499, 1500, 1348, 1030, 1114, 1113, 1116, 1117, 1118, 1347, 1119, 299, 1120, 1121, 1122 (SQUARE TIE/Type 352 radar). Database has it as a NATO "H" band radar. According to Jane's it is an I band. See below:

Source: Janes Radar and Electonic Warfare Systems, 2002-03, "Square Tie air and surface search radar", 02 July 2001
Square Tie air and surface search radar
Type
I-band (8 to 10 GHz) air and surface search radar.
Description
Square Tie is a small, lightweight, short-range, air and surface search radar that operates in the I-band.
The system's scanner is an elliptical paraboloid reflector illuminated by an overhung horn feed....