Fall Weiss II - WIE 14.0 - (Ready for Download)

[Taxman66]

Tje beauty of it is that it really doesn't change anything. All it is really is a renaming. If 1939 Germany infantry units have the exact same values, what does it matter if their Infantry Tech level is 1 (vanilla) or 2 (suggestion).

[crispy131313]

ORIGINAL: Taxman66

Tje beauty of it is that it really doesn't change anything. All it is really is a renaming. If 1939 Germany infantry units have the exact same values, what does it matter if their Infantry Tech level is 1 (vanilla) or 2 (suggestion).

Well there is a cost for an additional upgrade to an entire nation, it would make it even tougher on neutral's when DOW'd, USA would be forced to invest early in Infantry Weapons when right now it can be delayed a bit. These are just off the top of my head i'm sure there is more..

[Taxman66]

Everyone, including minors, but Russia would deploy at level 1

I do see that non Russian Infantry units would need a cost adjustment.

[dcrosson]

In the update can you please mod the Soviet AI to have a chance of starting a Turkish Straight Crisis.

[crispy131313]

ORIGINAL: dcrosson

In the update can you please mod the Soviet AI to have a chance of starting a Turkish Straight Crisis.

I will post a separate version where they will try this, will you please report how the Allied AI handles this? Truthfully the event was designed with PBEM in mind, as I wasn’t sure how the USSR would handle this. It they do OK I will incorporate the possibility into the main version.

[dhucul2011]

Great work Crispy.

Looking forward to it.

Have you considered making Free France and British Empire separate minor nations with active units?

I did in my personal MOD and it works well and adds lots of flavour. The slightly different coloured units also look cool as they arrive mostly in Egypt.

I have Indian, Australian, New Zealand and South African units that arrive by script for historical events.

I have also Free French units by script at various times.

[crispy131313]

I have instances where British Empire units arrive in Canada or the Middle East under their own Command (as UK minors) however this is only in response to either Middle East Command (Egypt) being defeated or a successful Sealion. As for the Free French, my only concern would be if they were to capture a capital or key resource it would not feel right, this is a similar reason Romania had been reverted to an Axis minor, while I once had them as an Axis minor Major.

[ArmouredLion]

Very, sweet, sir. I love your mod and I'm looking forward to the new changes... if you want to scrap our game and play this version for playtesting I'm very fine with that... especially as it's another loss... I'm thinking of renaming myself tinfoil kitten.

[steevodeevo]

I'm well into a campaign using v20 and this mod is so deep and rich in events and such it is a great pleasure to play. It plays quite differently to vanilla, especially if you use many of the political and military decisions to shape history .. and the future. I personally love the 3 levels of unit size, this adds flexibility to your military strategy.

Are there any further releases planned? I believe you are now using the World at War engine to move over your mod, and despite asking before I am never sure which base game I should run your mod from Crispy :/

[crispy131313]

ORIGINAL: steevodeevo

I'm well into a campaign using v20 and this mod is so deep and rich in events and such it is a great pleasure to play. It plays quite differently to vanilla, especially if you use many of the political and military decisions to shape history .. and the future. I personally love the 3 levels of unit size, this adds flexibility to your military strategy.

Are there any further releases planned? I believe you are now using the World at War engine to move over your mod, and despite asking before I am never sure which base game I should run your mod from Crispy :/

Hi Steve, thanks for the kind feedback. The mod is primarily based on the WiE game, and there has been lots of updates since v20 which are only found with the WiE version. The mod name was changed to Fall Weiss II - Western Theater as well to differentiate from the world version which is still considered a work in progress.

I am very close to releasing a very large update, as the last few pages of this thread discuss. I would suggest waiting the short time between now and release if you intend on starting a new game.

[steevodeevo]

ORIGINAL: crispy131313

ORIGINAL: steevodeevo

I'm well into a campaign using v20 and this mod is so deep and rich in events and such it is a great pleasure to play. It plays quite differently to vanilla, especially if you use many of the political and military decisions to shape history .. and the future. I personally love the 3 levels of unit size, this adds flexibility to your military strategy.

Are there any further releases planned? I believe you are now using the World at War engine to move over your mod, and despite asking before I am never sure which base game I should run your mod from Crispy :/

Hi Steve, thanks for the kind feedback. The mod is primarily based on the WiE game, and there has been lots of updates since v20 which are only found with the WiE version. The mod name was changed to Fall Weiss II - Western Theater as well to differentiate from the world version which is still considered a work in progress.

I am very close to releasing a very large update, as the last few pages of this thread discuss. I would suggest waiting the short time between now and release if you intend on starting a new game.

awesome thanks. I will wait

[gdpsnake1979]

I believe it used to be the case that anti-tank research affected the hard attack values of infantry units. Then that vanished? I would like to see it returned. The ATR was the main weapon of all countries in the early years (The Russian ATR probably the best but a huge beast to lug around so difficult to use) and somewhat effective against the early light armor. Anti tank mines were improved then anti tank guns took over 40-43 ish through larger caliber and better ammo. But then units began deploying the Bazooka, panzerfaust, Molotov and the Piat. This was a big leap and could really take out even big armor especially with knocking out mobility.
I guess my point is: anti-tank research should affect hard attack values of infantry and even to some extent: armor (representing APCR and sabot type rounds). Infantry research should also improve armor soft defense values representing the later use of anti-personnel devices affixed to tanks. Artillery research should go higher than '1' to represent the increased calibers of later guns perhaps even improve/allow the production of SPA units (currently missing save for the rocket artillery.) Naval research should be higher than '1' as well and the major nations (not Russia) should begin at '1' while minors begin at '0' or some other arrangement to show the qualitative and training differences between major powers. The technology of the Bismark with 15 inch guns was easily better than most with the double hull design and superior 15" design. Improvements in radar, torpedoes, etc. can then make the naval war more interesting (especially in the world at war version where IJN might start at '2' but limit at '3' while USA might start at 1 and go to '4')
Just some thoughts.
I also disagree with the reduction in the build limits for Germany divisions. Make them new SS units - most started as Infantry then upgraded to PZG then to Panzer. SS units should also have a large ZOC against partisan units. Soviet armor still (should) start at research '1' - hit the morale values early to represent the doctrinal advantages used to defeat those KV, T-34 models that the early Panzers really couldn't deal with.

[crispy131313]

ORIGINAL: gdpsnake1979

I believe it used to be the case that anti-tank research affected the hard attack values of infantry units. Then that vanished? I would like to see it returned. The ATR was the main weapon of all countries in the early years (The Russian ATR probably the best but a huge beast to lug around so difficult to use) and somewhat effective against the early light armor. Anti tank mines were improved then anti tank guns took over 40-43 ish through larger caliber and better ammo. But then units began deploying the Bazooka, panzerfaust, Molotov and the Piat. This was a big leap and could really take out even big armor especially with knocking out mobility.
I guess my point is: anti-tank research should affect hard attack values of infantry and even to some extent: armor (representing APCR and sabot type rounds). Infantry research should also improve armor soft defense values representing the later use of anti-personnel devices affixed to tanks. Artillery research should go higher than '1' to represent the increased calibers of later guns perhaps even improve/allow the production of SPA units (currently missing save for the rocket artillery.) Naval research should be higher than '1' as well and the major nations (not Russia) should begin at '1' while minors begin at '0' or some other arrangement to show the qualitative and training differences between major powers. The technology of the Bismark with 15 inch guns was easily better than most with the double hull design and superior 15" design. Improvements in radar, torpedoes, etc. can then make the naval war more interesting (especially in the world at war version where IJN might start at '2' but limit at '3' while USA might start at 1 and go to '4')
Just some thoughts.
I also disagree with the reduction in the build limits for Germany divisions. Make them new SS units - most started as Infantry then upgraded to PZG then to Panzer. SS units should also have a large ZOC against partisan units. Soviet armor still (should) start at research '1' - hit the morale values early to represent the doctrinal advantages used to defeat those KV, T-34 models that the early Panzers really couldn't deal with.

There are issues with implementing Anti-tank research for infantry units, there are no more upgrade slots available for one, also it would just be another "must" research for the USSR in the early game and would reduce the Soviets ability to try different research strategies after Infantry/Tank Weapons.

To touch on some of the other comments, in the new version Naval Warfare is able to be researched to level III, and USSR does begin with Tank Warfare Level I (Max III). To represent the new T-34s the Soviets are currently receiving 2 Tank Corps in 1941 that are placed on the map at 12 strength, in my most recent PBEM match these are proving to be strong enough to destroy a German Panzer Corps in a counter offensive, so the rather limited at the time but capable tanks are representing themselves well.

I don't intend to make any changes to assist Germany with anti-partisan activities, in fact I have left partisans exactly the same as the vanilla version so that players can pick up and play a game that feels familiar.

I agree that Bismarck could be represented as a stronger Battleship then currently and will likely amend the deployment strength to 11, similar to some other scripted naval ships that are commissioned mid war via event.

Sorry if I missed some things, it is quite a wall of text.

[BPINisBACK]

ORIGINAL: crispy131313
To touch on some of the other comments, in the new version Naval Warfare is able to be researched to level III, and USSR does begin with Tank Warfare Level I (Max III). To represent the new T-34s the Soviets are currently receiving 2 Tank Corps in 1941 that are placed on the map at 12 strength, in my most recent PBEM match these are proving to be strong enough to destroy a German Panzer Corps in a counter offensive, so the rather limited at the time but capable tanks are representing themselves well.

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[GTMOON51]

Hi

I am having trouble starting your Mod

It shows up in the Mods but is Greyed out

Any Ideas

Gary

[crispy131313]

Another update. I am complete on everything I wanted to change, I now just need to update based on the latest developer's patch. Release will be soon (I hope).

Previous announced changes since 2.0:

- USSR begins with Anti-Tank I
- Removed USSR Anti-Tank Chit
- Tank Divisions will have 10% Demoralization attack value (increased from 0%)
- Fixed German and Soviet NM bonus/penalty upon beginning of Barbarossa
- Amended Anti-Tank base soft/hard attack value to 1.5 (from 1)
- Amended Anti-Tank soft/hard attack value increments from Anti-Tank Research from 1 per level to 0.5 per level
- Increased USA mobilization from Pearl Harbor from 15-20% to 25%-30%
- Added British Empire Reinforcements in Canada upon successful Sealion (Axis control Southern Britain)
- Added scripts for the British Empire Reinforcements to support US attempt to liberate UK
- New UK Decision Event for Operation Sledgehammer or Operation Overlord (will only fire if conditions are met early 43')
- Some amendments to NM events on the Eastern Front around the end of 41'
- Added popup for Sweden (leans to Axis) after receiving military aircraft from Italy
- Fixed Vichy France Joins Axis text
- Variable Decision Event for Vichy France to join the Axis will only occur if UK does not recognize Vichy France
- Removed German chit in Advanced Tanks
- Reduced German Garrisons build limits by 2
- Reduced German Infantry Corps build limits by 1
- Reduced German Infantry Division build limits by 4
- Increased German Infantry Army build limits by 1
- UK will no longer have the opportunity to send Lease Lease to UK if the Turkish Straits were occupied by USSR
- New German Morale penalty to occur once the Allies have established themselves in France, prior to taking Paris
- New German Decision Event to prepare for Soviet winter 42'
- If Moscow is occupied the USSR will transfer additional forces from Siberia
- If Turkey joins the Axis via Turkish Strait Crisis, the USSR will deploy 2 Infantry Corps and 1 Mountain Division near the Turkish border in the Caucasus
- The Maikop Oilfield will be permanently destroyed upon Axis capture
- Italian NM will be penalized by about 15% of starting value upon war entry, to slowly recover over 16 turns After French surrender (updated)
- Soviet NM will be penalized by about 20% of starting value upon war entry, to slowly recover over the first 10 turns of 1942
- Increased Axis oil shortages supply events maximum variable by 1 for effected resources
- Shock Armies have De-entrenchment value of 2
- Soviet Infantry Divisions, Mechanized Divisions, Infantry Corps and Infantry Armies now have the same base stats and upgrades as all other Majors
- Italian Infantry Armies now have the same base stats and upgrades as all other Majors
- USSR Infantry Weapons now max level II
- USSR Infantry Weapons starting value reverted to Level 0
- Mechanized Corps, Tank Corps, Tank Armies, Fighters, Maritime Bombers and Strategic Bombers now have 2 strikes/intercept as base stat
- Overhauled the "Warfare" research categories to remove double strike/intercept automatic upgrade, and included new category Ballistic Warfare.
- Infantry Warfare, Armoured Warfare, Aerial Warfare, Naval Warfare, Ballistic Warfare now increases only the morale bonus of the applicable units by 5% per level. Each category can reach maximum level III.
- Amended the majors warfare categories upon game start to represent each majors strength (i.e. Germany has Armoured Warfare II, Naval Warfare 0, UK has Armoured Warfare 0, Naval Warfare II)
- Added a half strength French Heavy Artillery unit behind the Maginot Line
- New Research category - Tank Production; which increases the build limit of Tank Divisions and Tank Corps by 1 per level
- New Research category - Aircraft Production; which increases the build limit of Fighters and Medium Bombers by 1 per level
- Amended/updated the research category description text in game
- Amended AI research scripts
- Yugoslavia will only have a 50% chance of joining the Axis if surrounded by Axis countries (which is a result of Greece joining the Axis)

NEW
- Increased Upgrade Cost of USSR Infantry by 15%
- Amended AI Middle East Unit slightly
- Reduced USSR Mobilization Penalty of France banning the Communist Party to 2-3%
- Amended new Warfare research categories to 75-125 MPP based on importance
- Added a small/moderate NM bonus to USSR units in and adjacent to Leningrad year round if supplies are shipped via decision
- Added Insignia to Finland Decision Event Text
- Soviet HQ and 1st Fighters are now in the Production Que to avoid being disbanded for early MPP
- Fixed a scenario where Portuguese imports to Germany was not working
- Amended Finnish Anti-Tank Decision event so that Finland will receive 1 full strength Anti-Tank rather then 2 half strength
- Added USSR NM helper (1943-44)
- UK (AI) to receive a morale boost after successful D-Day
- Added some limited Allied AI unit scripts if they are far behind objectives in 1944 based on alignment of Moscow, Stalingrad, London and Paris
- Due to lower Infantry Build Limits, and to assist with the German defensive end game, a half strength Infantry Corps at Berlin will deploy anytime after 1943 when the following cities are liberated/held by the Allies - Moscow, Paris, Brussels, Smolensk, Kiev, Riga, Odessa.

[crispy131313]

ORIGINAL: GTMOON51

Hi

I am having trouble starting your Mod

It shows up in the Mods but is Greyed out

Any Ideas

Gary

Make sure it is in the folder with the other mods and not in the Matrix folder?

[GTMOON51]

Crispy

This is where it is

C:\Users\glavi\OneDrive\Documents\My Games\Strategic Command WWII - War in Europe\Mods\FallWeissDLC\_Fall Weiss II - 20

Is this Correct?

Gary

[crispy131313]

If your downloading the dropbox version, it should go here on your comp:

C:\Users\glavi\OneDrive\Documents\My Games\Strategic Command WWII - War in Europe\Campaigns

[GTMOON51]

Dropbox version here

C:\Users\glavi\OneDrive\Documents\My Games\Strategic Command WWII - War in Europe\Campaigns\FallWeissDLC\_Fall Weiss II - 20

Now its not listed in mods at all