The Power of Inexperience / GreyJoy(A)-Rader(J)

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I did this in my game with Q-Ball.  He hang around Pearl for four days and really hammered the Allied fleet.  Each night, PT boats and small DD or CL/DD TFs sortied in various directions - usually close enough to return to port before daylight, but no always.  I got at least two surface engagements between CL/DD TFs and the KB.  I lost CL St. Louis in the process and did nothing but give Q-Ball some indigestion, but it was fun.  It's bad karma for the KB to put itself at risk like that as far as I am concerned.

Please, please pardon me for saying this, but for an experienced IJ player to pound a newb at Pearl for six or eight days at the start of a game is......well, I'll leave it at that.

[facetiousness=on] I do not know Canoerebel .. I mean when the IJ was not looking -- GreyJoy snuck up on Rader and landed in Northern Japan! .. and he has sort of over stayed his welcome [:D] [/facetiousness ]

Despite this all I am continually amazed from tehe abuses taken, and the sweetnees of the victory when this is said and done ..[;)]

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: crsutton

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I did this in my game with Q-Ball.  He hang around Pearl for four days and really hammered the Allied fleet.  Each night, PT boats and small DD or CL/DD TFs sortied in various directions - usually close enough to return to port before daylight, but no always.  I got at least two surface engagements between CL/DD TFs and the KB.  I lost CL St. Louis in the process and did nothing but give Q-Ball some indigestion, but it was fun.  It's bad karma for the KB to put itself at risk like that as far as I am concerned.

Please, please pardon me for saying this, but for an experienced IJ player to pound a newb at Pearl for six or eight days at the start of a game is......well, I'll leave it at that.

I have played the historical first day in both of my campaigns. But asked for a two day limit to the havoc at Pearl. That actually is plenty of time to wreck the American BB fleet. Sticking around for a week is total cheese in my book. Not to say that the Japanese player can't do it in the absence of a HR. However, it would put me of a mind to give no slack later on. Sort of sets the tone for the whole game.

I had no clue at the time of what I was doing in my game, but I slipped teh Lady Lex and Big E behind toward the Gilberts where very vulnerable amphib TF's were landing .. the Lady Lex took a torp --otherwise 3 maybe 4 amphib + escort TF were going to find the bottom of the ocean. As it is -- the discovery of the Lady Lex within striking distance of a pot of gold so to speak -- encouraged the KB to retrograde toward the Gilberts qucikly on day three ..[;)]

[EUBanana]

Not sure its even necessary to sink those old BBs, might be better to leave them with 700 days to fix. That way they are taking up yard space. By the time they are out of the yards what usefulness they may have once had will be almost nil.

A wounded enemy is better than a dead enemy and all.

[Canoerebel]

Unless you're going for auto victory.

[Miller]

Two days max attacking PH IMO, anymore is cheesy. Of course if GJ was not a noob at the time he would have realised the danager and sortied everything that could escape away from PH in small TFs.

[Canoerebel]

Yeah, and waited until the KB was out of sorties to vector in the two USN carriers.

[GreyJoy]

Well guys...too late i think [:'(]
 
Turn sent...few minutes and we'll have another two days of struggle over Sadogashima...lots of engineers will be arriving this turn by air transport (didn't work last time...don't know why...all my transports got resetted)
 
I fear a turn  of LRCAP battles...
 
40 british spitfires have been moved to Sadogashima...my angels[:)]

[String]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Well guys...too late i think [:'(]

Turn sent...few minutes and we'll have another two days of struggle over Sadogashima...lots of engineers will be arriving this turn by air transport (didn't work last time...don't know why...all my transports got resetted)

I fear a turn  of LRCAP battles...

40 british spitfires have been moved to Sadogashima...my angels[:)]

Did you get any AA in last turn?

[GreyJoy]

Not yet...the CD guns were destroyed while unloading.
This turn 2regiments should arrive with escort...finger crossed

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Please, please pardon me for saying this, but for an experienced IJ player to pound a newb at Pearl for six or eight days at the start of a game is......well, I'll leave it at that.

Yeah. I agree. It's total...well. Absolutely. [:D]

[EUBanana]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Yeah, and waited until the KB was out of sorties to vector in the two USN carriers.

[:D]

Allied win in 1941... even better than your AAR Canoerebel. [;)]

[HansBolter]

It was an innocent question about Pearl.

It wasn't my intent to set off a string of bash the Japanese opponent replies.

While I agree completely and a similar episode with an experienced Japanese opponent as a UV newbie is the reason I have refrained from PBEM play in this game, I already have too much of a reputation as a Japanese player basher for me to allow this spate of bashing to fall on my shoulders.

All I did was ask an innocent question about how PBEMers deal with a protracted Pearl strike. [8D]

[GreyJoy]

A good turn guys.
300 Engineers arrived at Sadogashima and 2 AA regiments (60 bofors and 60 90mm guns).
We achieved another solid 3-1 in A2A ratio.
No naval battles.
33 pilots KIA but we are grinding heavily the enemy

[Cap Mandrake]

60 x 90mm AA [X(]

Where would you put that many? Everyone on the island will be deaf in a week [:)]

[GreyJoy]

ahahah...no sorry, my mistake...60 bofors and 32 90 mm guns.... [8D]

[Grfin Zeppelin]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

60 x 90mm AA [X(]

Where would you put that many? Everyone on the island will be deaf in a week [:)]

Hahaha.

[GreyJoy]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 24, 44

Another CL goes beneath the waves....and still the Pogy!
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Sub attack near Toyama at 112,56

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Uruyuke
DD Suzunami
DD Akebono
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
SS Pogy



A night bombing attempt...we tried 50 planes at 20k feet...

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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 11
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 8



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 20


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged



Manpower hits 1
Fires 740

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Sadogashima at 114,55

Japanese Ships
SS I-170, hits 13

Allied Ships
DE Brackett, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Doneff
DE Dionne
DE Duffy





Then the "Angels" fly again...another turn of harsh fightings...wow....


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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 158 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 33
J7W1 Shinden x 17



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 15
Thunderbolt I x 23
Spitfire VIII x 23
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 77


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 8 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 185 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 54



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 10
Thunderbolt I x 17
Spitfire VIII x 23
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 68


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 148 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 7
Ki-83 x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 17



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 10
Thunderbolt I x 10
Spitfire VIII x 19
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 44


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 6 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 134 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 8
Ki-100-I Tony x 6



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 8
Thunderbolt I x 9
Spitfire VIII x 19
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 36


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses




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Afternoon Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 122 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 29
N1K1-J George x 6



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
Thunderbolt I x 22
Spitfire VIII x 19
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 72


Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 12 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed



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Afternoon Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 169 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 44 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 8
A7M2 Sam x 84



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
Thunderbolt I x 20
Spitfire VIII x 19
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 64


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed



After this kind of morning...in the afternoon more fightings....



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 137 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 13
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 7
Ki-100-I Tony x 1



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 11
Thunderbolt I x 18
Spitfire VIII x 16
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 60


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 7 destroyed
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 151 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 21



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 10
Thunderbolt I x 17
Spitfire VIII x 15
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 58


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt I: 4 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed



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Afternoon Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 158 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 22



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 9
Thunderbolt I x 6
Spitfire VIII x 12
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 42


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 6 destroyed


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida x 6



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 6
Thunderbolt I x 5
Spitfire VIII x 9
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 26


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

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