Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!!

[Andy Mac]

My guess 33rd Div railed in in strat mode....
 
 
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Ground combat at Charters Towers (91,145)
 
Allied Shock attack
 
Attacking force 20341 troops, 216 guns, 1571 vehicles, Assault Value = 1072
 
Defending force 22356 troops, 197 guns, 121 vehicles, Assault Value = 780
 
Allied adjusted assault: 960
 
Japanese adjusted defense: 464
 
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)
 
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      2757 casualties reported
         Squads: 7 destroyed, 139 disabled
         Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 117 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      358 casualties reported
         Squads: 2 destroyed, 72 disabled
         Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 192 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
      Vehicles lost 201 (36 destroyed, 165 disabled)
 
 
Assaulting units:
    2nd Recce Battalion
    10th Light Horse Battalion
    255th Armoured Brigade
    2/4th Armoured Regiment
    2/8th Armoured Regiment
    3rd Australian Brigade
    1st Motor Brigade
    3rd Motor Brigade
    4th Aus Cav Brigade
    3rd Army Tank Brigade
    7th Armoured Brigade
    2nd Australian Army
    109th Tank Attack Regiment
    2nd Australian Hvy AA Regiment
    48th Light AA Regiment
 
Defending units:
    1st Infantry Regiment
    41st Naval Guard Unit
    33rd Division
    5th Recon Regiment
    15th/C Division
 
 
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[Andy Mac]

Well a very good turn for me
 
My Armour Captured Charter Towers ejecting the Japanese
 
It cost me a lot as my bombers went in unescorted but then this whole campaign has cost me.
 
In other news my invasion force heading for the line islands did its job albeit I am worried about the lack of damage to the AF
 
I am worried about what I should do next.
 
I have a force of at least 2 japanese Divs trapped at Townsville and a horde of SBD's and TBM's ready to come in to deal with transports as they arrive to evac.
 
Effectively he will need to risk KB to pull out the troops and with Charter Towers in my hands thats a difficult operation.
 
PZB is not happy we both think we should have redone the turn where he misunderstood strat movement rather than giving him a 5 day head start before I followed up but thats with 20:20 hindsight of how important a relativelly unimportant screwup was at the time 
 
Being honest it never occured to me to offer and had he asked I would have said yes as it was an insignificant turn. (Neither of us realsised it would be as significant as it has turned out to be0
 
However now I have lost a lot of aircraft including months production of P38's Beaufighters and irreplaceable bombers not to mention pilots and limited devices to get where I am and the payoff is a trapped force that he will have to pay to evac.
 
Not sure what to do PZB has not asked me for anything and knowing him I doubt he will ask for any favours so its on me to offer something if I am willing and I am not sure if I am or not.
 
It was a genuine mistake of that I am sure but would he really have went straight for an evac ?? - everything in my gut tells me he was planning on a delaying action somewhere until he saw how fast my Armour was moving inland and that I wasnt going to be deterred by air power but thats conjecture as I was trying to decieve deliberately holding my armour back to slow speed.
 
I have lost lots of P38's Beaufighters and valuable bombers to get this far but I dont want an honourable opponent feeling screwed either - not sure what to do.
 
need to think about it
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 02, 42
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Submarine attack near Eureka  at 215,68
 
Japanese Ships
      SS I-35
 
Allied Ships
      TK Elsa, Torpedo hits 2,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
 
 
 
TK Elsa is sighted by SS I-35
SS I-35 launches 6 torpedoes at TK Elsa
 
 
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ASW attack near Nauru Island  at 127,127
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Bisaku Maru
 
Allied Ships
      SS Thresher
 
 
 
SS Thresher is sighted by escort
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53
 
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
 
Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Katha , at 61,43
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 26
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 3rd War Area , at 80,54
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 30000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Katha , at 61,43
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 30
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      30 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 25000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
 
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
 
Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 2
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      11 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 21000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 173,128
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 7
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 60
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
 
 
 
CAP engaged:
VF-2 with F4F-4 Wildcat (8 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
VF-8 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 21000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VF-3 with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      16 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 20000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 18000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 64th Chinese Corps, at 72,55 (Nanning)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 86th Chinese Corps, at 80,54
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
      Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 9
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-21-IIa Sally: 7 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      138 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 37th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 86th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 37th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 86th Chinese Corps ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Hengyang , at 80,53
 
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
 
Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       2 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Katha , at 61,43
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 34
      Ki-21-Ic Sally x 27
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed on ground
      P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed on ground
 
 
 
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      27 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet *
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 10th Light Horse Battalion, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 69
      Ki-49-Ia Helen x 18
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Beaufighter Ic x 7
      P-38F Lightning x 1
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 destroyed, 16 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Beaufighter Ic: 2 destroyed
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      17 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Vehicles lost 12 (0 destroyed, 12 disabled)
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      17 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
No.30 Sqn RAAF with Beaufighter Ic (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 21500
      Raid is overhead
No.31 Sqn RAAF with Beaufighter Ic (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 21500
      Raid is overhead
8th FG/80th FS with P-38F Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 27000
      Raid is overhead
 
Also attacking 255th Armoured Brigade ...
Also attacking 10th Light Horse Battalion ...
Also attacking 255th Armoured Brigade ...
Also attacking 10th Light Horse Battalion ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment, at 80,54
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-Ic Sally x 24
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
      Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-21-Ic Sally: 11 damaged
      Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      56 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
      Guns lost 10 (0 destroyed, 10 disabled)
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      24 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      23 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese/C Corps ...
Also attacking 10th Construction Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment ...
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment ...
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese/C Corps ...
Also attacking 10th Construction Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment ...
Also attacking 53rd Chinese Corps ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Katha , at 61,43
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-IIa Sally x 67
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Hurricane IIc Trop: 8 destroyed on ground
      P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
 
 
 
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 23
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      31 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet *
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      36 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet *
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
 
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 2
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Albacore I x 13
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
      SBD-3 Dauntless x 119
      TBF-1 Avenger x 57
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground
 
Allied aircraft losses
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
      SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      14 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 12
Port hits 1
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      16 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 2000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 4000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
               Port Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       7 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 11000 feet
       3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
               Port Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 3000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      12 x Albacore I bombing from 2000 feet
               Port Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 4000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       1 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 3000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
      10 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       1 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 3000 feet
               Port Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
               Port Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       1 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 2000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       1 x Albacore I bombing from 4000 feet
               Port Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 3000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      12 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 4000 feet
               Port Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
               Port Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
       4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
               Airfield Attack:  1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 Det A with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 49
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-25C Mitchell x 9
      Hudson III (LR) x 22
      Hudson III (LR) x 6
      B-26B Marauder x 10
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
      Hudson III (LR): 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
      Hudson III (LR): 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
      B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      59 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
      Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      12 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       4 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       8 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
Chitose Ku S-1 Det with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Yamada Det S-2 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 25000
      Raid is overhead
Kawai Det  with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      6 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Shoho-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Taiyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Unyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Chuyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 25000
      Raid is overhead
 
Also attacking 15th/C Division ...
Also attacking 5th Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 29
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Beaufort V x 12
      A-29 Hudson x 5
      B-18A Bolo x 9
      B-25B Mitchell x 3
      B-25C Mitchell x 19
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Beaufort V: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
      A-29 Hudson: 3 damaged
      B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
      B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      67 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      10 x Beaufort V bombing from 15000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-25B Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       2 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       5 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
Chitose Ku S-1 Det with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Yamada Det S-2 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 25000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
Kawai Det  with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Shoho-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Taiyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Unyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Chuyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 25000
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 1st Infantry Regiment, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 4
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-25C Mitchell x 3
      B-25C Mitchell x 6
      B-26 Marauder x 6
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged
      B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
      B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      57 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
      Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
      Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
Kawai Det  with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000
      Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
 
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 15th/C Division ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Charters Towers , at 91,145
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Buffalo I x 3
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x Buffalo I sweeping at 23000 feet *
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 41st Naval Guard Unit, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-17D Fortress x 8
      B-17E Fortress x 38
      B-17F Fortress x 6
      LB-30 Liberator x 3
      B-24D Liberator x 15
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      307 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      15 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       8 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 15th/C Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-17E Fortress x 8
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      12 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-17F Fortress x 6
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      29 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-18A Bolo x 16
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-18A Bolo: 6 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      51 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      10 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-26 Marauder x 6
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      18 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-24D Liberator x 6
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
               Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-25C Mitchell x 6
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 15000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38F Lightning x 8
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 27000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Charters Towers , at 91,145
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38F Lightning x 5
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 27000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Charters Towers , at 91,145
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38E Lightning x 6
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 27000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 4th Aus Cav Brigade, at 91,145 (Charters Towers)
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      G4M1 Betty x 8
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      6 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Vehicles lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 173,128
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 31
      G3M2 Nell x 27
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 52
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
      G3M2 Nell: 19 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
      BB South Dakota
      CV Enterprise
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       1 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
               Naval Attack:  1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
 
CAP engaged:
VF-2 with F4F-4 Wildcat (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      10 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
      9 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-3 with F4F-4 Wildcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      2 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
      5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F4F-4 Wildcat (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 21000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 19000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
      13 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 11000
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
      3 planes vectored on to bombers
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Charters Towers , at 91,145
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Buffalo I x 9
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Buffalo I sweeping at 23000 feet *
 
 
 
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Sub attack near Nauru Island  at 127,127
 
Japanese Ships
      xAK Daifuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1,  heavy damage
      xAK Kuraido Maru
      xAK Kirisima Maru
      xAKL Tamaki Maru
      PB Bisaku Maru
 
Allied Ships
      SS Thresher
 
 
 
SS Thresher launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Daifuku Maru
Thresher diving deep ....
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Bisaku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Ground combat at Charters Towers (91,145)
 
Allied Shock attack
 
Attacking force 20106 troops, 234 guns, 1591 vehicles, Assault Value = 1224
 
Defending force 19992 troops, 197 guns, 121 vehicles, Assault Value = 626
 
Allied adjusted assault: 948
 
Japanese adjusted defense: 187
 
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)
 
Allied forces CAPTURE Charters Towers !!!
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      5769 casualties reported
         Squads: 246 destroyed, 32 disabled
         Non Combat: 295 destroyed, 25 disabled
         Engineers: 45 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 35 (35 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Vehicles lost 120 (120 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Units retreated 5
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      699 casualties reported
         Squads: 9 destroyed, 35 disabled
         Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 103 disabled
         Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
      Vehicles lost 125 (12 destroyed, 113 disabled)
 
 
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
 
Assaulting units:
    1st Motor Brigade
    2/7th Armoured Regiment
    3rd Australian Brigade
    2/9th Armoured Regiment
    10th Light Horse Battalion
    2/4th Armoured Regiment
    2/11th Armoured Car Battalion
    3rd Army Tank Brigade
    2/8th Armoured Regiment
    4th Aus Cav Brigade
    2/5th Armoured Regiment
    2/10th Armoured Regiment
    2/6th Armoured Regiment
    2nd Recce Battalion
    255th Armoured Brigade
    3rd Motor Brigade
    7th Armoured Brigade
    109th Tank Attack Regiment
    2nd Australian Army
    2nd Australian Hvy AA Regiment
    48th Light AA Regiment
 
Defending units:
    41st Naval Guard Unit
    1st Infantry Regiment
    5th Recon Regiment
    33rd Division
    15th/C Division

[Andy Mac]

The error re strat move has really left a sour taste on what has otherwise been the first victorious allied campaign.
 
Going to sleep on it before I do anything

[duckenf]

I wouldn't suggest any roll-backs or do-overs. First, stuff happens -- to him, to you. You both agreed (and you didn't have to) a remedy at the time and now it is much later. Second, he now knows the extent of your commitment to that offensive, how fast your armour can move, etc. That's a genie you can't put back in the bottle. Just attribute the whole thing to the Japanese being at the far-reach of their C&C, logistics and comm lines. He was the one who tried to strat move 50,000 troops in one day out of a hex that was about to be under attack. Consider it logistic/comm/C&C overloand and play on. But making unsolicited roll-back offers is being a bit too generous.

[Nemo121]

Sh!t happens. He'll learn from it, you'll learn from it. Going back and erasing every mistake one makes isn't the way to learn.

He made a mistake, he's paying for it. That's the nature of the game.

[Alfred]

I too vote for not offering anything unsolicited to your opponent. He is an experienced opponent who chose to expand in Australia.

If you allow him to escape this time then what happens the next time he makes a poor choice - another get out of gaol card to rescue him from poor play again? With hindsight I bet there are choices you made previously which you came to regret. Were you the receipient of such generosity? The magnitude of the error is an irrelevant consideration.

Think about this point. You are voluntarily restricting your Burma offensive due to historical reasons (in as much how they impact upon logistics) even though the game engine would allow you to proceed with the initial plan. On what basis do you think that there was the rolling stock available in northern Queensland to move 50000 enemy troops plus all of their equipment in a matter of days.


Alfred

[duckenf]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

Think about this point. You are voluntarily restricting your Burma offensive due to historical reasons (in as much how they impact upon logistics) even though the game engine would allow you to proceed with the initial plan. On what basis do you think that there was the rolling stock available in northern Queensland to move 50000 enemy troops plus all of their equipment in a matter of days.

I agree with this entirely. What are the chances of there even being this amount of rail stock available to Australia, let alone to Japan in the midst of an invasion of far-away enemy territory? It was a gamey attempt and it failed -- so why should he be rewarded?

[pat.casey]

I also would not offer a do-over. You won fair and square. You should own it and so should your opponent.

[Central Blue]

If I understand this correctly: Starting a strat move with the enemy that close is not a move I would make playing against the AI unless I was willing to have my troops caught boarding trains rather than in combat posture. If there was a covering force, it seems to have been insufficient.

[Andy Mac]

I offered to stand down for a few days John refused basically saying crap happens so we go on

[Andy Mac]

Still waiting on the turn worried about the 50+ raid from Christmas Island says he has built it up a lot may be a tough fight

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I offered to stand down for a few days John refused basically saying crap happens so we go on

Plus he can airlift some fragments out and rebuild these units. He has a pretty good lead in this game and choose to go for the gut in OZ. Call it "victory disease". Now it is payback time.

[Andy Mac]

I got the turn earlier heavy heavy casualties I lost about 50 aircraft but CT fell its to damaged for aircraft so he may get away anyway

[aprezto]

Andy;

He's invading NZ against me and this latest turn didn't go so well as far as game dynamics goes: KB did not launch against 2 SCTFs I had within range, and one of the SCTFs managed to bypass guardian SCTFs and hit his invasion forces.

I don't know if the double-whammy has exentuated his 'disappointment'.

Sorry but I wont endevour to stuff up the defence of my homeland to calm him down [:D]

[khyberbill]

He's invading NZ against me and this latest turn didn't go so well as far as game dynamics goes:

Are you playing with the latest Beta Patch?

[Andy Mac]

Wobb you NEED to AAR that one I would love to know how you are getting on in defending NZ !!!

[aprezto]

Hi Khyber - no actually. Pardon my ignorance, is there something in there about such stuff?

Andy, hmm maybe... it will be exciting. I have no idea how much he's bought as far as ground pounders go, although enough that he's invaded both North and South at the same time. And he has enough naval metal in the cook strait to affect compasses in Wellington!

[khyberbill]

Hi Khyber - no actually. Pardon my ignorance, is there something in there about such stuff?

My opponent has invaded New Zealand and the goodies didnt arrive (about 3 1/2 divisions in Aden and more devices) that were supposed to show. The next patch is supposed to fix this. Our game has slowed considerably while waiting for the patch. Nelson has only invaded the North Island in our game. I bugged out of Grinsberg (SP?) before I could get an accurate count on what he has brought but at least a division plus support. Prior to the invasion a rampaging KB picked off a few convoys bringing troops from the West Coast to the area so things are slim on the ground.

[Andy Mac]

The beta patch should fix that

[aprezto]

deleted due to stupidity (mine)